Crappie, let’s talk fishing man, maybe there’s a forum somewhere on that there internets where one could partake in such an activity?
literally lol’ed here.
you do realize you are in the off topic forum right? there are 50 other forums on this message board where you can discuss fishing and never see any of this. its how it works.
I served in the Army for four years and MN National Guard for two. I signed up to protect his right to free speech, whether I agree with what he is saying or not. No one is obligated to get on his side. He thinks there is a problem, real or perceived, with the way people of color are treated, he didn’t elude to himself being oppressed. He could have come up with a much better platform to forward his message but it in no way, shape, or form means there is a “True American” way to do so. I am a middle aged white guy who also believes there is a problem with the way people of color are treated and I can help the fight and still honor the national anthem, and would stand beside the guy if the day came. Would still think he made himself out to be an ass, but here we are talking about it.
I’m upset that Kaepernick see’s the flag and the Star Spangled Banner as signs of oppression.
The sight of my brothers flag draped coffin coming off the plane after he was killed in Vietnam is forever burned in my mind.
I have zero tolerance for anyone that disrespects the United States Flag.
Phil, I don’t think it’s fair that you you directly quoted Crappie but translated the other views using words like Gawd, Merica and darkie to give it more impact. I get what you’re saying, but…
My stance… he can do what he wants, I defend that today and tomorrow. Just be ready to face the consequences of what you do. Doing something like this just plain disgusts me… that is my right and nobody can talk me out of it. Did anyone really “listen” to his lame “reasoning” for doing it ? Cops are shooting “blacks” (not whites, not hispanics, even though they are at a higher rate than blacks) and the cops are being paid leave and nobody is being held accountable….? Really ? If that is his perception, they best check his helmet for enough padding as he obviously has the blinders on.
I served in the Army for four years and MN National Guard for two. I signed up to protect his right to free speech, whether I agree with what he is saying or not. No one is obligated to get on his side. He thinks there is a problem, real or perceived, with the way people of color are treated, he didn’t elude to himself being oppressed. He could have come up with a much better platform to forward his message but it in no way, shape, or form means there is a “True American” way to do so. I am a middle aged white guy who also believes there is a problem with the way people of color are treated and I can help the fight and still honor the national anthem, and would stand beside the guy if the day came. Would still think he made himself out to be an ass, but here we are talking about it.
Thank you for serving!
I don’t like what he did, but don’t think shaming him into conformity is any better. Deep rooted nationalism spooks me after seeing what Paul Joseph Goebbels was able to spin.
Phil, I don’t think it’s fair that you you directly quoted Crappie but translated the other views using words like Gawd, Merica and darkie to give it more impact. I get what you’re saying, but…
Fair enough, that is the ‘between the lines’ interpretation, I can do some direct quotes though!
Today many young people have no idea what service to the country means or stands for, because they are not in or have been in any branch of the military. They think they don’t need to partake. They don’t have time. They’re chicken schnit. Whatever. The draft assured that able bodied men were continuing life’s education in one branch of the four branches of service. Part of that service involves taking pride in the country and the flag that represents it and the pledge to reside in this country. Part also involves defending the freedoms of those who choose to dishonor this symbolic pride in our country either in writing, or actions or in covering your body in ink like some derelict….just because one can.
-Anyone who doesn’t want to be in the military is a chicken poop. Nice. I’m guessing that includes a large portion of people in this thread.
-Emphasis on men, implying women are of less use to the military? Or again, that in order to be a MAN you have to be in the military? Either way, another nice touch.
-Getting tattoos dishonors the symbolic pride in this country. Sooo a tattoo honoring my Grandpa with his initials is a slap in the face to this country. I had no idea. After all, I didn’t earn the right to honor my grandpa because I was never in the military.
Those who have served have earned any tats they have. Those who have served have a greater voice in my eye than some twink who plays a game instead of choosing to serve his country for 4 short years.
-tattoos are okay if you were in the military!
-Colin Kaepernick is a twink(slang for gay). And we all know that gays are dumb and can’t be trusted or that being gay invalidates them or something?
-Kaepernick isn’t the best QB in the league, but he’s literally what, like in the top 40 of quarterbacks in the entire world? It makes way more sense for people to NOT pursue something that they are in the top .0001% of in the world?
