A Bear Hunting Primer

  • tom_gursky
    Michigan's Upper Peninsula(Iron Mountain)
    Posts: 4751
    #197314

    My first Bear encounter was in October of 1975…I was hunkered near a fenceline near Crystal Falls, MI ( Yooper Land). I had a new fangled PSE Pacer compound bow (compounds hit the market in 1973) set at 65lbs (40% LO)… At sundown I noticed a strange black shape moving through the Buckbrush…Holy Sh$t!!! A Bear!! Bear tags were not required then but covererd by a Deer tag (they were considered non game then)
    He stood in an opening(a good 60 yds distant!) and some strange force took over me…I put my 20yd pin way over his back and let fly!!!
    Long story short…stupid lucky shot through the kidneys…dead 220lb Bear.
    I was hooked and have loved bear hunting with a bow ever since. I have harvested 15 personally and guided archers on many more the past 30 years. As bears seasons approach…(Ours starts in mid Sept) I hope to pass along some of what I’ve learned so some of you can get a “jump start” on this great sport.

    Tree Stand Tips for Black Bear Hunting
    Smell Is Everything

    What Bears Like To Eat:
    In years past, a very popular activity for tourists in our area was to drive to the dump and watch the bears eat. Tourists look at the bears and take pictures. Sometimes they try to get too close and scare the bears. Other bears hang around cabins or tent camps. Bears do learn to be scared of humans as well as know how humans smell, move and sound. (I’ll come back to this)
    A serious bear hunting outfitter examines the dump situation a little differently. If you are in a dump watching the bears eat, you will notice they never eat meat. The bears are looking for food high in carbohydrates. The bears are ripping the garbage bags apart looking for bread, pastries, pasta,
    old pizza crust etc… So later in the fall, the outfitters bait their feeding station with just that.
    Later in the fall when all the fishing lodges close for the season, there is a lot less food in the dumps, outpost camps or tent camps so more and more bears head to the outfitter’s feeding stations. The bears are hungry but still afraid of humans and know what humans smell like. They also know what humans throw away and know if there is human food; there are humans around. Yet the outfitters know what the bears like so the bears can not resist the temptation to feed at the feeding station. But they are cautious.
    Black Bears are very sensitive to perfume, cologne, deodorant, hair spray, scented soaps, scented laundry detergent, cigarette and cigar smoke etc. etc…
    With this in mind, before the hunt; try to prepare by trying some of the following.
    1) Before coming up north for the hunt, wash all your clothes twice. First with laundry detergent and then a second time with just water to make sure all the soap perfumes are out of your clothes.
    2) If you smoke, bring some nicotine patches so you don’t get the craving while you are in the tree stand. The big trophy bears are older and smarter and know what tobacco smells like and they know it comes from humans. Not smoking will give you a better chance at a trophy bear. All animals have an instinctive fear of smoke and fire.
    3) Stay very quiet. Bring some mint flavored throat lozenges with you in case your throat gets scratchy. This will help keep you from coughing.
    4) Use unscented deodorant, soap and shampoo.
    5) Stay still. A bear’s visual acuity is largely based on movement. Actually, that’s true with most animals.
    6) After breakfast or after lunch, either brush your teeth with mint toothpaste or chew mint gum while you are in the tree stand. When people go camping in Ontario’s parks, the first thing the ranger says is keep gum and toothpaste out of your tent. Black Bears go nuts over the scent of mint. So mint toothpaste and gum will not only cover up any scent on your breath, it may even attract bears.
    7) If you are going to drink alcohol the night before the hunt, which is a big part of any vacation, it’s best to drink beer. The next day, the beer smell in your body slowly dissipates and makes you smell like bread. Other forms of alcohol tend to give you more of an artificial chemical smell. You may not notice it, but the next morning, people who have not been drinking can smell it on you. A bear’s sense of small is about 250 times better then a human.
    Bear Size:
    In most cases, big ears mean a smaller bear. A small ear is usually a bigger bear. Once a bear reaches three years old (approx. 100 lbs.), the bear starts to grow into it’s ears. The ears and eyes don’t grow as much as they do in the first three years. Sometimes if a bear has a hard year with food, the ears will look bigger because the bear is thinner.
    Cub:
    When a sow is with cubs, 90% of the time the cubs are in the lead. The cubs will make more noise than a single bear. Most of the time, adult bears make little or no noise.
    Sow:
    You can’t shoot a sow with cubs. This is the law. So make 100% sure you know what you are shooting at. Take a really good look around to make sure there are no cubs. A sow’s ears are usually closer together, as a male bear’s cranium grows wider on top and the ears look farther apart. They also look smaller, which is really an illusion.
    These are just basic tips. Bears have different behavior in different areas so make sure you listen to what the outfitter tells you. And remember anti-hunting group’s just scare-monger for donations. It’s hunters who are the real leaders in conservation so do your part by eliminating any possibility of harvesting a sow with cubs or a young bear.

