Better stock up on plastics

  • Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10428
    #2202392

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    ganderpike
    Alexandria
    Posts: 1095
    #2202398

    When 11:45PM rolls around and you gotta wait 15 min to fish, it really hits ya how dumb it is to close a season for fishing. Between that and AIS bait laws, MN is a clownshow state

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10428
    #2215990

    The future of live bait currently does not look good.

    This is in the paper today.

    CLITHERALL, Minn. – Pick a day, any day. The legion of anglers who fish in Minnesota want more minnows than the state’s live bait trappers can provide.

    “I’ve got orders for 75 gallons today and I’ve only got 25 gallons to give,” Marshall Koep said as he prepared to launch his minnow-trapping boat onto a pond where pelicans were gathered amid the rolling hills of Otter Tail County.

    Koep, largely considered the state’s leading provider of fatheads and sucker minnows, is all too familiar with the widespread shortage of minnows inside the nation’s third most popular fishing destination. It’s not that overall demand here has grown over the years. It’s that today’s trappers face a shrinking universe of wild lakes, ponds, rivers and streams suitable and accessible for state-approved harvesting.

    “Angler success is everything and live bait is so important for getting fish to bite.”
    Jon Thelen, TV host and fishing guide
    Live bait dealers elsewhere in the Upper Midwest could instantly solve the problem by exporting their surplus, but Minnesota and Maine are the only two states that still prohibit minnow importation. It’s a growing bone of contention between the multibillion-dollar fishing industry and state fisheries biologists who view the lockout as a necessary barrier against unintended importation of harmful fish diseases and new loads of aquatic invasive species.

    As the situation unfolds, there’s some exploration happening on the fringes of the industry into possible fish farming of minnows. Whether large-scale aquaculture is economically viable is uncertain.

    For now, at least, Koep and others who fetch minnows for a living have been encouraged by problem-solving meetings they’ve had with the Department of Natural Resources (DNR). State Fisheries Chief Brad Parsons acknowledges the live bait industry is troubled and needs help. To ease the shortage this year, the DNR took the unprecedented step of lengthening the short trapping season for spottail shiners during the first several weeks of the walleye and northern pike season. Koep said the additional harvest of spottails relieved pressure on inventories of fatheads, the state’s dominant year-round minnow species.

    “Every single angler in Minnesota is missing how important this is,” said Jon Thelen, host of Destination Fish Television and a longtime fishing professional who has worked for tackle manufacturers and as a guide. “This isn’t some weird, tough-luck deal that’s lasting a year or two. … This could be the beginning of a large falloff.”

    The long-term concerns being voiced behind bait counters from Bemidji to Lake Minnetonka are twofold. Will there be enough minnows to sustain fishing success by the hoards of Minnesotans who only wet a line three or four times a year? If not, the theory goes, they’ll find other things to do.

    Secondly, the craft of minnow trapping is a demanding way of life with few heirs apparent. According to the DNR, the number of licensed minnow dealers has declined by more than a third from 384 in 2001 to 233 in 2022. Live bait harvest in Minnesota, including leeches, declined at least 25% from 2017 through 2021.

    “Every year our harvest declines,” Koep has said. “Twenty years ago, we were trapping 20,000 gallons (of minnows). Now it’s 10,000.”

    The industry depends on a secretive milieu of mom-and-pop operators who tap public backwaters around the state that they hope won’t be discovered by other trappers. They also pay rent, sometimes in the form of fresh walleye deliveries, to landowners who grant them exclusive access to natural ponds. They sell their catches to individual bait shops, resorts or wholesalers.

    “It’s a tough business, fighting the battle every year,” said Tom Neustrom of Grand Rapids, a professional fishing guide and member of MN-FISH, the sportfishing foundation that has helped draw attention to the minnow quandary. “We’ve got to get younger age groups involved in harvesting.”

    Here and now
    At Wayzata Bait & Tackle, big sucker minnows are a “backbone” commodity for catching muskie, northern pike and catfish. Owners Tim and Bob Sonenstahl sell them for $12 a dozen. But for the first time in 48 years, the big minnows are beyond scarce. This past week, Tim said, the shop’s sucker tank sat empty.

    “We’ve got fatheads and crappie minnows, but that’s been hit and miss too,” he said. “No one is sitting on any bait right now.”

    Other prime bait stores around the state are taking what they can get. Koep, a key supplier to fishing hotspots in areas around Fergus Falls, Brainerd, Bemidji, Grand Rapids, Duluth and International Falls, said he’s being approached this summer by resort owners and other small outlets who simply can’t find minnows.

    “I’ve had to tell them, ‘No,’ ” he said. “I don’t have enough for my own customers.”

