Major Fish Kill at Tournement in Sturgeon Bay

  • mossboss
    La Crescent, MN
    Posts: 2792
    #472386

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    arrogant azzholes


    I don’t see any place where ReelGuy said this, but it is an interesting addition on your part.

    Also, the “money” brought in is not the money to the anglers, it is the money to the hotels, restaraunts, gas stations, bait shops, etc. So, the use of the resource seems to bring monetary gain to those not in the fishing tournament itself it would seem.

    RLK
    Posts: 12
    #472420

    Brovarney,
    To try to answer your question many posts back- A permitted catch/kill tourney won’t attract attention because thats what their permit allowed them to do. A catch/release tourney where an abnormal percent of the fish die may be newsworthy because it didn’t happen as planned. Fish were supposed to be released unharmed and it didn’t happen. It gives the impression that someone was at fault. Whether the holding tanks were too small or the aerator didn’t work or whatever unknown reason, things didn’t go as planned according the tournament catch/release permit. Should the tourney directors be held responsible for poor handling??? Should the DNR be held responsisble for permitting tourneys in the heat of summer??? I really don’t know. Most bass tounaments dont have numbers dead bass floating around afterwards, but if one did, then something must have went wrong. If something went wrong, then it should be fixed. That is why it is newsworthy.
    I must have missed the story but some of the posts seem to refer to a recent bass tourney kill?

    RandyK
    Posts: 27
    #472478

    I did a google rearch and answered my own question (Stren at LaCrosse). Interesting how the FLW has a different story than the papers. By the way, FLW has a tournament tomorrow on my home water, pools 13 and 14 (along with 3 other tournaments on pool 14). I hope FLW has got their act together for this one. This is my backyard.
    RLK

    SLee
    Crystal,MN
    Posts: 168
    #472480

    The main reason there is a different standard is quite simple…….They are different fish!

    People that fish salmon catch them and eat them. Thats how it is.

    I notice you do not bring up the carp tournaments where all the fish all killed with an arrow. Then used as fertilizer.

    It ain’t news about the carp because nobody will get upset.

    Different fish and game are veiwed differntly by the vast majority.

    Some one shoots a crow and leaves it lay……does anyone care?

    Someone shoots a mallard and leaves it lay……does anyone care? I would bet so.

    You can hunt bears over bait.

    What happens when you hunt waterfowl over bait?

    Same logic applies to the bass vs. salmon debate.

    brovarney
    Posts: 662
    #472487

    RLK,

    To the best of my knowledge the tournement are issues for water use by an organization. They can be issued with Riders such as displsal of fish or in the event of Live release you need a permit to release.

    An interesting one occurs over on the Wolf River during the spring season. That Fish Manager on occasion requires the tourement directed to truck the fish back up north to the spawning areas they came from.

    During discussions surronding the Stren fish kill a bone of contention was that the fish were both stored and released in currentless, hot water with no shade. It is this handling of the fish that has been called into question. In the spring bass will hold on dark cover to pick up heat. I would venture to say that the fish themselves would pick up heat in August in less than six feet of water. The question is…Is it enough to kill them.

    brovarney
    Posts: 662
    #472492

    SLee didn’t mean to leave Carp out.

    Sometime fish die when they get caught. Some times they die when they are handled. In the two other studies this summer there was almost no dead fish.

    All of the studies that relaesed fish in the Black river had problems. Could it just possibly be that it’s ther Black river. The DNR has been doing controled studies around the state. I fished in one today. They shock up the fish and put them in pens. You drive up to the cage and the give you a rod and reel. They hook up a fish and you reel it in. You do this five times and then you go fishing like normal. If you catch any fish you those them back. At the end of two hours you go back you take one of the fish you have out of the livewell and put it into a seperate pen. You “catch” anouth fish and repeat.

    Maybe a seperat controled study, not concerning the Black could bring some light to this.

    brovarney
    Posts: 662
    #472495

    Commercial Fishermen ply the waters of the mississippi during all seasons. They make profits of of the bounty of the river.

    Should not the towns along the river be allowed, if it does not destry the fishery, to capitilize on that bounty as well?

    They have not released the economic impact study that was done surronding the Stren series yet but they did release one for a smaller tournement done by BASS on Lake Wisota in the Chippawa valley. (Stren 200 Boats/Bass 50 boats) The economic impact of that one event was Two Million Plus dollors.

    Looking at the tourement result from other events following the Stren the fishing hasen’t slowed.

    The fish are still there and the money stayed. It looks like a lot of people were winners here.

    davenorton50
    Burlington, WI
    Posts: 1417
    #472693

    Randy K (RLK)- I fished this tournament Saturday and you’ll be happy to know there are hundreds of happy, smiling largemouth on pool 14 now waiting for the next angler to catch them (hopefully to be released again)…

    BTW- your statement…

    Quote:


    I hope FLW has got their act together for this one.


    …if you would read the entire story about what happened in La Crosse will see that once the fish were weighed the DNR assumed responsibility of the fish. . This means the FLW was not involved with the holding and release process. You need to target someone else. The FLW runs HUNDREDS of tournaments each year including tournaments held in many southern states where temperatures exceed 100 degrees regularly with no problems . Something obviously went wrong…

    amwatson
    Holmen,WI
    Posts: 5130
    #472695

    Also take into consideration, the LAX Tribune ran the story BEFORE all the facts were known. Typical of local papers

    brovarney
    Posts: 662
    #472723

    D-nort……Why didn’t they release them on 15?

    blue-fleck
    Dresbach, MN
    Posts: 7872
    #472725

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    D-nort……Why didn’t they release them on 15?


    LM Bass don’t like odd numbers.

    BomberA
    Posts: 649
    #472736

    Quote:


    Quote:


    D-nort……Why didn’t they release them on 15?


    LM Bass don’t like odd numbers.


    That’s why I throw DD22’s

    bassbaron
    eldridge, ia
    Posts: 709
    #472769

    LOL- nothing on 15 except 15 lb sheepies right nort??

    davenorton50
    Burlington, WI
    Posts: 1417
    #473228

    You guys are too funny. I’m sure most don’t know the story about how I practiced on the wrong pool for our last BFL. I do have to say I certainly stuck the biggest sheepie I’ve ever seen in my life. I’m just thankful I found a few fish on a legal pool during the time I had…

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