Winter ~ time time to get ready!

  • Brian Klawitter
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    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
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    #1220370

    Back when all I ever did was fly fish, I always enjoyed tying the fly’s that I used for trout and panfish. Then once I started fishing walleyes, I was snelling my own spinners and tying jigs. I didn’t really do this for the cost savings. It was more for the relaxation and satisfaction of catching fish on lures that I made.

    Then came cat fishing. It is much easier to buy a 10/0 Gamakatsu hook than it is to make your own. So the only piece of the terminal end that I could make was the sinkers. Since I use no-roll sinkers 100% of the time, I thought I would give them a try. I didn’t want to spend any money, then find out I didn’t want to spend the time pouring lead, so after conferring with a Cat-Rat, Cattin Addict, I stopped over at his house and we poured a pile of them using his equipment. Looked simple enough, so I stole his molds and headed home.

    My Lee furnace ($59.) and Do It! molds ($29.) came from CatFish Connection,Sinker & Jig making tools knowing I would have to give Sean his molds back sooner or later. I should mention here a furnace isn’t necessary to pour lead, although I would recommend it. Twenty-pound melting pots (non heated) and a gas camp stove or even a turkey cooker burner works well for melting. Some just use a propane torch which works great for a few sinkers. I chose the furnace for ease of use, speed and the safety of not having to move hot lead with a ladle.

    I sat down and figured out my cost savings by pouring my own. Using today’s prices and lead running .35 cents a pound (wheel weights work great too and they cost less or can be obtained free, although there is more smoke, skimming involved with them) I need to make 223 three ounce sinkers or 162 four once sinkers to break even. These numbers don’t include gas or travel time to get the lead nor shipping charges for equipment or sinkers. After the equipment is paid off the cost of a 4 oz sinker will very with the cost of your lead. Currently under .09 cents each.

    Always use caution when melting lead and around hot sinkers. Lead melts at 621.4 F, but for pouring sinkers, the working temps will be between 700 and 900 degrees F. Skin melts well below these temperatures! Melting lead bought from a scrap dealer has impurities, not to mention the lead has vapors that are harmful too. Always melt your lead and make your sinkers in a well-ventilated area! Gloves are a must, protective eye wear and clothing are highly recommended.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #408956

    The above photo shows all the tools needed minus the furnace and the lead. The sinker mold, a pliers for pulling the core pins out, a home made scum spoon for skimming the impurities that float to the top of the hot lead, a needle nose pliers works best for making core pins and the 12 ga copper wire for use as core pins.

    Core pins (the wire that when pulled out of the sinker leaves the hole for the line to slide through) can be bought pre made or they can be easily made with 12 ga wire cut to length and using your needle nose pliers, bending a hook at one end.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #408957

    Once the core pins have a hook at one end, I use WD-40 to aid in removing them from the sinker.

    Most furnaces take about 20 minutes to melt the lead. Then using your scum spoon stir the molten lead, the impurities will float to the top and can easily be skimmed off. Now it’s time to heat your mold by placing it on a Mr. Heater or on your kitchen stove. Be careful if there’s small children around and that the woodened handles don’t get too hot and start smoking!

    Brian Klawitter
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    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #408958

    Once your mold is hot, place the core pins coated with WD-40 in the core holes. Keeping the mold tipped down, (if you over fill a cavity, the molten lead will trickle towards the floor and not towards your hands) lift the handle on the furnace and fill the sinker cavities. Take care to not over fill them.

    It takes seconds for the lead to solidify. Open the mold and touch the core pins help the sinkers fall out. Try not to bend them. Remember that these sinkers won’t “look” hot, but when they fall out of the mold, they will be around 600 degrees! Make sure they are dropped onto a fire proof surface, I use a stainless steel table.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #408961

    I find that pouring about 20 to 30 sinkers then stop refill the lead in the furnace to melt while I pull the core pins with pliers and a gloved hand to hold the sinkers works best for me. Break off the extra piece of lead from the sinker and you are set to go.

    These same basic instructions can be used for pouring jigs along with many other types of sinkers.

    One note about jigs, if they will be used for vertical jigging, the purity of the lead won’t matter. If using the jigs for “pitching or dragging”, I would recommend purchasing them from a quality outlet like BFishN Tackle Co.

    Quality Jigs When buying lead from a scrap yard it is very difficult to achieve the type of weight consistency needed in pitching and dragging because of the impurities in the lead which changes the weight of the jig and the depth it rides in the water.

    If you like making your own equipment and saving a few bucks in the process, you might want to try pouring your own.

    shayla
    Posts: 1399
    #408967

    Thanks so much for the post! Brings back memories of an old man I knew from Silver Bay by the name of Orville Schlafer. Orville was known up and down the north shore for doing just as you do, crafting his own lures or tying jigs. As a teen I use to hobble my rusty Datsun B210 up there and he’d show me how to pour jigs and tie em up with maribou or chenile or hair of some sort. God, that was fun! He’d usually send me on my way with a couple dozen FREE jigs (Important, back then!) and the latest NetCraft catalog. I sure do miss that old guy and your post here just reminded me of him and something all of us should try in the off months to cure our cabin fever! Thanks again for the post.

    troy seelhammer
    Chatfield, Mn
    Posts: 224
    #408978

    I worked for Do-It Molds for two years when I was in high school. They are based in Denver Ia- about two hours south of Rochester. Stop in some time when you are down there- it is fascinating how they are made. The owner is a bit crazy though- he dug a huge pond and stocked it with bullheads.

    blacksportsman
    Fridley, MN
    Posts: 156
    #408983

    Seeing how open-water cattin’ is just around the corner (as early as March for the urban kitty crew ) are there any no-roll parties on the horizon? I’ve missed the last two but I’ll be at the next one for sure should you decide to host another, as long as you plan it for Friday or Saturday.