    The demand-supply imbalance has given Koep an opportunity to raise prices. Yet, he’s standing pat.

    “We need to keep fishing affordable,” said Koep, whose Urbank Live Bait Co. in Clitherall employs seven full-time trappers who work six days a week, year-round. “You don’t want to kill peoples’ interest.”

    Gallons of sucker minnows awaiting delivery to bait shops in northern Minnesota at Urbank Live Bait Co. in rural Clitherall, Minn.

    TONY KENNEDY, STAR TRIBUNE
    Gallons of sucker minnows awaiting delivery to bait shops in northern Minnesota at Urbank Live Bait Co. in rural Clitherall, Minn.
    Declining participation is the big-picture fear among industry leaders like Neustrom and Thelen. They believe, like other fishing professionals, that minnows are the nucleus to fishing’s popularity, often starting with casual outings with a parent or grandparent.

    “Angler success is everything and live bait is so important for getting fish to bite,” Thelen said.

    Even makers of artificial fishing baits depend on minnows to keep and grow interest in the activity, Thelen said. Only if people are successful will they grow their fishing repertoire, he said.

    Said Neustrom: “Without live bait, you’ll lose some anglers forever. I hate to be so dramatic about it, but that’s the truth.”

    Labs take a look
    At a one-day meeting in Brainerd three months ago, high-ranking DNR managers heard firsthand from live bait dealers why the minnow harvest has fallen apart. Long term, they said, there is a growing scarcity of harvestable water.

    Invasive aquatic species have effectively put many waters off limits; ponds have dried up from drainage systems installed on farms; previously undeveloped shorelines are being purchased by people who ruin minnow habitats; recurring floods allow predatory fish to swim into once-isolated minnow waters; and governments continue to put wetlands and other waterways into conservation projects that become inaccessible for minnow trapping.

    What’s more, two consecutive drought years have lowered water levels in minnow ponds, leading to freeze-outs during winter. Those deep freezes have been spotty in past drought years but were widespread in 2023 and worsened by oxygen-depleting heavy snows, said minnow trapper Chad Walhowe, owner of Albion Acres Bait of Annandale. When spring arrived this year, trappers across the state were greeted by gobs of winter-killed minnows, he said

    “Hopefully the minnows come back and thrive. We’ve seen it before,” Walhowe said. “For now, supplies are definitely short.”

    States like Arkansas have mastered the science and economics of minnow farming, with private businesses hatching billions of minnows and growing them to market length in outdoor ponds. Koep and others say Minnesota winters are too long for aquaculture to succeed on a large scale, but that hasn’t stopped folks from trying.

    Don Schreiner is a fisheries biologist and educator connected with the University of Minnesota Sea Grant program. A Sea Grant demonstration project is investigating ways to farm golden shiners for the bait industry. The operators have figured out how to boost reproduction of the minnows, Schreiner said, but they haven’t yet looked closely at the economics of growing them to market size indoors or outdoors.

    He agrees with today’s minnow trappers that there are too few harvestable wild waters to go around. But he sides with the DNR on keeping the state’s doors closed to out-of-state minnows.

    “Once you open the door in regulatory things,” Schreiner said, “that door seems to swing wider over time.”

    Meanwhile, he’s received an increase in calls about minnow farming. Often, he said, the calls are from young people who would like to make a living in the world of fish and wildlife. It’s made him cautiously optimistic that someone will figure out a way to augment the state’s traditional harvest of minnows from the wild.

    FishBlood&RiverMud
    Prescott
    Posts: 6687
    #2216005

    State Fisheries Chief Brad Parsons acknowledges the live bait industry is troubled and needs help. To ease the shortage this year, the DNR took the unprecedented step of lengthening the short trapping season for spottail shiners

    Can’t make this stuff up.

    After we completely removed the ability for you to provide bait in quantities previously awarded were now going to celebrate and take credit for unprecedented steps to provide a minor percentage more yet drastically less than we removed previously from you.

    It’s like hey… we took $20 from you but now that you’re $20 short were going to proudly give you $.10 back and you should be happy with us… lol were the government and were here to help jester

    Don’t understand why we just can’t use some certified OK bodies of water from other states to bring in bait… nope, border closed no ifs ands or butts. Here’s your $.10 back

    John Rasmussen
    Blaine
    Posts: 6358
    #2216019

    Don’t understand why we just can’t use some certified OK bodies of water from other states to bring in bait… nope, border closed no ifs ands or butts.

    Absolutely! This is the dumbest state, sometimes I wish I didn’t like it here so much.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17391
    #2216023

    As the article states, part of the issue is that there isn’t nearly as many people in the business either. Its an aging demographic of workers. Even if an importation ban was lifted, there isn’t enough bodies to do it. I don’t remember the last time I saw someone under the age of about 50 in the live bait business. Shortage of workers…imagine that.

