Condominium collapses!

  • munchy
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    #2044443

    It is a lot of building to just collapse without anyone noticing an issue.

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    Buzz
    Minneapolis MN
    Posts: 1804
    #2044445

    Wasn’t the Navy testing a new bomb a few days ago that registered on the Richter Scale?

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 20224
    #2044448

    Thats called cutting structural concrete with out proper engineering and shoring to support the floors and beams.

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 20224
    #2044451

    It is a lot of building to just collapse without anyone noticing an issue.

    What are you pointing out?

    fishtoeat
    Chippewa Falls, Wi
    Posts: 407
    #2044459

    I wouldn’t doubt if the salt water atmosphere got to the re-bar in the exposed concrete columns of the parking area and they just kept patching and painting over it.

    KPE
    River Falls, WI
    Posts: 1639
    #2044460

    It is a lot of building to just collapse without anyone noticing an issue.

    I’m sure in the coming months you’ll hear about 1-2 engineers/ employees/ inspectors who tried to speak up and were fired or silenced in the name of profit. Seems to be the trend when stuff like this happens.

    fishtoeat
    Chippewa Falls, Wi
    Posts: 407
    #2044462

    It looks to be slightly more than half, maybe an added wing using different engineering practices?

    munchy
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    #2044472

    Wasn’t the Navy testing a new bomb a few days ago that registered on the Richter Scale?

    That was to test the durability of a new aircraft carrier. It was 100 miles off the coast of Daytona which would have then been almost 300 miles from the collapse. I’m sure they’re looking into it but I have my doubts that it could have been the main factor in the collapse.

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    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11570
    #2044481

    Whoa, hoping it’s a lot of second properties and people weren’t there midweek. Can’t imagine anyone making it out alive on that wing.

    munchy
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    #2044482

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>munchy wrote:</div>
    It is a lot of building to just collapse without anyone noticing an issue.

    What are you pointing out?

    Not sure if you’re talking about the picture I posted? The area in red is the portion that collapsed. Which is about half the building.

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 20224
    #2044486

    This happens more them you think it does, duluth building collapse of shoring due to improper load bearing 2 years ago. Hard Rock hotel in New Orleans earlier this year, the new lower town ballpark had a collapse and a operator died a couple years ago in st paul.
    I do structural cutting on buildings every day and know this field very well. It’s very dangerous when people want to cut corners and save a few bucks.

    munchy
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    #2044488

    This happens more them you think it does, duluth building collapse of shoring due to improper load bearing 2 years ago. Hard Rock hotel in New Orleans earlier this year, the new lower town ballpark had a collapse and a operator died a couple years ago in st paul.
    I do structural cutting on buildings every day and know this field very well. It’s very dangerous when people want to cut corners and save a few bucks.

    Totally get that. From the sounds of it they were just having some roof work being done, nothing that should have compromised the structure to make it fully collapse like that.

    Curious to know what the root cause is however.

    Let’s all just hope it wasn’t a bomb…

    Brad Dimond
    Posts: 1450
    #2044489

    Also, it’s Florida and that is one of the most corrupt states in the Union. Contractors bribe inspectors to pass construction using substandard materials, the legislature and governor are in the pockets of developers and most of the contractors on large developments are one hit wonders (finish the project and go out of business).

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22533
    #2044500

    Some people were speculating that there was a sinkhole based on how everything just went down versus debris scattered. IDK about that considering when they intentionally collapse a building it drops just like this thing did.

    jimmysiewert
    Posts: 497
    #2044503

    Proof?

    Seems like everyone is speculating from the govt. to god knows what. Can’t anyone wait until findings start to come out before making a fool of themselves speculating???

    munchy
    NULL
    Posts: 4928
    #2044504

    Proof?

    Seems like everyone is speculating from the govt. to god knows what. Can’t anyone wait until findings start to come out before making a fool of themselves speculating???

