Catfish Techniques/How To Catch Em

  • bill_cadwell
    Rochester, Minnesota
    Posts: 12607
    #1219545

    Now that most everyone has put the Catin rods away for awhile I thought this would be a good time to ask everyone just how you guys go about catching your Cats? I’m not asking for spots. Just techniques, rods, reels, line, sinkers, bait, type of structures/holes etc., to help others including guys new to Catin on how to go about catchin those cats. Talkin about your favorite ways and sharing tales of your catches can be a great way to pass the winter by. I look forward to and will very much appreciate any and all of your Catin skills and Cat catchin stories that you guys will share.
    Thanks, Bill

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #401082

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    Now that most everyone has put the Catin rods away for awhile


    Ummm, Bill? I haven’t put my catten rods away….Just cleaning them up a bit. I’m using Dawn and warm water to clean the handles and rods…paying close attention to the guides for “Super Line Wear”. Pulled off the “frayed” 10 feet of line and looped the line around the handle, then loosen the drag as much a possible.

    My channel rods and ice rods are another story…With temps the way they’ve been, I’ll he heading up to Horseshoe Lake soon with the 3 man, and MarCum LX-3 looking for those chili channels…then in late Feb. March, I’m going to be looking forward to some open water channel fishing with a friend or two…

    So I guess your right, some rods are put away…some rods are getting ready.

    There was a fella that sent a bucket of stink bait for me to try this year…I have to look him up…Seems to me he did real well with bait other than cut bait.

    bill_cadwell
    Rochester, Minnesota
    Posts: 12607
    #401227

    Brian, what do you think of the stinkbaits? Do they come close to catching as many fish as cutbait will? Would be interested in what others think too. Also has anyone had any luck with using shiner minnows with cutting the head and tali off and using the middle part of the bait? Worms? You guys are the Catin Pros here so I’m sure many others along with I would love to hear about how to get more involved with Catfishing, different ways of catching them from guys who are good at catching them [you guys] and anything/everything you can share to help improve peoples catin outtings and also draw interest to catfishing. Someone had to share at one time with you guys and now is your chance to give something back to others to help them become better Catfishermen. Thanks.
    Thanks, Bill

    david_scott
    Twin Cities
    Posts: 2946
    #401654

    Bill … Fishing for cats can be just as involved as fishing for walleyes. Its not as simple as putting some chicken liver on the hook and tossing it in the water with a bunch of bait.

    The locations and presentations will change with the seasons, sometimes by the week. The very early season(march) it will start by targeting fish in their wintering holes, wherever that might be. It could be below a dam, near warm water discharge, in deeper slack water… its going to be somewhere the fish dont have to spend much energy, and have an ample supply of food for a large number of fish. Channel cats are the target that early in the year, and they get in big schools in the cold water.

    Early season channels(surface temps from 33 to 45 degrees) will still be schooled up in, or near wintering holes as stated above. You must locate the fish and present the bait within the school or you wont catch anything.. if your bait is 30′ away, your not getting bit and the guy next to you is going to catch 30 fish. The bait selection this time of year is small comparing to warm water. My standard bait is 1 1/2 fatheads(fresh, live) on a #2 hook rigged lindy rig style, the fresh bait usually works best… once in a while slightly more rancid(not rotten) bait will work a little better than fresh, RARELY. The amount of weight will be dictated by the depth, or by the distance you need to cast while shore fishing. Lighter gear with lighter line seems to work best on the early season fish, this also allows you to use lighter weights for casting a distance(if needed). Small, light presentations are best early.

    Water temp 45-52 degrees… The fish become more active by the day(and start to fight harder). The fish will start to wander furter out of the schools, or pursue baits further away. Large channels will start to take live suckers(small to medium) while trying to catch the 1st flathead of the year. The bait of choice is still small, but the fish are feeding heavily… hard not to catch a fish at this point in half way stable weather. The flatheads will start to bite regularly in temps of about 50 degrees, but can show up any time the water hits the mid 40’s.

    52-60 degrees… the fish are feeding actively and cruising for food near their intering holes. The Flaheads will start to feed heavily near their spawning areas, and will be schooled up for the most part(at least where I fish). Flatheads seem to like the suckers early, then will shift to a bullhead bite in the mid 50 degree water.. big channels will take your suckers regularly.

    60 degrees to the spawn.. The channels slow down before the flats do. The flatheads will feed very well, but show scarring from digging out the spawning beds.. fish will look more beat up every day, but will feed good until they spawn.

    After the spawn, the channels will still feed moderately. Bait choices get larger with a 1″ – 1 1/2″ chunk of fresh meat on the hook being my prefered bait on a 3/0 circle hook. The flatheads seem to dissapear for a while with an occasional fish popping up here and there… this usually happens around the beginning of July.. depending on weather and water temps.

