Holy Piraiba!

  • kooty
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    #891353

    Wow, at least he didn’t overreact….

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
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    #891361

    Funny you say that. I didn’t have the sound on here at work, but I saw him panting afterward and shaking his arm as if it was sore. When I saw that, I turned to the guy watching it with me and said, “Nancy Boy”.

    That’s the problem I have with all these “fishing” shows springing up on Discovery. It’s all drama and at the end they “magically” catch what they were seeking. Yeah, I still watch.

    There is one exception. I really like the biologist guy. I forget his name, but most people will know him from his stingray episodes.

    kooty
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    #891374

    I really like river monsters. I haven’t been hooked by many others. Occasionally whale wars simply to laugh at the hippy tree huggers. I agree with there stance, but holy Euro culture.

    mark_johnson
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    #891376

    I watched that the other night, it was pretty good! He is pretty animated too, if you turned the sound up and didnt watch you would think the fish was physically whipping him . I would call it a draw for him at best

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
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    #891380

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    Occasionally whale wars simply to laugh at the hippy tree huggers. I agree with there stance, but holy Euro culture.



    I am not a proponent for whaling either, but to me it is a little like being a CPR guy and chastising people who take a legal limit.

    But I too root against Paul Watson and his deer in the headlights face. You could tell him the boat is on fire and he’d just give you that glazed over look with his fat lower lip hanging with a half open mouth. And that new captain of the Barbara Barker is funny too. I hope the Ady Gil guy pops him one. I think he pooped his pants in the last episode.

    kooty
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    #891401

    The Ady captain is a bad I think. I missed the episode where he was going to try and board the Japanese vessel. That had to be funny.

    armchairdeity
    Phoenix, AZ, formerly from the NW 'Burbs, Minneapolis, MN, USA
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    #891392

    If you noticed the logo in the corner of the screen, it was National Geographic that airs this show, not History or whatever.

    The guy’s name is Jakob Vagner and his “nancy boy” fish was 104″ long and weighed 475 lbs. Pull that into the boat by yourself and tell me how your arms feel. I see no nancy boy, I see someone so pumped on adrenaline that he was shaking from head to foot and screaming like a conquering warrior.

    Hell I did almost the same thing when I caught my first 10+ lb catfish this year, and it was only a 16# flattie. When I caught my 40# fish I screamed so loud they could probably hear me in Hastings and Aitkin.

    Zeb Hogan (the biologist guy), on the other hand, turns my stomach. His limp-wristed, step-in-and-take-credit-for-other-people’s-research and the fact that his shows air 2 weeks behind River Monsters with the same species just p1sses me off… lazy, copycat, pretentious puke. Between him and Brady Barr they give Nat Geo a really bad rep when it comes to putting “naturalists” on TV.

    At least Mr. Vagner doesn’t try to pass himself off as something that he’s not. He’s out for the fishing, not some hack globe-trotting superscientist.

    Oh, and I’m a total River Monsters junkie. Jeremy Wade is my hero. I kinda like the drama of the show, it makes the whole thing entertaining. And that’s what it is, entertainment…

    I guess that’s where we get the term “to each his own”, eh?

    Czech
    Cottage Grove, MN
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    #891411

    He still put a glove on. Sally….

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
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    #891413

    Was that last week or this week. I don’t exactly make a point to watch it.

    Yeah, I did feel bad for that guy when he lost his boat. Looked like the Japanese vessel intentionally rammed him. I did not see a rolling wave that would have turned it at the last moment.

    mplspug
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    #891416

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    Zeb Hogan (the biologist guy), on the other hand, turns my stomach. His limp-wristed, step-in-and-take-credit-for-other-people’s-research and the fact that his shows air 2 weeks behind River Monsters with the same species just p1sses me off… lazy, copycat, pretentious puke. Between him and Brady Barr they give Nat Geo a really bad rep when it comes to putting “naturalists” on TV.




    What, you insinuating Zeb is stalking river monster guy? Zeb’s show is exactly what I would expect on Discover, National Geo, Animal Planet, etc. After all, it isn’t the Outdoor Channel.

    I don’t mind Jeremy Wade’s River Monsters. Considering the audience, they are making a good show. But he seems to be running out of material. I mean, Killer Sturgeon in Alaska?

    And Jakub Vagner is still a Nancy boy. He’s probably related to our Jakob.

    kooty
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    #891447

    Hey, I don’t fault you guys for getting that excited about a fish. It’s just when I see it on TV I tend to think over dramatized for the camera. I’ve been in the boat when a big fish is landed and the smiles and high 5’s are tough to beat!! At any rate, this is a GIANT fish!!

    malomike
    River Falls, WI
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    #891454

    I can dig just about any of these fishing shows (Especially River Monsters)… They catch huge fish, and they usually fish about the same way I do. They get a big arse sinker, a leader, a big arse hook, and they throw some bait on it specific to the fish.

    And let us not forget “I carry latex gloves with me for dealing with stinky bait.”

    -Mike

    armchairdeity
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    #891487

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    And let us not forget “I carry latex gloves with me for dealing with stinky bait.”

    -Mike


    I got no issue with gloves, and I’d rather wear a glove than waste stinkbait wiping it off my hands into my jeans to then overwhelm the smell of flathead slime for the rest of the night.

    hanson
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    #891527

    Is that Paraiba bigger than the one Larry Dahlberg caught??