    Don’t lump me in with your “everyone” statement.

    lindyrig79
    Forest Lake / Lake Mille Lacs
    Posts: 5795
    #2044511

    Some people were speculating that there was a sinkhole based on how everything just went down versus debris scattered. IDK about that considering when they intentionally collapse a building it drops just like this thing did.

    Sinkhole was one of the first things that came to mind when I saw it was FL

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 20224
    #2044514

    Proof?

    Seems like everyone is speculating from the govt. to god knows what. Can’t anyone wait until findings start to come out before making a fool of themselves speculating???

    Proof of what. No one said any government stuff. I was just stating simple facts about structural construction. Being that they said roof work. Roof work typically includes hvac, hvac usually means new holes being cut, new holes jeopardizes structural strength which is why I threw out my wild guess. Which is all that that is. A wild guess. Nothing to do with government or aliens or conspiracy

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10380
    #2044522

    Proof?

    Seems like everyone is speculating from the govt. to god knows what. Can’t anyone wait until findings start to come out before making a fool of themselves speculating???

    Last I checked this is kind of a chat room.

    Besides everyone knows Trumps is to blame.

    jimmysiewert
    Posts: 497
    #2044525

    Jeez – Sorry to bring everyone’s tempers and social media mania out today. Point is everything is speculation. Sinkholes, and yes – below were comments made that it was due to corruption, etc.

    “Also, it’s Florida and that is one of the most corrupt states in the Union. Contractors bribe inspectors to pass construction using substandard materials, the legislature and governor are in the pockets of developers and most of the contractors on large developments are one hit wonders (finish the project and go out of business)”

    Now it starts to come out (no speculation) – the building was built on filled in wetlands – and the building has been sinking and was well known issue for quite some time. No government corruption by the current governor, etc…..

    eyeguy507
    SE MN
    Posts: 5214
    #2044527

    Beat me to it EPG! I was actually going to say it was Bidens fault but we can blame the previous regime, that’s what the Trumpster liked to do anytime someone asked him a nasty question.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22533
    #2044533

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>CaptainMusky wrote:</div>
    ***Apparently you get blocked here when quoting a Tweet?***

    That is heartbreaking frown

    What is this about? LOL my original tweet…

    Hodag Hunter
    Northern Wisconsin
    Posts: 476
    #2044547

    My first thought – Bet they took low bid on that project. My experience is low bid = poor/cheater contractor or forgot something.

    American way – want best product – take low bid. Not me.

    Would you take low bid on a heart transplant?

    munchy
    NULL
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    #2044552

    What is this about? LOL my original tweet…

    LOL! I quoted your post with the tweeted video, hit submit and it said “You have been blocked” had to delete everything in the quotes to post.

    And yes, the video is heartbreaking.

    *and now it took me a dozen tries to respond to you* this site’s software sucks….*

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22533
    #2044554

    LOL! I quoted your post with the tweeted video, hit submit and it said “You have been blocked” had to delete everything in the quotes to post.

    And yes, the video is heartbreaking.

    *and now it took me a dozen tries to respond to you* this site’s software sucks….*

    LOL. Just read that there was a new building in the process of being built right next door. Someone who works a block from there said with all the drilling they have been doing for the footings/foundation the ground shakes a block away. I certainly hope they can find all the missing people and they are alive. Sad.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22418
    #2044562

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>jimmysiewert wrote:</div>
    Proof?

    Seems like everyone is speculating from the govt. to god knows what. Can’t anyone wait until findings start to come out before making a fool of themselves speculating???

    Last I checked this is kind of a chat room.

    Besides everyone knows Trumps is to blame.

    Actually not too far off… Brad Dimond is blaming Ron Desantis.. for a building that was built when he was 2 years old !!! rotflol

    mxskeeter
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 3753
    #2044594

    The building has been sinking for 30 years. Wonder why it wasn’t vacated and dropped years ago?
    Oh yeah I know why $$$$

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