Covid Booster Vaccination – Any post shot effects?

MX1825 wrote:

I think I read that the NFL has postponed 3 games now till Tuesday.

Yes that is correct. As of my previous post, they had not postponed any games.

The Raiders-Browns game moved to Monday evening, while the Seahawks-Rams and the WFT-Eagles games were both moved to Tuesday evening.

The NFL recently changes its protocol too. Vaccinated players can exit the COVID list of they test negative twice in a 24 hour span and are asymptomatic now. I think the idea behind that is to potentially allow more players to return to the roster quickly if they are feeling fine and test negative.

DeRangedFishinguy wrote:

But was that your first time with covid?

I’m wondering if someone who had previously had Covid and then vax’d has got Covid again?

No. May, 2020

I figured after letting the Chinese implant me with their chip (vaccine 1) and the Russians with their chip (vaccine 2)…I shouldn’t discriminate against the Iranians with their chips (Booster).

…and people wonder why there’s a chip shortage for vehicles and other electronics. Open your eyes! It’s not a coincidence that a chip shortage + millions of “vaccines” happened all at once!!!!!

Transmission Risk in SARS-CoV-2–Infected, Fully Vaccinated Individuals: Real-World Data

Those who develop COVID-19 despite being fully vaccinated are considerably less infectious for contact persons, who in turn are protected from infection if vaccinated.

Here’s the link to the summary of the paper:

https://www.jwatch.org/na54386/2021/12/15/transmission-risk-sars-cov-2-infected-fully-vaccinated?query=topic_respinf&jwd=000012065536&jspc=

That is funny, but the scary part is there are many people (maybe some on this site) that really believe that crap, and also the space laser that starts fires in CA.

buckybadger wrote:

I figured after letting the Chinese implant me with their chip (vaccine 1) and the Russians with their chip (vaccine 2)…I shouldn’t discriminate against the Iranians with their chips (Booster).

…and people wonder why there’s a chip shortage for vehicles and other electronics. Open your eyes! It’s not a coincidence that a chip shortage + millions of “vaccines” happened all at once!!!!!

Headline on Kare 11 today:
Live updates: MDH reports 45 new deaths and 3,397 new cases

Second paragraph of article:
The MDH says one death occurred in November, while the other 44 deaths happened this month.

Anyone not see a problem here?
https://www.kare11.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/live-updates-mdh-reports-45-new-deaths-3397-new-cases/89-d7969dd5-8ab6-4622-bf81-9da337e1412b

I had previously said that all evidence points toward omicron being less severe. Apparently that is not true. Some evidence does support that theory and now some does not.

Also, a big FYI.. on the omicron variant and prior infection immunity and two dose vaccination.

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/12/uncertainty-swirls-around-omicron-covid-19-severity

The group also found that the risk of reinfection with Omicron is 5.4 times greater than with Delta, putting protection from earlier infection as low as 19%. They also estimate that Omicron cases doubled every 2 day up to Dec 11 and that Omicron’s reproduction number was above 3 during the same period.

They estimated vaccine effectiveness after two doses at 0% to 20%, and effectiveness after a booster dose at 55% to 80%.

biggill wrote:

The group also found that the risk of reinfection with Omicron is 5.4 times greater than with Delta, putting protection from earlier infection as low as 19%. They also estimate that Omicron cases doubled every 2 day up to Dec 11 and that Omicron’s reproduction number was above 3 during the same period.

They estimated vaccine effectiveness after two doses at 0% to 20%, and effectiveness after a booster dose at 55% to 80%.

This is weird to. There has to be a correlation of time vs efficacy. So someone that just received the jab could be fine but someone that rushed out to get the first poke would have less efficacy. There isn’t a one size fits all here so we shouldn’t treat it as such. What else is weird (among a ton of stuff) is the fact that a lot of articles state that you need the booster but a paragraph down states they need more time to determine the severity of the variant. It is all very contradicting and has been since the beginning.

beardly wrote:

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The group also found that the risk of reinfection with Omicron is 5.4 times greater than with Delta, putting protection from earlier infection as low as 19%. They also estimate that Omicron cases doubled every 2 day up to Dec 11 and that Omicron’s reproduction number was above 3 during the same period.

