Cranks for fishing

  • ZoomHog1
    LaCrosse, WI USA
    Posts: 78
    #1216355

    Well, nick and i went fishing today and launched at goose. We started of heading south fishing rocks, trees and grass. I lost a fish on a swim jig and caught one on the rocks on a crayfish crank (tiny little guy), and missed two more on the same lure. From there we headed norh tward seventh street. We fished all types of cover on the way, rocks, pads, slop, wood, and docks. I lost another along a boat dock that felt pretty good. We finised by cranking along docks and rocks by seventh street where i caught another bass that was 13 in and 1 lb 3 oz. We proved that the wood bite is DEFINATELY not on and that crankbaits where the way to go.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #468661

    Nice report ZoomHog!

    I don’t fish for bass too often although with the smallie bite on the St Croix sometimes it’s hard not to.

    I’m certainly no expert at any type of fishing…so I’m asking this based on your experiance.

    In my area of the Croix (kinda like a resevoir) I’ve noticed that in the calm mornings the smallies will nail just about any type of fly I offer them on my fly rod…then they go deeper as the day progresses….I’ve caught them on a number of colors of ringworms and also on cranks…I generaly use the blue over orange husky jerk in size 5…I think. But they all seem to do well…on one day. Then on others I can’t buy a bite. Most always the fly works on a calm morning…but as they go deeper…it seems to be just by chance that I’ll get into a consistance bite.

    So my question is, in the area your fishing…does one presentation always work at a certain time of the year?

    PS…remember, the only thing I know about bass is that flat heads love’m.

    ZoomHog1
    LaCrosse, WI USA
    Posts: 78
    #468799

    not at all. Today i was catching fish on flukes like crazy and that doesn’t usually happen, anytime. I wish i could help u more, but i don’t know all that much about smallmouth, i’m more of a largemouth guy. Maybee someone else with more experience can help. HINT! HINT! Ida field staff.

    Ralph Wiggum
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 11764
    #468800

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    Nice report ZoomHog!

    I don’t fish for bass too often although with the smallie bite on the St Croix sometimes it’s hard not to.


    BUSTED! I knew you were a closet bass guy

    I think what you’re experiencing, Brian, is pretty normal from what I’ve experienced and what I’ve heard. I’m sure a guy like Alvin Mack will chime in once he gets back from his drinking…I mean fishing…trip this weekend.

    In my experience, smallies will tend to hit anything early in the morning but they slow down once the sun comes out usually. An overcast day can extend that bite longer, too. Once they move out deeper, I have had my best luck with tubes and the trusty jighead/curly tail grub combo, but there are a lot of things that they will hit. I have had hot, sunny days where I’ve had quite a few smack spinnerbaits in water that I could barely float a canoe on, so I guess I haven’t figured them out yet.

    Today, Steph and I canoed (well, walked a portion of it ) and fished from Monticello to Otsego. A stiff wind blowing upstream and really low water didn’t let me fish as much as I would have wanted, though. We started off about 9:30 and I quickly picked up the largest fish of the day on a tube. Steph held off until later in the day and spanked me in the numbers contest, though, all on a white grub with a black jighead. All of the fish were caught in fairly calm water with large boulders near current.

