Hadn’t used my Traditions muzzeloader for years and apparently I didnt clean it at some point and the breech plug got stuck. After trying all the tricks, shearing the rear sight off, and finally $80 later it shall return soon all repaired.
In the past I have always just diligently cleaned it after use and not put anything on the plug, and used bore butter on the barrel. Is there something else I should be using on the plug when I put it back in?
I have been there to and have used automotive ant seize it works great and does not cost alot
The stick anti-seize linked here isn’t bad but can be messy. I use nothing but a couple wraps of white plumber’s tape on my plugs that require a tool to remove. The quick release breech plugs require nothing, but the tape helps seal them up well without using a lot of pressure to tighten..
I just use the T/C stuff. comes in a small tube. No issues at all.
DT
I’ve used this with good luck:
That’s what I use.
Never a problem.
I have always used bore butter on my breech plug after cleaning and
before putting it away for the season and never a problem. I just tighten it finger tight when I put it away also.
That being said, if you put it away for an extended period of time without cleaning it after use I don’t know that anything can stop the corrosive power of black powder.
I have always used bore butter on my breech plug after cleaning and
before putting it away for the season and never a problem. I just tighten it finger tight when I put it away also.That being said, if you put it away for an extended period of time without cleaning it after use I don’t know that anything can stop the corrosive power of black powder.
The only thing I’d use bore butter for is as a lube for a patched round ball.
Sabots need zero lubricant and bore butter in any area where ignition is happening will make a mess sooner or later. The tape is a better alternative. The tape also does the same thing the anti-sieze is designed to do.
As for the cleaning, Sticker is dead on. If one is using black powder, Pyrodex, Tripe 7, powder or pellet or any of the other pellet products, you’re using extremely corrosive products and cleaning is not something to put off for a day. Using any of the above products, if a shot is make at a deer one day, that gun needs to get the full cleaning that night. Not the next day or the next as corrosion will have already gotten started. The Blackhorn 209 powder is much more forgiving in that a guy can wait for a week without seeing any ill effects but not much longer.
I think I’ve shot every sub powder or pellet available and can’t say that I will ever go back to them after using the Blackhorn powder. The blue pellets and white hots are nothing more than T7….the chemical make-up of each is very close to identical and they’re all going to make a crud ring if using primer ignition. They’ll all create the crud ring using the #11 caps and musket caps, but it takes a couple more shots to develop.
Tindall, that muzzy of yours is Blackhorn 209 capable and I’d really suggest you try it in lieu of these other subs. I think you’d like it. I’ll also offer that since we’re discussing the breech plug, you find a breech plug cleaning tool set and use it at each cleaning. Primers will carbon the flame channel and flame hole up especially with the subs as well as the blackhorn. There’s more to cleaning than you may think and if ignored can create hang-fires or dud shots, both of which can be dangerous.
The only thing I’d use bore butter for is as a lube for a patched round ball.
Sabots need zero lubricant and bore butter in any area where ignition is happening will make a mess sooner or later. The tape is a better alternative. The tape also does the same thing the anti-sieze is designed to do.
For the record, I only put bore butter on the threads of the breech plug that lead into the breech and I am very careful not to get it anywhere else on the breech plug. I also coat the inside of the barrel with for storage, but only on the threads of the breech plug.
Its the inside of the barrel that I won’t allow in any of my bp guns. This stuff coats the metal and lays down a film that even solvent based cleaners cannot fully remove in a single cleaning, let alone a couple quick passes prior to loading. When this gets “shot in” it can problematic down the road when hunting conditions create a whole new set of circumstances anfd follow-up shots get tough to load. Broken jags, broken loading tips, broken rods are but a few of the field issues this stuff can create.
Lots of folks think its a lube for sabots when sabots are designed to be shot and loaded dry. Sabots would include the powerbelts. Full-bore lead minis and maxis come with a lubricant already applied so they need nothing extra. People who are moxie enough to cast their own conicals will have lubes specifically made for those bullets. I really don’t know why this stuff is sold as it has such a limit use for today’s muzzle loader shooter.
Your plug threads don’t benefit at all from the butter product but if you feel it helps with removal I won’t tell you something is better. As for the barrel, I’d never, ever put that stuff inside any of mine.
By the way sticker, that’s a nice buck you got.
Can you leave the breach plug out? I leave mine out. Doesn’t seem to be an issue when I need to put it back in?
Used a dab of anti seize for years , never had an issue
Thanks everyone!
I would like to learn more about the newer powders and such. This was the first deer gun my dad bought me in the early 1990’s. I was only intrigued by black powder, but in hindsight it was probably pretty advantageous that I could shoot a rifled .50cal with a scope in shotgun country. It was bullet shaped shots for the first several years before I heard about sabots. I shot my first half dozen deer with it which is why it went to the gunsmith to be saved. I won’t have a serial or model # until I get it back.
I only got it out because a buddy wanted to borrow it, but maybe it is time to try again. I sort of feel that Midwest and rifles have spoiled the experience a bit, even though almost all my deer are still one shot.
I only hunt black powder. I haven’t needed more than one shot in over 25 years, largely because having only one shot and knowing it made me a more consistent hunter.
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