Better Protect those hunting dogs

  • kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #1504077

    Recently there was a good discussion about trapping and accidental catches of peoples beloved dogs. Well you have an even bigger enemy lurking in the Mn and Wi woods. You want to protect your pets, I hope to see those so vocal against trapping supporting a sound management plan to maintain an out of control wolf population.

    http://dnr.wi.gov/topic/wildlifehabitat/wolf/dogdeps.html#table

    Don’t let the DNR fool you either. We have way more wolves than reported to the public.

    super_do
    St Michael, MN
    Posts: 1089
    #1504084

    Don’t let the DNR fool you either. We have way more wolves than reported to the public.

    Right on Kooty! Like I’ve said before, they (DNR) can’t give us an accurate count of moose and they are 10 times the size of a wolf and black.

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13477
    #1504093

    Keep in mind that these are only the CONFIRMED cases where there is absolutely no doubt that it was a wolf. Most other cases are dismissed as coyotes or unknown. Add those in, and the numbers are considerably higher. Then factor in the unreported cases and it increases more.

    hl&sinker
    Inactive
    north fowl
    Posts: 605
    #1504112

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>kooty wrote:</div>
    Don’t let the DNR fool you either. We have way more wolves than reported to the public.

    Right on Kooty! Like I’ve said before, they (DNR) can’t give us an accurate count of moose and they are 10 times the size of a wolf and black.

    Says the guy holding an abnormally sized gold fish pulled out of his aquarium. razz
    Nice aquarium in the background..

    Here’s an idea for those that count the wildlife. On the helicopter windshield tape a picture of the words WOLF with an arrow pointing to a picture of a wolf. On the other side samething but with that of a Moose. idea

    tegg
    Hudson, Wi/Aitkin Co
    Posts: 1450
    #1504260

    You want to protect your pets, I hope to see those so vocal against trapping supporting a sound management plan to maintain an out of control wolf population.

    Sadly, the Feds took away State control.

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11640
    #1504324

    The problem is that most of the dogs being killed are not of the cuddly-wuddly variety. If you look closely at the site, most of the dogs killed are cold/trailing hounds. Coon, bobcat, and coyote hounds like Blueticks, Walkers, etc.

    So this isn’t likely to change anyone’s mind because bunny huggers all believe that hunting with hounds should be banned just like trapping should be banned.

    And Tegg is correct, it’s all on hold now because one judge in Washington DC has overruled the department and hundreds of managers and scientists who delisted the wolf in the first place.

    An appeal to set up an overturn of this judge’s ruling is unlikely to happen in time to put the MN wolf season back on for 2015. So with a mild winter, there will be another couple of hundred wolves added to the MN population that is currently uncounted.

    So just to recap, no one knows how many wolves there are in MN, but there are so few that they need to stay on the endangered list.

    Grouse

    mbenson
    Minocqua, WI
    Posts: 1709
    #1504335

    I thought I had heard that they were appealing it sooner than that grouse…

    Mark

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #1504383

    We all need to push for legislation to be passed like out west that overturns this judge’s ability to re-list wolves.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18621
    #1504416

    What’s ridiculous is the states quota’s were still too low and they shut it back down. Those things need to be managed. Why should wolves take precedence over deer? How many decades have we been coasting along nicely without them yet now we must have them back? How is it something is managed near man but man is not considered in the management?

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11640
    #1504432

    I thought I had heard that they were appealing it sooner than that grouse…

    Mark

    It wasn’t clear the way I wrote that.

    An appeal has been filed. But it is unlikely that the appeal will be heard and a ruling handed down in time for a wolf season to take place next year.

    Unless there has been more news on this recently. I could be out of date on something that’s happened recently.

    Grouse

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