Is this wierd?

  • jakefroyum
    Posts: 94
    #1221486

    I have a spot on the MN River that doesn’t look like a cat spot but it seems to produce. It is atleast a 1/4 mile from the nearest bend, it is pretty shallow (right now its about 3-5 ft deep)and doesnot have snags. There a a few logs sticking out of the water 30 or 40 yards up stream and down stream. The only reson I fish it is because I camped on the sand there once and caught fish. Now I go back and just fish it from shore. In about 5 times going there two or three of us have pulled four 30’s, half a dozen 20+ and half a doz 10+ pound flatheads; and channels anytime we fish cutbait. Lost one last weekend that took a lot of drag on a heavy Diawa reel cranked all the way down with 80 lb Suffix. Sometimes at day sometimes at night. Why would this seemingly dumb spot to fish be so good?

    perch_44
    One step ahead of the Warden.
    Posts: 1589
    #782488

    that does seem odd. there are a few spots that we fish on the Minnesota that are kind of the same conditions, but not quite that productive. why don’t you pm me the location/coordinates of it, and i’ll head out there do some detective work for you, maybe i can help you out in this dilemma.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #782489

    It’s all relative.

    jerrj01
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 1547
    #782490

    I’m willing to tag alone with a blindfold on. Trust me I won’t peek.

    bret_clark
    Sparta, WI
    Posts: 9362
    #782496

    Not familiar with the area at all, by chance have you found yourself a clam bed? Channel cats love clam beds.
    What kind of contour does the bottom have, sometimes the slightest of humps in current provides an awesome ambush spot while waiting for the current to push something your way.
    What is the river floor like? Are you snagging up on or noticing a change in bottom from sand to rock, Flatheads will lay on the down side of rocks waiting for there food source to come cruising past.
    On Pool 8 one of my favorite flathead spots is rock, not wood.

    Just some things I thought I would throw out there to see if you have observed or something you might want to look for, either way, nice job finding yourself a honey hole

    Whiskerkev
    Madison
    Posts: 3835
    #782497

    You are fishing a transition area where fish are passing through in the mood to eat. Sometimes, bait stack up on sand. I know a similar spot on the miss that is a back water run with a shallow sand bar and when shad are up there you can sometimes see cat dorsal fins in 2 feet of water chasing them. Spend enough time on the water and you’ll develop a milk run of spots like that.

    jakefroyum
    Posts: 94
    #782498

    The funny thing is that the last two times that I went I asked about 5 different people to go and everyone was busy. I just took the neighbor. He said it ruined him for fishing though because he said he used to get exited over 10 lb fish. He was the one one that had the bigh fish peel drag when it was cranked all the way down.

    jakefroyum
    Posts: 94
    #782501

    I pretty much figured the transition thing, kinda like a deer trail. Fish are probably on the move or up there feeding. It seems to be in spurts, couple fish within a couple minutes then a two hour wait and then it will kick in again. Maybe its normal in the MN River but this spot has gar cruising the shore non stop. If you shine a flashlight in the water you can always find them cruising around. We always catch a couple gar or atleast get them to shore before they let go when we use cutbait. Tis might be related to the cats or maybe it doesn’t anything to do with anything.

    rod-man
    Pine City, MN.
    Posts: 1279
    #782502

    PM Sent

    Whiskerkev
    Madison
    Posts: 3835
    #782507

    Find the deep holes above and below your spot and they are good day spots to hit. When you set a hook they should head for home which will give you a clue which direction to look around there.

    larry_haugh
    MN
    Posts: 1767
    #782509

    Actually right now there are a number of spots on the MN that are producing fish right now that normally would not till later summer given the lower water conditions… Your on a food run of the fish and they are moving from cover to cover looking for food.
    With the low water conditions as of Late… (though things might change with the recent rains) Lots of fish in general and big fish also are being caught in spots like this.
    I have a pretty good idea of where you are talking about given the area you have described. Be careful of broadcasting hot spots right now… the Cat thing is hot and everyone is looking to get into them.
    Congrats on the fish… keep notes on how it does during different times of year at different levels.
    thanks

    life1978
    Eau Claire , WI
    Posts: 2790
    #782546

    Take Larry’s advice. It’s great. It sucks to get out to a great spot you found and have someone else sitting there.

    larry_haugh
    MN
    Posts: 1767
    #782566

    Quote:


    Take Larry’s advice. It’s great.