    I really don’t care what these other guys are catching on TV now, I think Larry probably paved the way for all of them.

    Search “Dahlberg King Kong Catfish” on YouTube to find the video.

    Larry is my hero!

    armchairdeity
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    #891549

    The Hanson video is disappointing at best since all you ever get to see is the hookset and a slow-motion release that hardly shows the fish.

    Still an impressive fish tho!

    kooty
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    #891566

    I was thinking the exact same thing. That fish Larry caught on his own the last morning was amazing. Here’s to Larry!!

    flatheadwi
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    #891618

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    The guy’s name is Jakob Vagner and his “nancy boy” fish was 104″ long and weighed 475 lbs. Pull that into the boat by yourself and tell me how your arms feel. I see no nancy boy, I see someone so pumped on adrenaline that he was shaking from head to foot and screaming like a conquering warrior.


    Exactly! If anything, it was UNDERdramatized because he was so fatigued from the fight. Pulling that fish into the boat on his own after that incredible fight was practically superhuman. Great video and amazing fish!

    mplspug
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    #891634

    Just listened to the video. What kind of nancyboy accent is that? Iriscandanvianish? On the flip side, I am glad one member of ABBA found a second career.

    cat-stevens
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    #891639

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    Just listened to the video. What kind of nancyboy accent is that? Iriscandanvianish? On the flip side, I am glad one member of ABBA found a second career.


    Enter stirring the pot emoticon here

    armchairdeity
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    #891642

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    Just listened to the video. What kind of nancyboy accent is that? Iriscandanvianish? On the flip side, I am glad one member of ABBA found a second career.


    I know you’re just trying to get some goats here, so I will simply say this: Jakub Vágner is Czech.

    Oh, also: there are a few of us here, and we still love jitrnice and knedliky and expecially grandma’s kolacky. Better watch yourself, there, pugster.

    Don’t knock the Slovak, that’s all I’m sayin.

    Czech
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    #891660

    Quote:


    I know you’re just trying to get some goats here, so I will simply say this: Jakub Vágner is Czech.


    Is not!

    armchairdeity
    Phoenix, AZ, formerly from the NW 'Burbs, Minneapolis, MN, USA
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    #891690

    Allow me to clarify:

    He’s Czechoslovakian.

    Better? P

    mplspug
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    #891706

    Man I hate it when I go fishing in a thread and my bait gets stolen.

    hanson
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    #891753

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    The Hanson video is disappointing at best since all you ever get to see is the hookset and a slow-motion release that hardly shows the fish.



    The video is out there, you just need to do a little digging.

    I’ve seen the full catch a number of times on Larry’s show, Hunt for Big Fish on Versus. It was on his trip to Suriname.

    Like I said… Larry is the man… everyone else is a copycat at this point.

    armchairdeity
    Phoenix, AZ, formerly from the NW 'Burbs, Minneapolis, MN, USA
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    #891792

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    Like I said… Larry is the man… everyone else is a copycat at this point.


    Does that make me a copy-cat for not being the first one to put a picture of a fish on this forum?

    I guess that makes James a copy-cat for not being the first one to make a fishing show.

    I get loyalty, but man, let’s try to keep a little perspective here…

    mplspug
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    #891794

    So I watched the episode last night in full and he is definitely not a Nancyboy. Eating grubs for a snack and arms chewed up from mosquito bites were just some of the things he endured.

    The show was very well done up until the battle you see in the link. At that point the video editor went nuts and started doing all these fast cuts I guess for non anglers who might not be as excited. But I can imagine how sore he was and how I would be shaking too and excited.

    The skeptic in me questions whether he actually caught it on the last day or if they put it in there to make it more exciting. I also question the size of the fish. It is big, but not sure if it was over 400#. And he also doesn’t know how to take the length of a fish. He was bending the tape around the body, not keeping it straight.

    But in the end those things really didn’t bother me, it was a great show to watch.

    armchairdeity
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    #891798

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    So I watched the episode last night in full and he is definitely not a Nancyboy. Eating grubs for a snack and arms chewed up from mosquito bites were just some of the things he endured.


    I thought it wasn’t going to air till the 16th… where’d you watch it? Link?

    I would really like to see the whole episode too!

    armchairdeity
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    #891803

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    I also question the size of the fish. It is big, but not sure if it was over 400#. And he also doesn’t know how to take the length of a fish. He was bending the tape around the body, not keeping it straight.


    I know this may be a bit on the “pointless argumentation” side at this point, but I like this guy and after doing a bunch of looking around I’m convinced he’s more “the real thing” than most anyone else on TV at this point. It’s worth clarifying, I think.

    With that in mind, I’d just like to suggest that the guy with 8 world records from 3 continents (that I could find, and not counting the piraiba or the goonch), discovered at least one brand-new species in Africa and rediscovered the golden nile perch (though extinct for 30 years) would probably know a thing or two about how to measure a fish.

    Seriously, compared to guys playing at this level our 35×17 channel cats are silly and we’re ALL nancyboys.

    Personally, I’m OK with that, though.

    PS – His own website reports the weight of the piraiba at 418 lbs, as opposed to Nat Geo’s inflated “over 475 lbs”.

    Golden Nile Perch

    New Species

    Quick google search of IGFA fish records for Jakub Vagner

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