Confused, mad, embarrassed, intrigued

Every headline is the same, including our “home town” news.

There should be a law that says ” No media or any other such coverage is allowed at any trial”. No live broadcast,no cameras, no anything until it’s over. The court of public opinion should not be an option.
The mainstream media already found Chauvin guilty without hearing the other side of the story.

Coletrain27 wrote:

the “strangulation expert” should be careful, that comb over he has might strangle someone

LOL

Waiting for the Perry Mason moment, when the Defense has a 6’5″ man walk in, lay on the floor and have actors, the same size as the officers, kneel on him and see how restricted his breathing is.

gimruis wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Coletrain27 wrote:</div>
the “strangulation expert” should be careful, that comb over he has might strangle someone

LOL

I couldn’t believe that thing! How is that possibly better than being bald? Hilarious.

Is Andy Cox a juror?
Haven’t seen him around….

I couldnt believe it either! Then he had to disclose his wage he is getting of $300 an hour and that’s all the better haircut he can get!?

wkw wrote: There should be a law that says ” No media or any other such coverage is allowed at any trial”. No live broadcast,no cameras, no anything until it’s over.

There is a minor constitutional issue with your take – under the Sixth Amendment all defendants are guaranteed a public trial in the interests of fairness. If Chauvin’s attorney objected and demonstrated that admission of the public, including the media, created a risk that the trial would be unfair the judge would rule on the defense motion. To my knowledge Chauvin’s counsel made no such motion. Absent such a motion there would be no grounds to appeal the issue.

The medical examiner who determined the cause of Floyd’s death is expected to testify today. Could be pivotal testimony.

gimruis wrote:

The medical examiner who determined the cause of Floyd’s death is expected to testify today. Could be pivotal testimony.

my guess if that medical examiner is testifying for the prosecuter, it wont bid well for the defense…..but them i probably watch to many episodes of law and order…..

Sad deal, but this latest shooting won’t help either side. This Brooklyn Center shooting seems 100% different than Chauvin’s case. I feel sorry for both the family and the cop.

Praying for the residents and business owners in Brooklyn Center as I don’t think the curfew will have any effect.

Unbelievable that the metro has 2 cases like this.

Dutchboy wrote:

Unbelievable that the metro has 2 cases like this.

yes and no, when you look at the crime rate its no surprise. even in my little town of 15,000, theft is at record high. tools stolen in down town in broad daylight in front of a busy business, full work vans stolen etc.
i sure hope that all this ends well. Imo the mainstream media,and social media is doing it no good,at the end of the day we need law and order.

I like many others here have a close friend who is a cop. He has been told to stay local until the trial is over. Now we have this BC tossing more gasoline on the flames.

I’m concerned for all the LEO’s during these times.

My parents live two blocks away from this latest event. I live in South Minneapolis blocks away from last year’s event. Just got done walking through uptown and sad to see everything being boarded up again. National Guard on the streets. Flashbacks to last summer.

I’m sad for our city and for our state. The eyes of the world were already on us and this only makes it work. I lived for years on the east coast and otherwise intelligent people could not even show where MN was on the map.

And now we are only known for this. Our great state. Sad.

What the definition of good guy-good kid? seems that’s all I hear now days.

From what I’ve read and saw, it seems to be a very unfortunate accident. She clearly meant to tase the fleeing criminal with warrants out for his arrest, not to kill him.

But at the end of the day, most events like this come down to the old “play stupid games….win stupid prizes.”

Your odds of intentionally or accidentally being killed by law enforcement drop exponentially by listening to police officers instructions.

He didn’t deserve to die, and she had no desire to kill him. My heart goes out to both individuals and their families.

That kid would still be alive if he listened to his mom and to the police officers. Resisting arrest is hazardous to your health. The sooner people learn that, the better off we all will be.

I agree B. From the audio & video of the vest camera she clearly told him she would tase him, she then shouted taser, taser, taser warning the other cops. I wasn’t there but there seems little doubt this shooting was a accident.

BINGO! B-man

How many Million$ will this mistake cost the city ? Maybe all the riot and looting fines can help pay for this one.

It’s unfortunate that on the radio, all that’s reported about the most recent shooting, is that a black man who was pulled over for expired tabs, was gunned down by a cop.
That’s almost word for word what i heard on abc and cbs news radio today.

B-man wrote:

Your odds of intentionally or accidentally being killed by law enforcement drop exponentially by listening to police officers instructions.

That seems to be a common theme in many of these incidents. Not all of them, but most of them. I find it odd that no one ever mentions that part either.

Regardless, it doesn’t give anyone the right to go out and destroy, vandalize, loot, or burn. One of these days its going to spread to a residential neighborhood and they’re gonna urine off the wrong home owner and then things will really escalate.

