Big Water Boats

  • Walleyestudent Andy Cox
    Garrison MN-Mille Lacs
    Posts: 4484
    #1790833

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Kyle Wills wrote:</div>
    Big water for me is Mille Lacs.

    Been fishing Mille Lacs 30+ years. Give me ANY aluminum boat and I can pretty much total it in one weekend. They just can’t stand up to the pounding that lake dishes out.

    -J.

    Yes…I have heard what you are capable of out there Jon.

    If you ever think about trying again, come on over to the west side out in front of the Harbor Inn to put on your show.

    Let me know when and I’ll get a group together to watch from the bar. When the show’s over, come on in and I’ll buy you a beer. jester

    Charles
    Posts: 1950
    #1790846

    Well I like my 04′ 1750 fishhawk, work perfect on the white fish chain, been in about 3′ swells out there just have to learn how drive your not going fast but you will get there safe.

    Dan Baker
    Posts: 931
    #1790923

    I have a Bayliner 175 and my buddy has an Alumacraft Trophy 175. Same length, but his has a wider beam. The ride quality is significantly better in his boat. I have been on Mille Lacs in both boats on days of 15 MPH winds with 3-4 foot rollers. The Alumacraft was WAY more comfortable.

    The SCRATCHER
    spring valley mn
    Posts: 734
    #1790927

    surely don’t buy a new Larson f x glass we about swampted one on mille lac taking waves after wave over bow had so much water bildge pump blew breaker and no more water going out just more coming in! I believe it was a 19′ with a 300 hp Evinrude oh I should mention storm blew in with up near 40 mph winds and 6′ rollers

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16658
    #1790941

    I can only imagine what that Lund would look like with a couple 72″ stainless rails, a bunch of Humminbirds and a couple of pilots chairs. Might be able to handle the moderate size water of Minnesota.

    Hot Runr Guy
    West Chicago, IL
    Posts: 1933
    #1790942

    I can only imagine what that Lund would look like with a couple 60″ stainless rails, a bunch of Humminbirds and a couple of pilots chairs. Might be able to handle the moderate size water of Minnesota.

    I hope to see it at the GTG in early October,,,,,

    HRG

    Ryan Speers
    Waconia, MN
    Posts: 509
    #1790946

    I concur with the advice to size your boat to your home water and then fish the larger bodies as the weather allows.

    I made the mistake of going too big. While I loved the boat, it made fishing my local waters miserable. So I bit the financial bullet and sold it to move down to a smaller boat. I’ve been out more this year because it’s enjoyable again.

    billy03z71
    Posts: 130
    #1790955

    Alumacraft lunker v16 tiler for me. Does great on the smaller lakes around where I live and have had it on winnie in some nice size rollers and wasn’t to scared!

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    Charles
    Posts: 1950
    #1791193

    Yeah I like smaller boats like this one in Cross Lake, There are bigger version of this up in this neck of the woods.

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    sticker
    StillwaterMN/Ottertail county
    Posts: 4418
    #1791275

    Find yourself a used Warrior 1890 tiller and you will never be sorry. Plenty of boat for ML or Red and the ride is incredible!

    philtickelson
    Inactive
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 1678
    #1791583

    Yeah I like smaller boats like this one in Cross Lake, There are bigger version of this up in this neck of the woods.

    I’d be worried to roll with only three axles on the trailer though, I’ve found its much easier to tow with four or five.

    Charles
    Posts: 1950
    #1791620

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Charles wrote:</div>
    Yeah I like smaller boats like this one in Cross Lake, There are bigger version of this up in this neck of the woods.

    I’d be worried to roll with only three axles on the trailer though, I’ve found its much easier to tow with four or five.

    LOL

    pool2fool
    Inactive
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 1709
    #1791623

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>philtickelson wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Charles wrote:</div>
    Yeah I like smaller boats like this one in Cross Lake, There are bigger version of this up in this neck of the woods.

    I’d be worried to roll with only three axles on the trailer though, I’ve found its much easier to tow with four or five.

    LOL

    The bearing buddies on a three-axle trailer cost more than I paid for my boat. yay

    Charles
    Posts: 1950
    #1791657

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Charles wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>philtickelson wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Charles wrote:</div>
    Yeah I like smaller boats like this one in Cross Lake, There are bigger version of this up in this neck of the woods.

    I’d be worried to roll with only three axles on the trailer though, I’ve found its much easier to tow with four or five.

    LOL

    The bearing buddies on a three-axle trailer cost more than I paid for my boat. yay

    And that is small boat for us up here, let say that my fish hawk does good 4′ waves when they come cursing by.