    cade-laufenberg
    Winona,MN/La Crosse, WI
    Posts: 3667
    #468802

    Briank. The answer to your question about one presentation working all the time is no. I use Many diferent presentations a day, or week, or month. Usually its not necesarrily one bait that catches all the fish everytime out, but you have to experiment with different baits and presentations to catch fish each time out. Some days i’ll see fish busting shad every where i go with wood and current for example. I’ll start throwing topwaters to the bass that are near the surface and before you know it, i’m on fish. I take a mental note of the area i just caught a bunch on and move to a similar area. If this area produces more fish, i’m licking my chops because i know i’m going to whack ’em at every spot i check. But it doesn’t always work this smoothly. some days they are definitely in slop, somedays, they are definitely on rock. You just have to try everything. I usually start out on a fishing day fishing a spot where i caught fish last time out. I’ll hit that and hope to catch some fish. If not, i’ll try some more similar spots to that to just see if that spot isn’t holding or if that pattern isn’t producing. If i find that fish aren’t in grass for example, i start looking at the other possible patterns such as wood, rock, islands, ect and go through in my head of every possible scenario where fish could be. Some times, it just doesn’t work out and i don’t get any fish. Sometimes, after fishing slop, grass, and rock, i finally pull up on wood and that turns out to be holding fish and it saves the day. Sometimes i’m just thrown into a lull and i don’t know what happened. Each time out you have to experiment is what i’m getting at. Yeah i could tell you the prefered patterns and lure choices for me right now, but your best bet is to try everything you can think of until you have a combination put together that consistantly boats fish. don’t focus on one lure either. Fish each spot with a combination of lures. I’ll start on a spot with a topwater if i think fish are on top, then maybe a swim jig. then a rattle trap. Usually i can get some fish on the first couple techniques, then i’ll work everything extremely well with plastics. This way you know for sure THERE ARE NO FISH HERE! or THERE IS A PILE OF FISH HERE!

    As i said before though, i can tell you favorite presentations/baits for now.

    The lures that are on my rods right now would be:

    1- Swim jig. (always have one tied on)

    2- super spook jr. (have had one on for last couple outings as bass are starting to school and feed on shad on top)

    3- texas rigged creature. (whether its a brush hog or lake fork creature, or something else, i have confidence in 4 inch creature baits pitched around cover)

    4- rattle trap. (I believe this is the ultimate best choice for when bass are schooling and eating shad, but below the surface, a few feet down. Not right on top.)

    Thats pretty much my favorites for right now. Spots that i fish vary, but i like fishing eelgrass with current using swim jigs with some flash to immitate the shad, grass clumps out in the open with current flow with swim jigs spinnerbaits and rattletraps if there is no eel grass and just arrowheads.

    I have a few “nothing spots” also where there are just a few logs and a mud bottom but there are shad. In these areas i throw everything mentioned above. None of the baits above are favored over another. They all have been extremely effective for me.

    if you are motoring through and area and see bass and shad busting, stop and fish. thats been a good way for me to find fish. Otherwise, stick to grass with current flow. Also main channel wingdams have been good but not my cup of tea. when i do fish those, i use crankbaits followed by plastic craws to catch smallies. I have tried topwaters as i have seen fish busting over the dams but didn’t have any luck. Hope this LONG post helps you Briank. Someday i’ll get up there to fish cats with ya. I don’t know when or how though. Football has me pretty much spent every day of the summer now except sundays. I know we’ll fish someday though. Maybe an ice GTG is in order down here in LAX this winter.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #468836

    Ralph…you’re not going to blackmail me…again are you!

    Thanks guys…that did answer my question and more.

    Cade, that was almost a beginners “how to” book!

    Sounds like…a person has to have at least 4 lures just to think about going out.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #468837

    PS Happy Birthday Zoomer!

    Hope you get everything you wished for when you blew out your candles!

    My last birthday someone called the fire dept because they drove by and saw all the flames.

    hardnose
    prairie du chein, wisconsin
    Posts: 37
    #468861

    with rocks and current throw flukes the are a great bait any other king of vegetion throw creture baits with texas rig or crankbaits

    davenorton50
    Burlington, WI
    Posts: 1417
    #468862

    Brian, your experiences are very typical of summer pattern smallmouth. Shallow topwater bite in the morning, deep bottom bite after the sun is high. As you stated the morning bite is the easy one to figure out. Once the sun goes high it does get tougher (until you figure them out). If you catch them good in the morning then they shut down, look for the nearest flat or point that has ~ 8-15 FOW on it. Start off with throwing a craw-colored crankbait that dives deep enough to stay in contact with the bottom in the 8-15 ft range. Once you catch a fish or two on the crankbait, remain in the same area and switch to slow plastics. By plastics I mean start dragging a tube or throwing your favorite smallie plastic on a Carolina-rig.

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