    Next week…what to look for scouting and how to set up a bait site…

    little_g
    durand WI
    Posts: 317
    #54832

    Great information Tom; Brad,Rob, and I are going Bear hunting this year and we know nothing about setting up bear sites. I know how to do it for running dogs but bait setting is another thing. Our plan is to set up for a west wind also, thats were the bear most likely come from and access our stands from east.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22420
    #54834

    Tom, when I was up in Northern Manitoba 2 months ago bearhunting, driving back from stand one night, an old Indian guide told me something that I thought was fascinating. I only was seeing small bears, he said too, the older bears get smart, they know when “hunting” season is, but he had a bait that would bring in any bear. He said candy and sweets are ok for hungry bears. It was his first season guiding for my outfitter and he said next year, they will get only BIG bears. I asked him how that would happen. He said, next spring he would shoot about 20 beavers. He then takes some scent glands from the beaver and boils them in grease. He basically makes a paste. Then you just mix the paste with dirt and spread around as a bait station. He said the bears will dig a 4 foot hole, where you put this stuff. He also said, the carcass, you hang in garbage bags in the sun for a couple weeks and bury that also. He said bears love beaver. The way he told it, I was mesmerized. Have you ever heard of anything like this ??? Evidently, it is a real old practice, handed down by the Natives in Northern Canada.

    jonny p
    Waskish, MN
    Posts: 668
    #54835

    Yes bear do eat beavers from time to time and are attracted to the scent although ya know what really likes meat smell? Wolves, in my neck of the woods you put out any type of meat you will get wolves and when they move in to check it out and lift a leg you might as well forgot that bait for the season as the bear will not come back in. Not to mention meat, rotting anything along with pastes are just a nasty stinky mess that is out produced by cleaner methods.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22420
    #54837

    Oh well… if I see the old guy again, I will tell him he is full of 5hit….

    tom_gursky
    Michigan's Upper Peninsula(Iron Mountain)
    Posts: 4751
    #54840

    My experience…Bears really only prefer rotten stuff early in the spring when their enzymes are not fully active after hibernation. They get really “picky” when there is are lots of bait sites in a given territory later in the year.
    According to the best experts, incl Dr. Lynn Rogers (U of Minn) fawns are the favorite spring through fall…
    Yes Johnny,Dem Wolves and Coyotes seem to relish the sweet greasy Beavers!

    jonny p
    Waskish, MN
    Posts: 668
    #54841

    Quote:


    Yes Johnny,Dem Wolves and Coyotes seem to relish the sweet greasy Beavers!


    And they will travel a long ways for it.

    I always get a kick out of the fish guts hanging from a tree in the fall, sure fire way to wreck a good bait or pull in a desperate and sick bear.

    hooknfinger
    Rochester, Minnesota
    Posts: 1290
    #54853

    I think stink bait is a must have to get a bait started and bears coming to the site, obviously you want fresh food there for them to eat but we always have hung meat in a potato sack up in a tree that is big enough for bears not to be able to nock down but small enough so they cant climb it.

    Joel Nelson
    Moderator
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 3137
    #54862

    Great article Tom, and thanks for all your knowledge/advice. I think we’re pretty lucky to have Jonny and yourself here as both experienced bear guides.

    Looking forward to learning more from you guys!

