Stop the line item veto

  • brovarney
    Posts: 662
    #1217026

    In the budget bill passed this week there is a requirement that barbless hooks be used in catch and release area of the state during the early seasons. There is also a new early season on muskies up north. Both these items as well as the tax hike where brought to you by the line item veto.

    There is currently a bill calling for a referendum to outlaw the line item veto. For that referendum to occur the call for it must be passed twice in both the house and senate. It has currently passed twice in the House and needs to be passed once more in the senate.

    It only needs to be brought up for a vote. It is sitting there awaiting action. Tell you senator to get the lead out and get this thing up for a vote.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #621231

    Is this Minnesota or Wisconsin or ??????

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22456
    #621238

    Clue me in, but is a line item veto, giving the power to the Governor, the ability to cut useless, pork out of otherwise good bills, for the state ? I guess I don’t understand, do you want the barbless hooks thing cut out or left in ? That begs the question, what does barbless hooks have to do with the budget, in other words, a rider, on an otherwise thought out bill. Does Mn have a line item veto already, I did not know this ?

    big g

    rkd-jim
    Fountain City, WI.
    Posts: 1606
    #621275

    Quote:


    Clue me in, but is a line item veto, giving the power to the Governor, the ability to cut useless, pork out of otherwise good bills, for the state ? I guess I don’t understand, do you want the barbless hooks thing cut out or left in ? That begs the question, what does barbless hooks have to do with the budget, in other words, a rider, on an otherwise thought out bill. Does Mn have a line item veto already, I did not know this ?

    big g



    As far as I know a line item veto is a good thing. Like Big G says, if used correctly, it can cut pork out of a bill without vetoing the entire bill.

    brovarney
    Posts: 662
    #621303

    That would be Wisconsin……

    brovarney
    Posts: 662
    #621308

    I Wisconsin the Governor can delete words.

    For example “It shall be illegal to Bass Fish during the full moon.” Can become “It shall be illegal to Bass Fish” with just the stroke of a pen. In some cases it could be used to get rid of expenses. In the budget line itemed veto the tax levy went up.

    Exactly what the occurrence is that triggers us to notice is really un-important. My worry is the system we have in place which allows the average Joe to follow the process of legislation and raise a little hell if things are going amok is short circuited. I just can’t find a reason to believe that having a politician go off into a room a and come out with a law that has bypassed the entire system of checks and balances.

    Call me old fashion but I don’t think that was the founding fathers intent.

    oldrat
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 1531
    #621318

    Under a previous multi term governor, not only did the governor use a line item veto, he created the Vanna White law. Because this Governor, deleted letters and made totally new sentences. If you wanted to stop the line item veto, this would have been the Governor to stop.

    and trust me, this governor made totally new words out of pieces of other words to get what he wanted.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22456
    #621434

    Wow, I wouldn’t really call that a line item veto, I would call it changing words and changing meanings of laws. I always thought a line item veto meant, a section or part of a bill could be omitted, not manipulated.

    big g

    brovarney
    Posts: 662
    #621441

    It use to be worse. It use to be that the govener could just cross out letters to make a law say whatever they wanted. That change went to referendum and passed.

    What really bothers me is that it bypasses the basis of what the three branches of goverment system was set up to do…..to create a system of checks and balances.

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