    I think this is pretty accurate for the 1st half of the year… or until the flathead spawn(early/mid summer). From that point they seem to grab your bait once in a while, swim with it for 3 feet holding onto it wherever the hook is not.. and they wait for you to set the hook and rip the hook out.. THEN they eat it, and you put a fresh bait on.

    I didnt cover flathead equipment a all.. but a standard amongst many is a heavy rod of choise with a high capacity, dependable reel spooled with 65#-80# power pro(or super line similar), or mono up to about #30.. anything larger diameter than that you may as well spool your anchor rope. Terminal tackle for flatheads will vary on the size of your bait, amount of current, and line diameter in current(large diameter line has more current drag and usually takes more weight to peg bait). Hooks will run from 4/0 on small baits to 10/0 on larger baits and for bullheads(small hooks tend to hook back into the bullhead).

    Channel cat gear will vary greatly. 1 oz, sometimes less in the spring for weight.. depends how far you need to cast, or current to fight… to 3-4 oz when the fish are holding in current swept areas in the summer and you have to cast cross current with a medium size bait. I never use a hook larger than 5/0 for channels int he brands of hook I personaly use for channels.

    Rods and reels.. I wouldnt know where to begin. I have at least 12 here that are all different for the purpose of fishing cats. I fish more from shore than in the boat. Most of my equipment is balanced to have incredible casting distance(anyone who fishes with me can verify that).. but is very capable of playing out large fish. Other rods I have are to winch fish out of whatever hole, snag, or debris they are trying to get into.

    Are you sure you want to get into catfishing? Come up here this spring when the fishing is *on*.. everything else will look like bait after a few outings.

    bill_cadwell
    Rochester, Minnesota
    Posts: 12607
    #401808

    WOW! Thanks Dave. Thats alot of information. Most of the catfishing I would do would be on Lake/River Zumbro by Rochester with a weight of 3-10 lbs. I have seen pics of a few alot bigger but I’m a rookie at Cats so I expect that kind of catches. Reality. lol. I missed alot of fishing in 2004 due to a big flare up of old back injuries so this year I had alot to make up for. Next year I want to fish even more and a good way to do that is to fish for different kinds of fish between walleye outtings. This year I hit the panfish hard between eye times. Next year I want to add cats and bass. I want to fish more and fishing close to home for different species will help to make that happen. Thanks for all the info. It will come in very handy. Thanks. I can’t handle the real big ones you guys catch due to my back and neck injuries as they are too heavy so my cats will be kitties compared to yours. But I and everyone else can learn from what you guys are willing to share with the rest of us. Each of you probably has their own style/speciality of fishing cats to some different degree so it would be very much appreciated if others would share how they catch their cats.
    Thanks, Bill

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #401850

    …and good info Bill. Fisher Dave is also known as the Urban Catman (although he does very will with urban Walleyes, Muskies, Sunnies and my favorite Bullheads under 7 inches )

    I would doubt that you could find many others with his experiance on fishing for Cat’s and catching cats in the metro area.

    It’s funny, I was telling him I normally fish wood and he was saying he normally fishes cement and water heaters!

    Good Post Dave. Hope your keeping the Fisher Family warm!

    Photo above is Fisher Dave and Fisher Tylor. If I’m not mistaken…FT schooled FD that night….

    david_scott
    Twin Cities
    Posts: 2946
    #401877

    I think I got scooled that night by Tyler too…

    What can I say? Thats my boy!

    It wont be long before he is schooling all of us in the world of cats at least. He turns 5 next month and aready has more cats under his belt than most kids have sunfish.

    Oh well.. if I am lucky, when I am old and gray… my boy can take me out on the river for catfish outings like I did for my dad before his time came. Its was some of the best times we had ever spent together!

    bill_cadwell
    Rochester, Minnesota
    Posts: 12607
    #401896

    Nothing better than seeing a child fishing. I’m hoping my youngest son Nate will take me out when I’m too old to climb in a boat by myself [many many years Brian, lol] but he will probably just take my tackle and run. Could resist that one as his computer is shot [struck by lightening] so he can’t defend himself on here right now. If anyone knows of a used computer for sale cheap please let me know. He needs computer and monitor. Thanks. Yep, when he’s older he will be kickin your behind like Nate usually does mine in fishing and you know what? – Thats great! Love it when your child and grandkids are that turned on to fishing.
    Thanks, Bill

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #401942

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    I’m hoping my youngest son Nate will take me out when I’m too old to climb in a boat by myself [many many years Brian, lol]


    You know me too well!

    bill_cadwell
    Rochester, Minnesota
    Posts: 12607
    #402120

    You know me too well!


    Yes I do Bud. Now its your turn to share your techniques on how you go about catchin cats.

    Thanks, Bill

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