Rising river waters

  • malomike
    River Falls, WI
    Posts: 148
    #1222053

    When we got off the river Friday around 12-1 am everything was normal. Went to land our boat a few hours ago and the landing was nowhere to be seen! River had to of rose 4-5 feet throughout the day.

    Anyway we ended up bailing, the current was very strong and we talked to a guy who was just getting out saying that a lot of large trees were drifting.

    Question is, what does this water rising do for fishing? Good/Bad? I know leaving was the smart thing to do, but man I wanted to fish! They were calling me..

    -Mallory

    northstar42
    west central Minnesotsa
    Posts: 921
    #893425

    My experience is that fishing is very difficult. Fish tend to scatter and if you catch anything at all, it is one fish here one there ect. If you are bottom fishing, debris builds up on your line and makes it very difficult.

    I’m heading for the Rainy River Monday and do not know what conditions are like there. I’m hoping all this is south of there.

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13294
    #893432

    Slow rising water I think turns the fish on. Lots of new food being swept to them. Fast rising water can scatter them for a few days until they get set up in new areas. Then its game on.

    malomike
    River Falls, WI
    Posts: 148
    #893441

    So once the fish get used to the new conditions (hopefully by next week), fishing should be back to normal?

    -Mike

    steve-demars
    Stillwater, Minnesota
    Posts: 1906
    #893444

    It looks like a major change in cat tactics is upon us. Normal summertime pool elevation is about 675′ which is about where it was before this latest bout of heavy rain. Today the pool elevation is 677.7′ and forecasted to be 678.9′ by Thursday. That is almost a 4 foot rise in water levels and you know that will change almost everything. It looks like this higher water will last a good week or more. What that means to us cat fishermen is that the flow or current will increase significantly and we can expect a lot of debris in the water.

    Most of the cats are now in postspawn mode and starting to feed aggressively. The cats are hungry and looking for baitfish to feed on. The key to finding fish is to find bait that they will be eating. My experience with rising water is that it will move most fish out of the direct current. I look for areas with current seams or eddys adjacent to current areas. The backsides of islands and long sandbars on an inside river bend with less current that are holding bait are good spots. To find these areas just watch upstream and down right about dusk when the water gets flat calm. You can see the baitfish dimpling the water and the occasional fish chasing bait. Those are the areas I target and hope the cats are in the mix of fish using those locations.

    I also like to fish right up tight against main channel shorelines dropping baits along shoreline current breaks. My low water scouting now pays big dividends because I know where rocks, sunken trees, shoreline washout humps are located and those spots should be holding bait and fish.

    My normal spring backwater spots that almost dried up during the low water spell will probably pick up a good current flow again and I plan on hitting those spots in the next couple of days to see if they are holding fish again.

    You have to work a little harder now to keep your lines clear – they will be picking up a lot of grass and crud riding in the current. This is a good enough reason to reposition your bait anyway so about every 5 to 10 minutes reel up your line and clear the debris, check your bait and then reposition your bait a few feet left or right of your last spot. I also like to fish more cut bait now since the scent trail will help fish find my bait. Postspawn flatheads this time of year don’t seem real picky about bait and will readily grab a hunk of cutbait. I try to fish a big hunk of cut bait on one rod just for those hungry flatheads.

    Some of my biggest fish have come in August and early September so we have some good fishing yet to come. We just need to adapt to the conditions, the fish are still there and hungry.

    dfresh
    Fridley, MN
    Posts: 3053
    #893447

    Very nice Steve. This should be helpful for my trip to P4 this week.

    mudcatkid
    On water
    Posts: 663
    #893449

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    Anyway we ended up bailing, the current was very strong and we talked to a guy who was just getting out saying that a lot of large trees were drifting.


    This is my biggest problem with high water – debris and lots of it.

    I was fishing mainchannel structure Friday PM and had a 20ft+ tree take out my anchor and boat. I moved to a backwater spot and a gaint rootball do the same thing about 2hrs later.

    Ya need to be fast with the anchor, lines, and motor when that stuff happens!

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13294
    #893560

    Quote:


    So once the fish get used to the new conditions (hopefully by next week), fishing should be back to normal?

    -Mike


    Would bet it will be sooner than a week before those fish want to eat again. I spend most of my time chasing walleyes but just about every thing stated above holds true for both fish. High water pushes fish out of the main current flow. This means looking for current breaks and seams. Lots of times baits fish will be pushed into these same areas.

    I also think high water hinders a fishes ability to feed. Food gets washed by pretty fast and if a fish takes even a second to decide if something is food or not it is gone. My belief is fish will aggressively hit items floating by in high water and decide once it is in there mouth if it is food or not.

    Debris floating down river is a tough one in high water. As stated above try looking to back water areas or other areas of the river that deflect this. With some scouting and time there is almost always a place to fish under just about any river condition. In our high water about a month ago I was motoring a half hour across a shallow stump filled lake to get to one of my spots. This was a narrow channel on the shoreline with lots of rocks and logs in it. The water would get funneled into this channel and pick up speed. The walleyes, bass and even cats where going very good in this spot. This was at a time when a lot of people where thinking the river was unfishable.

    malomike
    River Falls, WI
    Posts: 148
    #893665

    Quote:


    I was motoring a half hour across a shallow stump filled lake to get to one of my spots. This was a narrow channel on the shoreline with lots of rocks and logs in it. The water would get funneled into this channel and pick up speed.


    Wow. Sounds like that would be a fun ride back at 3 am!

    We have a little john boat luckily (saved our butts last weekend, Mike had to get out and push us for a while well I held up the motor in 6 inches of water) and for light we use my dads heavy rechargeable spotlight. It’s bright but not as reliable, obviously. The fog on the river has been horrible too! Add all that up and, depending on the fishing that night, Mike might just have a cranky wife. Haha

    -Mallory

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13294
    #893667

    Its not just fishing. Its an adventure. Have had some nights on the croix where its tough to see the front end of the boat. Took out the rear light on a over hanging branch on night. Surprised it didnt just take a person or 2 out of the boat. Had a couple of guys jumping off the Osceola bridge one night just about land in my boat. That would of sucked.

    What cool is watching the fog come off the river in the morning. It will form tight spirals as it lifts off. Looks like hundreds of mini tornado’s. Think you need a sunny morning and no breezy fro this to happen.

    steve-demars
    Stillwater, Minnesota
    Posts: 1906
    #894104

    Last night the river was at 678.6′ and running high and dirty. Most islands are just about under water and there is plenty of current flow. The upstream restriction and No Wake bouys from the High Bridge were scattered downstream from the bridge so you know the current and debris is pretty strong. I did manage a fat 28″ flathead on a chunk of cut bait at 2027 on the backside of an island fishing the current seam on the backside. Not fast action at all but the Twins / Chicago White Sox game was so good I didn’t care. Jim Thome wins it in the 10th on a Walk Off homerun. You can’t beat catfishing and a Twins game – life is good.

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