    #1795991

    I agree with most of the thoughts on size, type of boat. I fish primarily Lake Michigan with a Crestliner 18.5 Canadian. I too watch the forecast carefully and don’t go out when I know it will be too rough (3′ plus waves). I have also fished Lake Winnebago, which is a lot like the bigger lakes as you have described. Watching the weather is most important whatever kind or size of boat you are in.

    I am an avid You-tube junkie also, I would recommend to all boat owners, to watch some videos on how to handle a boat in waves. In particular, bar crossings. I understand that you and I probably will never have to cross a bar, but the proper handling of your boat in waves is extremely important. Too slow and the wave coming up from behind can turn you upside down. Too fast and you will be pounding yourself and your equipment.

    Fiber glass vs aluminum? I guess that you will have to make the decision for yourself. Well made boats come with hull thicknesses and bracing that will handle any type of water well. There are plenty of both types which are poorly designed and will fail. There are plenty of wood floors in fiber glass boats too. Take good care of wood floors. Take the time to research the thickness and bracing design that goes into the hull of either type. Fiber glass can, and will, crack and so will aluminum. Fiber glass is much easier to repair, and less costly.
    The ride of aluminum is, generally more rough than that of fiber glass as the aluminum hulled boats are generally lighter than fiber glass. This causes the boat to be tossed about a bit more. But, it will rise more quickly in oncoming waves too. The fiber glass with it’s weight will generally be more stable and cut into waves more. BOTH will fail when handled roughly in waves. Another point that comes along with this argument is trailering. The lighter aluminum hull is much more pleasant to pull than it’s counterpart.

    Another consideration that you may want to make is the layout of your boat. If you are planning to land the bulk of your walleyes from over the transom, then you will want to have a boat where the distance between the floor and the transom is shorter, so you can stand on the floor instead of climbing on the rear deck and/or ‘hugging’ the motor with your legs. far better to be standing on the floor especially in wave action. If I were to upgrade, I would definitely want a walk-through windshield, and a larger floor area between the windshield and the stern.

    One last comment, to the fellow who will run a boat so hard as to ‘destroy it in a weekend’, I NEVER would want to be in a boat where you are the operator. Hull design/type was never meant to make amends for someone who beats his equipment and passengers like that. Must be nice to have lots of money to keep replacing stuff when it is beaten to death.

    Hope this will help, good luck in your search.

    Dean Marshall
    Chippewa Falls WI /Ramsey MN
    Posts: 5854
    #1796071

    Couple thoughts to add….

    Width means stable…. absolutely! Does width mean best big water ride? Absolutely not !

    What is “bigwater’ to one person, may or may not mean the same to everyone.

    I encourage you to actually drive multiple boats on what you define as “big water”. I have owned multiple brands of quality aluminum hulls that I felt more than comfortable with in “to me” big water.
    However, that was once or twice a year, my main focus was how I used that boat on my home water of pool 4 & lake pepin.

    tomr
    cottage grove, mn
    Posts: 1279
    #1796113

    Been fishing Mille Lacs 30+ years. Give me ANY aluminum boat and I can pretty much total it in one weekend. They just can’t stand up to the pounding that lake dishes out.

    -J.

    Please enter the kfan preposterous statement contest because you will surely win. Been fishing Mille lacs in the same 1993 sylvan aluminum boat and it takes the pounding very well. Also the wood floor and transom have shown no signs of rot yet.

    Walleyestudent Andy Cox
    Garrison MN-Mille Lacs
    Posts: 4484
    #1796121

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Jon Jordan wrote:</div>
    Been fishing Mille Lacs 30+ years. Give me ANY aluminum boat and I can pretty much total it in one weekend. They just can’t stand up to the pounding that lake dishes out.

    -J.

    Please enter the kfan preposterous statement contest because you will surely win. Been fishing Mille lacs in the same 1993 sylvan aluminum boat and it takes the pounding very well. Also the wood floor and transom have shown no signs of rot yet.

    I think Jon was being a bit sarcastic or maybe more a little sprinkle of humor he may have intended. Not sure to what extent though, he did in fact sink a fairly new boat opening weekend out there some years back. blush

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1796124

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Jon Jordan wrote:</div>
    Been fishing Mille Lacs 30+ years. Give me ANY aluminum boat and I can pretty much total it in one weekend. They just can’t stand up to the pounding that lake dishes out.

    -J.

    Please enter the kfan preposterous statement contest because you will surely win. Been fishing Mille lacs in the same 1993 sylvan aluminum boat and it takes the pounding very well. Also the wood floor and transom have shown no signs of rot yet.

    What you don’t know is that Jon is actually Stevo from Jackass.

    eyeguy507
    SE MN
    Posts: 5215
    #1796167

    you guys are too spoiled with glass and aluminum. The natives go out there netting in wooden canoes and they are just fine. sounds like a bunch of babies in here arguing over spilled milk

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