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As far as Hanson’s break offs. Wasn’t that determined to be a bad batch of line. We know it would never be due to operator error.
It was a learning experience, thats for sure. The fish showed me who’s boss that day and I haven’t forgot it.
Dave finally caught the one that got me 3 days later, it was 35lbs.
There was nothing wrong with that spool of power pro! 
.. and there was no obstuctions in either of those fights to factor in.. Hanson just learned that the drag gets really tight on a Epixor 65 series reel, 9′ Reflex rods are incredibly strong(and scary when bent that far!), 50# line can make a nice *crack* when it breaks, and fish over 30#’s will break 50# line like nothing on a run!
But he sure thought he was invinceable with it… for the 1st 3 minutes
The leader we recovered from the fish, the line was broken a short distance from the swivel.. the knots were excellent. That fish probably traveled 15′ before breaking him off.. obstructions had nothing to do with losing those fish that day.
Yes, it was operator error on too much drag at the stage of the fight he was in. The area we were fishing is known for serious debris, it would have been difficult for him to land the fish regardless on 50# PP if the fish ran into the wrong area… the point is, it was obvious he couldnt stop the fish, even if he wanted to with the proper gear, and too light of line. 50# line will not stop a fish over 30# on a dead run even if your rod is capable.
If there are no obstrutions around, 50# will work.. if snags, or any type of abbrasive surface is around, go at least #80 if your using super line, or spool with heavy mono.
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Maybe we should have a birds-nest contest on April one. I happen to think there isn’t a birds-nest I can’t get untangled.
I have no patience for backlashes. I am a cutter.
With the cost of PP you are going to be one poor newlywed if you cut your backlashes Ryan!
Dave – have noticed that when trying to pull free a snag with PP it breaks pretty easily since it does not stretch. Feels like it takes less than 50 lbs of force to break it.
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There was nothing wrong with that spool of power pro!
Yes, it was operator error on too much drag at the stage of the fight he was in. The area we were fishing is known for serious debris, it would have been difficult for him to land the fish regardless on 50# PP if the fish ran into the wrong area… the point is, it was obvious he couldnt stop the fish, even if he wanted to with the proper gear, and too light of line. 50# line will not stop a fish over 30# on a dead run even if your rod is capable.
If there are no obstrutions around, 50# will work.. if snags, or any type of abbrasive surface is around, go at least #80 if your using super line, or spool with heavy mono.
50# test is designed for bass fishermen
And there we have it. The No Mercy call….. it as it is. 
I stand corrected by an eye witness expert. Sorry Hanson just trying to give you the benifit of the doubt. 
Just so you guys know I’m being slowly converted on the upgrade.
I’m spooling 1 reel for now with 65lb PP. I might raise the other to 80lb. Want to see how the 65lb performs.
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With the cost of PP you are going to be one poor newlywed if you cut your backlashes Ryan!
Most of the time I am backlash free. I don’t ever think I’ve had a backlash in my cat reels. I get them on occasion bass fishing, usually when trying to throw light lures into the wind, but they usually aren’t bad enough to cut.
I hate spinning tackle, so I’ve developed a pretty good thumb over the years. I can even cast pretty well with either hand.
Larry, can I make a suggestion? Skip the 65…go with 80.
If you want to mess around and try something differant..try the RED 80 lbs PP. 
I really have to agree with Brian, especially if its on a baitcaster. The 65# will cast a little bit better, and have a hair less current drag, but it doesnt outweigh the extra abbrasion resistance of 80# vs 65#. 80# is just he way to go unless its for a spinning reel, then the 65# tends to cast much better, and is considerably more spining reel friendly.
Dfresh, what type of knots are you using? The only way your line will be breaking easily is if your line is scraping an abrasive surface while under load.
You also must consider there is no stretch.. your not pulling and stretching the line until you hit the breaking point… by the time your linemoves, it either came out of the snag, or broke.
I have yet to see any super line hold up to its rated strength on a scale.. swivels or hooks usually fail 1st. Super lines they rate the break strength at actual break strength, mono lines on the other hand usually break at a much higher poundage than actual line strength rating. So, if 40# mono has an actual break strength of 50#, and 40′ of 40# mono line had to stretch 7′ before it was stretched beyond its limits… compare that to PP that wont stretch an inch in 40′.. which line do you think is going to break 1st on an oversized fish with an improper drag setting? I guarantee it will be the superline every time.
There are advantages, and disadvantages to every line. To me, I prefer the super lines for the best performance, bite detection, and hook setting power…
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I find myself spooling more mono back onto some of my rigs for the abbrasion resistence, and visibility. Its a heck of a lot easier tying on nuclear green line to a hook in the middle of the night than it is to see low visibility power pro.
Dave – call me old fashioned, but I rock the old tried and true Palomar without exception.
The line usually breaks somewhere above the swivel when I break on a snag. I am totally familiar with the breaking point of PP and am very knowledgeable that I am going to lose some expensive terminal tackle when I try to pull out of some snags. Sometimes there is nothing else to do but gamble that you can pull it. Am I wrong?
When your snagged, your snagged..
Some of us carry a dowel(sp?) rod for that purpose with power pro. Wrap the line around the heavy dowel rod a few times and give a steady pull. Its easier on your hands, reel, or rod.
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Dave – call me old fashioned, but I rock the old tried and true Palomar without exception.
Stick with the palomar. I tested just about every knot you could imagine last spring and the palomar was by far the best with 80lb PP.
I agree. With braided lines it can’t be beat.
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