Pailofperch wrote:

It’s unfortunate that on the radio, all that’s reported about the most recent shooting, is that a black man who was pulled over for expired tabs, was gunned down by a cop.
That’s almost word for word what i heard on abc and cbs news radio today.

Social media is rolling with he was “pulled over for air fresheners”.

1. Wanted criminal tries to flee the cops.
2. Cop accidentally shoots criminal.

#2 would not have happened if not for #1. And breaking the law without consequence is not acceptable behavior in a civilized society.

The public reaction is way off balance and out of control. Something needs to be done to correct this or its going to get worse and eventually affect us all up close and personal. Imagine what would happen if they disarm the public or make self defense a criminal act.

suzuki wrote:

1. Wanted criminal tries to flee the cops.
2. Cop accidentally shoots criminal.

#2 would not have happened if not for #1. And breaking the law without consequence is not acceptable behavior in a civilized society.

The public reaction is way off balance and out of control. Something needs to be done to correct this or its going to get worse and eventually affect us all up close and personal.

I agree that there are consequences for breaking the law and there always should be to maintain order. If you flee cops, your chances of something bad happening go up exponentially.

On the same note, this police officer involved is now responsible for a death due to her negligence. Even though it clearly looks like she made a mistake, you are still responsible for your actions while making a mistake. This is a textbook example of manslaughter per Minnesota’s laws. She is going to jail. Let’s hope this is plead out early and everything is resolved with as much order as possible.

I never would’ve predicted Minnesota to be the posterchild for civil unrest…but here we are. The last year has reminded me every day just how happy I am to not live in an urban or suburban area. You couldn’t pay me enough to live in the metro area or surrounding suburbs.

buckybadger wrote:

The last year has reminded me every day just how happy I am to not live in an urban or suburban area. You couldn’t pay me enough to live in the metro area or surrounding suburbs.

And all of us suburban dwellers are “citiots” too I suppose. I’m sure every person including you that lives in a rural setting is an angel.

Watching the body cam video I was wondering what in the world she was even trying to do. The one male officer had him detained and was about to put handcuffs on him, then she reaches her hands in there and that is when he got free and jumped back in the car. Why was she reaching her hands in there?

buckybadger wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>suzuki wrote:</div>
1. Wanted criminal tries to flee the cops.
2. Cop accidentally shoots criminal.

#2 would not have happened if not for #1. And breaking the law without consequence is not acceptable behavior in a civilized society.

The public reaction is way off balance and out of control. Something needs to be done to correct this or its going to get worse and eventually affect us all up close and personal.

I agree that there are consequences for breaking the law and there always should be to maintain order. If you flee cops, your chances of something bad happening go up exponentially.

On the same note, this police officer involved is now responsible for a death due to her negligence. Even though it clearly looks like she made a mistake, you are still responsible for your actions while making a mistake. This is a textbook example of manslaughter per Minnesota’s laws. She is going to jail. Let’s hope this is plead out early and everything is resolved with as much order as possible.

You might want to explore the “qualified immunity” that applies to police, firefighters, EMT’s, etc. If this plays out as I believe it will, I don’t believe there will be jail time for the officer.

Scott

CaptainMusky wrote:

Why was she reaching her hands in there?

It looked like Daunte was starting to resist being cuffed and she reached in to help. I don’t know police procedures but don’t the police usually bring the person to the back of the vehicle or shut the drivers door? Either of these would have prevented him from getting back in the vehicle.

In the Booklyn Center press conference someone from the audience said it was taking 2-3 months to get license tabs. My son’s car’s tabs expired in March. He ordered them online and had them in 5-6 days.

As I understand it during the traffic stop they ran his license (which they do to everybody) and his came back with a outstanding warrant. That’s what the arrest was going to be about. It’s doubtful that without the outstanding warrant he would have gotten a ticket for no tabs. But, that’s something we will never know the answer to.

CaptainMusky wrote:

Watching the body cam video I was wondering what in the world she was even trying to do. The one male officer had him detained and was about to put handcuffs on him, then she reaches her hands in there and that is when he got free and jumped back in the car. Why was she reaching her hands in there?

She was that cops Training Officer. She saw the guy make a handful of mistakes and reach in to prevent an unsafe situation. First off he didn’t pull the suspect to the rear of the vehicle away from the door to prevent him from reaching/getting back into the vehicle. Second he didn’t have a good stance with him, suspects legs should be spread and officers leg should be between the suspects feet, not behind. Third he was fumbling with his handcuffs. She noticed the suspect tensing getting ready to fight/flee when she stepped in. Yes she grabbed the wrong tool.

But why? I’ll let the facts surface before making a judgement.

All the Police taser Guns that I’ve seen look nothing like a real handgun. Most are even a bright color to prevent accidents like this from happening. Even though it is clear that this was a accident – I just don’t know how it could have happened. It looks like the situation was well under control until she became involved. Its just a really sad situation for all involved.