    Welllll…… I wouldn’t go that far.. on the advice… Many will call me clueless…. but I’ll take a complement from a fellow vet catter… Thanks Mate.

    mossydan
    Cedar Rapids, Iowa
    Posts: 7727
    #782574

    Were catching flatheads in shallow water right now and the females are full of eggs and thier feeding pretty fair. Could it be that thier feeding there putting blood on thier eggs and getting ready to spawn close by, where theres females theres males. If you catch them there after they spawn they may be putting thier weight back on. If they stop hitting after that, like during the summer Id say thier there now because of the food supply and a nearby spawning area.

    jakefroyum
    Posts: 94
    #782653

    Oops, I lied about the spot, it was a farm pond.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #782655

    I know that farm pond!

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #782716

    Quote:


    Were catching flatheads in shallow water right now and the females are full of eggs and thier feeding pretty fair. Could it be that thier feeding there putting blood on thier eggs and getting ready to spawn close by, where theres females theres males. If you catch them there after they spawn they may be putting thier weight back on. If they stop hitting after that, like during the summer Id say thier there now because of the food supply and a nearby spawning area.



    I haven’t seen any love wounds on any fish yet. Maybe this cool weather will lead to a strong class of flatheads, since they may have a few extra weeks to add some eggs?

    channelcatben
    South Minneapolis
    Posts: 363
    #782725

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    I haven’t seen any love wounds on any fish yet.


    Tough to tell if you haven’s seen any fish yet, Pug.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #782761

    Quote:


    Tough to tell if you haven’s seen any fish yet, Pug.



    Here I thought we were friends….

    Even if I had seen any fish, they are normally too young to make babies.

    Whiskerkev
    Madison
    Posts: 3835
    #782804

    And Boom, Ben gets in with another burn. You have to watch out for channel cat guys.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #782819

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    Tough to tell if you haven’s seen any fish yet, Pug


    I wish I would have said that!!

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #782889

    Excuse me, I got some leaders to tie. And some sickly bullheads in my cooler that I need to get rid of before they become stink bait. I sure hope flatheads appreciate a little fungus with their meal.

    ggoody
    Mpls MN
    Posts: 2603
    #783125

    Quote:


    And some sickly bullheads in my cooler that I need to get rid of before they become stink bait.


    Fished with a Guy last night that was making Bullhead and Sucker Wine in his Baitbucket.

    audemp
    Wi
    Posts: 721
    #783266

    Hmm yes it had quite a fine boquet with a slight cherry and oak hint

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #783276

    Quote:


    Fished with a Guy last night that was making Bullhead and Sucker Wine in his Baitbucket.



    LOL, I may have seen where you were. I just posted a thread you might want to check out.

    joshbjork
    Center of Iowa
    Posts: 727
    #783298

    I keep trying to find ways to understand the fish. I’ve been to spillways where people hook them up at one spot but my local one is a straight tube lined with large rocks. I have sat there and studied it and decided there’s a spot every 10 feet where a fish could tuck his nose down and wait. Almost any rock as big as a basketball will do. Their body is made to draft like a race car. I think of the rocks as micro structure. They’re all spread out so there’s no pattern. A few flats get caught every spring, usually by accident. Yet I know some are there, the catfish rescue on the news last summer was from the same place. They closed the road and it flooded right at prime time last June.

    I think one microstructure that we can’t see from above is beaver holes. I’m sure there are others but who knows what they would be. If you could see them, a piece of culvert, a tire, a log that sits just so or whatever, you’d fish there but we don’t even know they exist. People used to line the river banks with old cars. There’s junk in there! I’ve got some madtoms in a tank and they’re really old. I think going on three years. Ever since first going in the tank they wanted to be under something. Desperately. Tails churning until they are under something. They’ll sit upside down or sideways bottom or top but they like to have a roof. And they feed in a frenzy like they’re the big dogs on the block. They act completely blind until they smell the food then they attack. Some times the weather is just right and they’ll swim around. So, that’s a long, loosely relative story but they’re sort of catfish and I’ll bet there’s something good in a good spot but you just can’t see it. Some places are obvious and hold no fish. I seem to find a lot of those.

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