I’m an idiot and can’t figure it out. Had the same problem last year, finally decided to ask for help.
Coming out of red door, we’d like to put our shack somewhere on the second break. I see one straight out from red door where the depth drops from 8 to 21, after that are the flats.
Is that really the second break and I’m missing the first one? Could we essentially just follow that breakline east to west and just setup towards the bottom of it?
Typically the second break on Mille Lacs bottoms out at 29-35′. Farther north and east it is 29′. Farther west probably 31-32′. Not exactly sure what they are talking about but I would find the steepest area that fall to those depths.
I agree with biggill. I think of the second break basically the last slope to the basin. In the Red Door area, that would be 26-29′ approx.
first break is rocks to sand, second break would have some rocks mixed with the sand and yes look for that deeper area, but not really a drop off vs. a transition.
first break is rocks to sand, second break would have some rocks mixed with the sand and yes look for that deeper area, but not really a drop off vs. a transition.
I’m not sure where your talking about but most that north shore is all sand and then drops to sand muck at the break. FWIW, I am not aware of any secondary break off the north shore that would have any significance as far as fishing structure.
I agree with Gil and Lindy. I always determined “breaks” as depth transitions not bottom structure.
well I’d best keep out of this and keep those “rubble spots” at the second break a secret! There’s only bullheads there anyways!
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first break is rocks to sand, second break would have some rocks mixed with the sand and yes look for that deeper area, but not really a drop off vs. a transition.I’m not sure where your talking about but most that north shore is all sand and then drops to sand muck at the break. FWIW, I am not aware of any secondary break off the north shore that would have any significance as far as fishing structure.
Around this time every year Red Door always talks about fishing picking up off the second break in their fishing report and I’ve never been able to decipher it. Once their ice road gets going people always ask if they are out past the second break yet as well…
Around this time every year Red Door always talks about fishing picking up off the second break in their fishing report and I’ve never been able to decipher it. Once their ice road gets going people always ask if they are out past the second break yet as well…
It’s right where I said it was. I just got back from Red Door – they have their houses on the 2nd break.
Break refers to Breakline – which is depth change, not bottom composition.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>crappieguy wrote:</div>
Around this time every year Red Door always talks about fishing picking up off the second break in their fishing report and I’ve never been able to decipher it. Once their ice road gets going people always ask if they are out past the second break yet as well…It’s right where I said it was. I just got back from Red Door – they have their houses on the 2nd break.
Break refers to Breakline – which is depth change, not bottom composition.
Thanks Lindyrig!
well I’d best keep out of this and keep those “rubble spots” at the second break a secret! There’s only bullheads there anyways!
Okay, I will not dispute. I have floated my boat all along that north shore and have seen little if any “first break is rocks to sand, second break would have some rocks mixed with the sand”?
Mostly all sand from the shoreline out from Malmo to past Wealthwood and all along the infamous north shore beaches. There is an isolated rock pile east of Red Door worth checking out.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>crappieguy wrote:</div>
Around this time every year Red Door always talks about fishing picking up off the second break in their fishing report and I’ve never been able to decipher it. Once their ice road gets going people always ask if they are out past the second break yet as well…It’s right where I said it was. I just got back from Red Door – they have their houses on the 2nd break.
Break refers to Breakline – which is depth change, not bottom composition.
I can see it on the topo map. That would be an area that would be bypassed open water, as the first sand break would be the muskie/pike trolling milk run and then everyone else would be running to the flats for walleye.
I have only fished that area open water. I’ll find out more as you say. Just got back from fishing the east side and will turnaround and go back out of Red Door Friday through the weekend with a couple grandsons participating in fund raising event. Hoping the grandsons will see a Mille Lacs walleye. 
I think my problem is reading the map, I can really only distinguish one major break out front of red door, starts at 6 feet and quickly moves down to 21’ and that break seems to follow most of the shoreline. Is that the second break and the first is technically shoreline to 6’? There is somewhat of a 6-7’ flat in front of their launch if you’d call it that.
Many lakes there isn’t really a defined secondary break, more so that goes around the whole lake.
Here’s a pic of my take on a secondary break, usually in that 20-30′ range. This is from Leech out from Sugar Point. The first break on that lake goes almost right from shore in that area.
If you see reports of catching fish on a secondary break, IMO that defines an area pretty well bc like you said, that north end from a typical angler doesn’t really see any true break, except for some spots 
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Hey Chomps I love fishing Bullhead! If you would be willing to share those GPS coordinates I would love to fish them
I think my problem is reading the map, I can really only distinguish one major break out front of red door, starts at 6 feet and quickly moves down to 21’ and that break seems to follow most of the shoreline. Is that the second break and the first is technically shoreline to 6’? There is somewhat of a 6-7’ flat in front of their launch if you’d call it that.
Well I must have the same problem as you crappieguy as I am also having a hard time figuring out what area they are referring to. I am not trying to argue just for the sake of arguing as Lindyrig79 says it is right there, right where he says it is. I’ll still don’t see it? The break from the shoreline is very gradual (hardly an actual break) to about 9 feet and then it drops to 20 feet. An obvious break. Then after that, very gradual again out to the flat.
Here is a map of the actual subject area. Secondary break…where art thou?
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To me, in your attachment i see two features that could be described as breaks. The first is the drop along the bank, the second is that 10 to 18 or 19 fow. Everything beyond that is very flat and slow taper, would refer it as a “flat”
To me, in your attachment i see two features that could be described as breaks. The first is the drop along the bank, the second is that 10 to 18 or 19 fow. Everything beyond that is very flat and slow taper, would refer it as a “flat”
Exactly what I’m thinking, the first break is essentially the shore line
It varies around the lake, so there is some variance here.
But, to answer the question in this particular map, out from Red Door. The first break would be the 10-19 ft range. Then, if you look directly out from Red Door, the 21-23 ft range is pretty flat. Then, the 24-28 ft range is the second break. Sure, it’s gradual, but that’s what is referred to as the second break.
After the second break, you hit the basin. And from the basin, out to the Mudflats.
On that same map, if you look to the West, the second break starts more at 25ft (the 24 ft area is more flat over there)
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