They estimated vaccine effectiveness after two doses at 0% to 20%, and effectiveness after a booster dose at 55% to 80%.

This is weird to. There has to be a correlation of time vs efficacy. So someone that just received the jab could be fine but someone that rushed out to get the first poke would have less efficacy. There isn’t a one size fits all here so we shouldn’t treat it as such. What else is weird (among a ton of stuff) is the fact that a lot of articles state that you need the booster but a paragraph down states they need more time to determine the severity of the variant. It is all very contradicting and has been since the beginning.

Especially if you track how far off Cidrap and the Imperial College’s models have been throughout the pandemic.

beardly wrote:

This is weird to. There has to be a correlation of time vs efficacy. So someone that just received the jab could be fine but someone that rushed out to get the first poke would have less efficacy. There isn’t a one size fits all here so we shouldn’t treat it as such. What else is weird (among a ton of stuff) is the fact that a lot of articles state that you need the booster but a paragraph down states they need more time to determine the severity of the variant. It is all very contradicting and has been since the beginning.

Its been cited several times that the efficacy of the vaccines drops significantly after 6 months post second dose. I posted some of the links in one of the similar threads a while back.
All 3 dropped significantly.

CIDRAP hasn’t had any models that I’m aware of. Osterholm has always said that all models are wrong. He’s smack talked the IHME models from the beginning.

I think the immunity difference is in the type of immune cells that are activated at different times. I’m not gonna pretend I know how this works but I believe if you’ve had a recent infection or vaccination the specific type immune cells are still active in your body therefore it’s more prepared to fight the virus off immediately. These will wane and disappear over time. Something to that effect at least.

biggill wrote:

CIDRAP hasn’t had any models that I’m aware of. Osterholm has always said that all models are wrong.

CIDRAP and U of MN School of Public Health (responsible for the models) are both led by Osterholm, so maybe a difference without a distinction.

Do you happen to have those models handy? I’m not finding Osterholms name on any of the UM public health models or presentations nor am I finding any references to CIDRAP.

Iowaboy1 wrote:

I have a question,,,,,,,,,,
For example, IF flu type A was dumped into a room full of one hundred people, everyone of them that becomes infected will suffer with the same effects, fever, chills, sweats, vomiting, diarrhea, aches, pains, etc.

The big bad C thing, dump it into a room full of one hundred people and IF EVERYONE becomes infected, on average from what I see, if you divide the group in threes, each group will suffer from different symptoms including death.
some will suffer very little, some will suffer with bad cold or flu like symptoms, some will die, most get over it.

From my standpoint, this is dependent on your specific DNA.
And, if so, this tells me it is manmade, nothing in nature gives a sh!t about where you come from, IE, a rattlesnake is offended and bites you, it has no care in the world how many people got laid to the point to your birthday.

Can I get an Amen?? or is that question over your heads????

AMEN!!! Our position in my household all along.

biggill wrote:

Do you happen to have those models handy? I’m not finding Osterholms name on any of the UM public health models or presentations nor am I finding any references to CIDRAP.

No, was just based off of his bio:
Dr. Osterholm is Regents Professor, McKnight Presidential Endowed Chair in Public Health, the director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP), Distinguished Teaching Professor in the Division of Environmental Health Sciences, School of Public Health, a professor in the Technological Leadership Institute, College of Science and Engineering, and an adjunct professor in the Medical School, all at the University of Minnesota.

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/about-us/cidrap-staff/michael-t-osterholm-phd-mph

I guess the point is he wasn’t involved with nor was he in direction of anyone making the models. He’s not even on the board at the UM Public Health. His bio only claims he was a professor.

I don’t see what modeling, Osterholm and CIDRAP has to do with the study anyway.

biggill wrote:

I don’t see what modeling, Osterholm and CIDRAP has to do with the study anyway.