    By the way, Happy New Year

    I know…I’m a little slow

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #408990

    Quote:


    he dug a huge pond and stocked it with bullheads.


    Fishhammer! Crazy?! That’s my kind of guy! Since bullheads are the bait of choice for trophy flatheads….I would love to have a pond full of them…All I have is a freezer converted to a holding tank!

    Manny, I don’t see one in the very near future…most everyone I know is stocked up from the last two. Maybe we can work out a “two man party” for ya.

    FYI~ We’ve had two “no-roll” Mini Get ToGethers with 3 to six people all helping each other make sinkers. It’s worked out Great…although we’ve found that it’s best not to have it on the hotest day of the year!

    troy seelhammer
    Chatfield, Mn
    Posts: 224
    #408991

    I guess it could’ve been worse- at least he didn’t put any of those unedible bass in there.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #408994

    Good point FH, not only can’t eat them darn things but they’re slimy!

    Everything in the world has been placed here for a reason…except large mouth bass… Guess that was God’s styrofoam peanuts!
    Hah! I think I’m going to pay for that comment!

    chris-tuckner
    Hastings/Isle MN
    Posts: 12318
    #409040

    Back in grade school, I would take a round sand grit demel tool, and make an impression in a piece of wood. Then I would bend a hook shank, and heat up solder with a torch and make my own stand up jigs for Mille Lacs. That was my winter job. My dad even let me sell them at his gas station in Pine City. That and trapping muskrats and fox kept me in minnow money!

    bret_clark
    Sparta, WI
    Posts: 9362
    #409143

    I’ve been witlin’ some new clonking sticks

    Mr. Briank, if you dudes are ever short one for pourin’ lead, I’ll bring beer

    Brian Klawitter
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    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
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    #409185

    Quote:


    I’ve been witlin’ some new clonking sticks


    I’ve heard that about you…you make ’em out of “fruit wood”…I bet…

    Sorry, Brett…sorta…

    sliderfishn
    Blaine, MN
    Posts: 5432
    #409254

    I have been making my own jigs for years. It really makes the winter go by a little faster.
    One thing that I have learned is to soot the mold cavities with a candle. Covering the mold with soot makes getting the lead out of the molds easier. It also makes the lead flow better so you get a better looking product. NOT like you cat guys care just look at those fish that you chase.
    You want to talk about ugly.

    Ron

    Brian Klawitter
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    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #409255

    Now Slider…don’t make me get my mirror out!

    Actually I haven’t had a problem dropping the sinkers out. Now pulling the pins out is another story. WD-40 works good, wheel bearing grease works better…although more time consuming, smokes more and if I use too much there’s a bit of grease on the bottom of the sinker around the hole.

    If I don’t use enough WD-40 or grease…whew, it’s tough to pull a pin out of a 4 oz sinker!

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #409292

    Quote:


    PS I was just kidding about the mirror…actually, you’re kinda cute.


    What happens in the cat forum should stay in the cat forum.

    Brian Klawitter
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    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
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    #409294

    FYI~ SF is a good guy, he can take a joke or two….in fact, I should post the pm he sent me the otherday…opps! Can’t do that! Family site!

    bret_clark
    Sparta, WI
    Posts: 9362
    #409296

    What happens in the cat forum should stay in the cat forum.


    You know it James We are not about to kiss and tell Right BrianK

    bill_cadwell
    Rochester, Minnesota
    Posts: 12607
    #409302

    Quote:



    What happens in the cat forum should stay in the cat forum.


    You know it James We are not about to kiss and tell Right BrianK


    I hope not, the kiss part anyway.

    Brian Klawitter
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    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #409305

    Sorry guys…I’m not ashamed or embarressed to say that I kiss things with whiskers! Right Cattin Addict?!

    cattinaddict
    Catfish country
    Posts: 419
    #409368

    gotta keep the cat gods happy….kiss a kitty and you are guarenteed good luck the next time out…plus kitty slime instantly cures any minor cuts/scratchs, cold sores, back pains, sore knees….or maybe that is just the rush of landing a piggy , you forget everything else

    bret_clark
    Sparta, WI
    Posts: 9362
    #409555

    Quote:


    gotta keep the cat gods happy….kiss a kitty and you are guarenteed good luck the next time out…plus kitty slime instantly cures any minor cuts/scratchs, cold sores, back pains, sore knees….or maybe that is just the rush of landing a piggy , you forget everything else


    Yep, you could almost wet yourself and not even know it

    sliderfishn
    Blaine, MN
    Posts: 5432
    #409642

    Quote:


    Quote:


    PS I was just kidding about the mirror…actually, you’re kinda cute.


    What happens in the cat forum should stay in the cat forum.


    I was thinking the same thing James. I was not even going to acknowledge that post

    Ron

    tyler_holm
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 260
    #438787

    Thank – You for the article Brian.

    Brian Klawitter
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    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
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    #438876

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #656949

    Bump to the way top….it’s getting time guys…I can smell it in the air!!

    larry_haugh
    MN
    Posts: 1767
    #656973

    Quote:


    I can smell it in the air!!


    The only thing I’m smelling is my frozen nose hairs today. OUCH.
    Soon though oooohhhhhhhhh so soon.

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