Edit: Oops, forgot the part about mandatory draft for all 18 year olds. Again. I’ll keep bringing this one up because no one will respond to it. In this FREE country that heroes fought for in the revolutionary war, civil war, WW1, WWII, etc, we feel that FORCING 18 year olds into service even if they have zero interest seems like the opposite of freedom to me. Feel free to continue replying to every part of my post besides this part, just like my last six posts.
I try to stay away from debates when Pitchfork Nation gets fired up, because people emotionally twist things for or against their argument, and somehow hold grudges off of what someone posts online. I will just say I support everyone exercising their constitutional rights, whether it’s from the 1st, 2nd, 5th, or any other amendment. That is what makes America great whether you agree with them or not. I played football through college and stood at attention when the National Anthem played and it is something that still sends shivers down my spine. But I’ve also never cared what Colin Kaepernick did before, and I’m sure not going to start caring about his actions now.
For me, when I hear the Anthem, I think back to what Francis Scott Key witnessed and put on paper about Fort McHenry.
Just for informational purposes here is some background on the National Anthem. It didn’t become the anthem until 1931, 117 years after Francis Scott Key wrote it. Francis Scott Key was from a long line of slave owning plantation owners, and thought African-Americans were, “a distinct and inferior race of people, which all experience proves to be the greatest evil that afflicts a community.” It was also originally written as a poem and had a third verse in regards to the slaves and African-Americans that the British were paying to fight on there side that went:
“No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-dpangled banner in triumph doth wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.”
I’m not a fan of the draft. I think the military works better with men and women that want to be there. I in no way shape or format believe that when someone turns 18 they should be forced into the service. I enlisted at the age of 17, with my parents signature of course. However I am not one of those guy’s who says “everyone oughta do time in the Army, it’ll make a man out of them”
Should we be held accountable for what Key or any slave owner did centuries ago ? No slave or slave owner has taken a breath in this country, since 1866. Nice history lesson, but he is still a douchebag in mine eyes…. 
Should we be held accountable for what Key or any slave owner did centuries ago ? No slave or slave owner has taken a breath in this country, since 1866. Nice history lesson, but he is still a douchebag in mine eyes….
No, but maybe celebrating their work isn’t the best idea. And again I personally don’t agree with Kaepernick’s actions. But your posts show an obvious lack of understanding of the racial history in the US. Looks up debt peonage in regards to your 1866 date. Heck if you enlisted in 1985, the Civil Rights movement was likely just finishing when you were born. To think none of this impacts race relations today is unlikely imo.
Oh OK, as long as you know me so well, I don’t even need to respond anymore I guess. Sorry for polluting your thread. 
BTW… debt peonage was used on poor white people as well… now people of my color were enslaved too ???
Apology accepted 
Did the 49ers cut him yet? We might need him!
Idk we need to scoop him up now that teddy is out ,,,,he would be a good fit in Vikings offense .
Idk we need to scoop him up now that teddy is out ,,,,he would be a good fit in Vikings offense .
You mean in the same back field with the child beater?
BTW, he can’t play. Harbaugh the goofball that he is didn’t waste any time replacing him the first chance he got.
Idk we need to scoop him up now that teddy is out ,,,,he would be a good fit in Vikings offense .
He wouldn’t be a good fit anywhere.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Morel King wrote:</div>
Idk we need to scoop him up now that teddy is out ,,,,he would be a good fit in Vikings offense .You mean in the same back field with the child beater?
It’s funny you brought that up, cuz I was trying to decide which is worse. Beating your child, or not standing for the national anthem?
So far we have a man implying he would rather watch you drown than save your life if you don’t believe the same as him. That’s a good lesson to teach our kids. “Daddy that man is drowning, he needs our help”. “No sweetie he doesn’t believe the same as we do so he deserves to die. This is being a true American”. “Ok daddy”.
Now we have someone comparing child abuse to this issue. Wtf
You guys are right I think a lot of people really have shown their true colors here.
Hey man, sitting down instead of standing up for a song before a game is like totally on the same level as physically and emotionally harming an innocent child, likely causing permanent emotional damage!
Unless of course that child refused to say the pledge of allegiance in school, in which case he totally deserves it right?
It’s not even worth fighting about with these guys. Wish I could take back my last post and just stay out of it. Anyone who would watch another man drown for personal differences isn’t someone that is going to agree with me on anything
Your right. I’m wrong. Go hug your mirror and feel better.
Someone should just pull the plug on this thread.
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