You are correct that CIDRAP and UofMN School of Public Health are not related, only some overlapping staff. CIDRAP has not done modeling, I was wrong on that.

The study was from the Imperial College, which has been terribly wrong at nearly every turn, from initial models, to those same flawed models being extrapolated elsewhere, to politicians using this bad data as “scientific” reasoning for expanded lockdowns. Similarly the UofMN models were terribly wrong, and directly led to a year+ of Gov Walz executive powers, and thousands of closed for good businesses. Osterholm himself has had some terrible predictions, from predicting CONSERVATIVELY 1.6M US deaths in 18 months on Dan Barreiro’s show, to most of his predictions on Joe Rogan. So I guess my point is at best these institutions opinions (and that is what they are) need to be looked at skeptically, and other sources with hard data used to audit them. Or as you replied earlier, “When someone passes something off as fact that is clearly false, those are huge red flags to me.” Which is what it seems people are doing with Omicron, no one knows…yet.

Time to blow up this post.

I guess I wouldn’t put models and scientific studies in the same boat. One is trying to predict what they think will happen the other is telling us what has happened.

I’ve never been one to put any weight in models either. Especially those that thought they could predict the impact of masking.

You’re right, no one knows what’s going to happen with omicron yet. It could fizzle out with no explanation or it could be worst of the pandemic. Delta sure has had its way with the unvaccinated. Sure seems like omicron is going to have its way with the unvaccinated and the unboosted. We’ll see.

I sorta suspect that the NFL and NHL issues right now are because of omicron considering the NHL is nearly 100% vaccinated.

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I’m 64, don’t generally do well with vacs. Got my booster 2 days ago. No issues. Lady before us had her shot and walked the store for 15 minutes like they ask you to do. When she came back, she had a blood spot the size of a golf ball on her white shirt. They said it must have hit a capillary. Guess it’s rare but can happen. Gal giving shots said first time she has seen it in 3 years of giving shots.

If the vax works, then why are the vaxed people hounding the unvaxed to get it? If it’s protecting you, then let it protect you.

I had Covid in April. I’ve had worse colds. It was a sore throat for a day and a day of a very mild fever. Sounds like most people have worse reactions from the “vax” then I did from the virus.

If you want the vax, knock yourself out and get it. If you don’t want the vax, then don’t get it.

DON’T WORRY WHAT SOMEONE ELSE IS DOING. IT’S THEIR CHOICE. If the vax is so good then it shouldn’t matter if covid is being spread easier among the unvaxed. Those who want to be “protected” can be.

rjthehunter wrote:

If the vax works, then why are the vaxed people hounding the unvaxed to get it?

If there’s an example of this in this thread please quote it. I must’ve missed it.

The vast majority of the hounding seems to be by those that oppose.

biggill wrote:

If there’s an example of this in this thread please quote it. I must’ve missed it.

The vast majority of the hounding seems to be by those that oppose.

Perhaps not in this particular thread but if you dont think there is tremendous pandering pushing vaccines and boosters for everyone you are under a rock. Its everywhere. I cant even listen to the dang radio without hearing a Pfizer ad preaching to get vaccinated. I hear 2 at least every morning and Im only in the vehicle for a half hour.

biggill wrote:

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If the vax works, then why are the vaxed people hounding the unvaxed to get it?

If there’s an example of this in this thread please quote it. I must’ve missed it.

The vast majority of the hounding seems to be by those that oppose.

Is a vaccine mandate executive order considered hounding?

About this time next year…

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biggill wrote:

The vast majority of the hounding seems to be by those that oppose.

That is so wrong it’s funny.

Please leave this thread open… I want to read about the 8th booster and how it was only a sore arm.

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big_g wrote:

Please leave this thread open… I want to read about the 8th booster and how it was only a sore arm.

What a bunch of sheep. They will probably let an additional 5 countries implant chips in them for this China Cold. Beyond North Korea, Iran, and Russia…which is the next country to contract rights with Biden’s team and Dr. Fuji for supplying the next round of “vaccines”?!?

gregory wrote:

About this time next year…

now that’s really funny.