    Joel

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22420
    #54867

    What is the “magic” bait…simple, clean and effective I haven’t learned anything yet…. Please don’t tell me its a truckload of day old bread….

    jonny p
    Waskish, MN
    Posts: 668
    #54872

    Well it’s like this, great grampa figured it out and four generations ago and it is still a trade secret. Asking bear guides about what they use for bait is like asking for the recipe of KFC chicken, Busch Baked Beans or Coke a Cola.

    Bear and people are the same, if you need lots of energy and want to put on weight at the same time what would you eat?

    Also remember bear have a nose that we can not even fathom, they can smell good eats like a shark can smell blood in the water. Studies and guys with fancy titles say a bear has the ability to pick up scent seven times better then that of a bloodhound. Another study showed bear traveling in straight lines over three miles to attractants placed in controlled areas, not to mention polar bears doing this over forty miles, yes forty miles. My favorite little study is the American Bear Association study that a bear can pick up human scent fourteen hours after a human has walked by.

    So it is not about huge smell but the right smell, and if you have the smell of what they want you are going to need to clear some wall space in the den.

    tom_gursky
    Michigan's Upper Peninsula(Iron Mountain)
    Posts: 4751
    #54876

    I think ol Johnny and I went to different schools together…
    I agree…Let me just say that rotten, stinky stuff is highly over rated, and can actually ruin a bait site.
    I am only going to say varieties of fresh people foods won’t hurt ya.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22420
    #54880

    Well then… what do you think about 30 loaves of bread or 40 bags of noodles…. smothered in 5 gallons of orange/grape pop syrup concentrate ???? I don’t think there is 1 magic bait… how secret can they be with hundreds of guys sitting on outfitters piles over the years ????

    mpearson
    Chippewa Falls, WI
    Posts: 4338
    #54895

    All this talk about bear hunting is giving me the itch to start applying for a tag! Great article Tom!

    tom_gursky
    Michigan's Upper Peninsula(Iron Mountain)
    Posts: 4751
    #54898

    Let me say that Bear are somewhat like people…they will soon tell you what they like and don’t like…99% of your bait stations will attract Sow and Cubs…its easy pickins for Mom to provide food for the cubs. They are less “picky” than the bigger boars.

    If your area will tolerate a trail cam you will learn a lot about what and when its coming in…(I have had almost every Cam destroyed, and I hunt mainly state/Fed property)

    Start with a variety of foods and tweak from there.

    For the record Big G…I have never used Pasta, soda syrup, or meat scraps…too expensive when added to the gas cost of driving many miles to cover several baits. If you can get them and they work…go for it!

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22420
    #54902

    Sounds good Tom I too haven’t heard much about meat scraps ? I do know alot of guys who swear by used deep fat fryer grease….. seems it is not as easy to come by… since Willie started runnin’ it in his diesel Good info

    Bob Schultz
    Wausau,Wi
    Posts: 756
    #54904

    We always used to use donuts. Pack them tight into 55 gallon drums and they would stay fresh for a couple years as long as all the air was crushed out. Once we lost our donut supplier we went to a mixed bait we mix ourselves. Granola, craisins, cereal, chocolate covered cherries and cookies. In the fall we added maple powder, but we have lost that supplier as well. We seem to get more hits now in the fall than in the past, but there are also more bears around. Plain bread and bagels will mold quite fast and will get pushed aside for fresh stuff. One year we picked up a bunch of powder that was used in making pop rocks candy. They absolutely loved it and would always roll the bait blocks out away from the sand licking them clean. Candy cigarettes and hearts and the like will draw bees terrible in the fall so we stay away from that also.

    jonny p
    Waskish, MN
    Posts: 668
    #54937

    Quote:


    how secret can they be with hundreds of guys sitting on outfitters piles over the years ????


    Actaully when its all mixed up and ground up as ours is it becomes hard to say whats all in it. Looks like a messed up version of Fancy Feast.

    Big G your bait will rock, I have used the pop syrup before and it does work but holy hornets Batman.

    Grease or fryer oil does work also as they track it all over and basicaly one critter will make a scent trail for a thousand other critters bear included. Trouble I found with it was the bear are covered in it (taxidermist love that)as is the guide from handling the oil soaked logs. The stuff is messy, it ends up in your truck, on your boots, in your washer. Yucka.

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