    Jimmy Jones
    Posts: 2816
    #2216032

    As the article states, part of the issue is that there isn’t nearly as many people in the business either. Its an aging demographic of workers. Even if an importation ban was lifted, there isn’t enough bodies to do it. I don’t remember the last time I saw someone under the age of about 50 in the live bait business. Shortage of workers…imagine that.

    ^^^^ This is a huge part of the bait shortage.

    Riverrat
    Posts: 1528
    #2216044

    I’m in Ottertail County. Bait has pretty much been as available as any other year. But the prices went way up. Almost all the bait (and in a huge surrounding area) here comes from one supplier just to different shops. There has been some loss of selection.

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 20360
    #2216046

    Pretty sure they don’t stop you at the border and check to see if you have wi shiners ? Least they never have checked me. Fireworks, new glarus, and minnows are better in WI. But that’s a 10 minute drive for me

    mark-bruzek
    Two Harbors, MN
    Posts: 3867
    #2216181

    I’m with the BC plan….

    stillakid2
    Roberts, WI
    Posts: 4603
    #2216187

    River guys need not worry, we love our artificials and so do the fish.

    North country folks I feel for. Minnows are king early in the year and later in the year. Its not even arguable IMHO. I’ve been on smoking hot bites and threw plastics out just to experiment and it’s in short order I switch back. I love plastics, but they have their time and place.

    If anyone has guide trips I’d see how much extra you may have to be paying IF there is a shortage, seems like it comes up every year but one of these years it could come to fruition. Guides will be snatching up all they can for their clients and their own bottom line.

    It’s usually about scent under these conditions. If you could make a hair clip smell like a minnow, they’d try it. In super clear water, I’ve experimented with this and it’s amazing to see what triggers a bite and when/how. Even a “scented minnow” was a no go, until I dabbled some “live minnow” scent on it, then BAM!

    Don Meier
    Butternut Wisconsin
    Posts: 1659
    #2216190

    I talked with a bait trucker and he said for them it was winter kill, major shortage for them .

    eyeguy507
    SE MN
    Posts: 5215
    #2216204

    we met a fellow canuck that would stop regularly across the border in Baudette and cross over with 6 dozen live shiners under his jacket. don’t fill it too full with air he said. frozen ones worked great too?

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17391
    #2216223

    I talked with a bait trucker and he said for them it was winter kill, major shortage for them .

    Absolutely true and this was one of the reasons indicated in the original post early this spring by EPG. Low water going into winter and tons of snow created a surplus of winter kill in many minnow trapping ponds. Just another issue at this time that’s compounded the problem.

    FishBlood&RiverMud
    Prescott
    Posts: 6687
    #2216604

    As the article states, part of the issue is that there isn’t nearly as many people in the business either. Its an aging demographic of workers. Even if an importation ban was lifted, there isn’t enough bodies to do it. I don’t remember the last time I saw someone under the age of about 50 in the live bait business. Shortage of workers…imagine that.

    I’d venture to guess that once borders closed the graph of number of employed bait shops and employees plummeted.

    Love how the articles mention nothing of the how we got here part of the history or that we are 1 of TWO states that do not allow bait across state lines.

    Wonder how other states are fairing in the regard to bait availability, shops, and age of operators. Sometimes you gotta look past MN borders to smell the Parsons BS

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17391
    #2216606

    I’d venture to guess that once borders closed the graph of number of employed bait shops and employees plummeted.

    Love how the articles mention nothing of the how we got here part of the history or that we are 1 of TWO states that do not allow bait across state lines.

    Wonder how other states are fairing in the regard to bait availability, shops, and age of operators. Sometimes you gotta look past MN borders to smell the Parsons BS

    I don’t disagree with any of what you stated. But clearly there’s multiple reasons for this issue, one of which is lack of habitat, whether that be due to specific state rules or natural temporary problems such as winter kill. I can’t imagine that many other states have frequent winter kill issues that we have, especially in the northern portion of the state where most live bait comes from.

    I’ll bet there’s a countable number of minnow ponds that have completely dried up the past few years due to drought here alone. Unfortunately we are on that path again heading into fall again this year.

    FishBlood&RiverMud
    Prescott
    Posts: 6687
    #2216611

    Can I ask you why we previously imported bait?

    Then can I ask you why you think that was ever necessary if there was ever enough supply here.

    I’m thinking there never was enough supply… therefore sourcing.

    When sourcing became obsolete we immediately, and I mean that year… noticed it and continue to see greater shortages. Prices went up. Demand went down as a result of price increases. And even with a lower demand cannot keep up with supply. None of that adds up to ever having the resources in the state to keep up with demand.

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