Big White Birds on the Mighty Miss…

  • rgeister
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 972
    #1215202

    Nope, not Slop and BC “waving” as they drive by you…

    On my way into work this AM, I lost count around 34 HUGE white birds… appeared to be Pelicans. I just have never seen that many of them so concentrated in an area (around the Black River by I-90).

    I read some research that says the birds were not native to the area, and they have adapted to the environment and have flourished and have “naturalized” into the area.

    Is this a good or bad thing? Anyone with eco or biological answers? I am interested in opinions. They sure are pretty birds…

    Jeremiah Shaver
    La Crosse, WI
    Posts: 4941
    #356833

    Only 34? they have been out by the 100’s everytime I see them.

    blue-fleck
    Dresbach, MN
    Posts: 7872
    #356836

    Quote:


    Only 34? they have been out by the 100’s everytime I see them.


    I agree. I’ve seen more this year already than I have in previous years. Although after yesterdays adventure, nothing surprises me anymore…

    mossboss
    La Crescent, MN
    Posts: 2792
    #356841

    The last few weeks, there has been hundreds at times just north of Clinton street between La Crosse and French Island. Wish I would have had a camera, but it never seemed to make its way into the car.

    The last 3 or 4 years, pelican numbers have semed to increase in the area, but this year is a massive increase. Whether they will stay or are just migrating through, I don’t know.

    rgeister
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 972
    #356866

    Quote:


    The last 3 or 4 years, pelican numbers have semed to increase in the area, but this year is a massive increase. Whether they will stay or are just migrating through, I don’t know.


    And, Dan, that is exactly what I am interested in knowing.

    Clearly this is a shift in envroonemtal impact and the naturalization is occurring. The birds have to eat… what do they eat? How much? Not sure it is “good” or “bad”, but it will alter the landscape some – they have to displace or restrict something else. Anyone know or talk to a DNR guy?

    Perhaps they eat nothing but toothy critters and jumping Asian carp!?

    mossboss
    La Crescent, MN
    Posts: 2792
    #356874

    Did a google search on white pelicans minnesota wisconsin diet, and found this info:

    White pelicans, unlike brown pelicans, don’t dive from the air to catch fish, and thus are not likely to catch deep-water fish.

    White pelicans prefer to fish in a line, side by side, herding their prey toward shallow water where they surround it and scoop it up in their pouches. The bulk of their diet consists of rough fish, such as carp, bullheads, and suckers, as well as sunfish and a surprising number of salamanders and crayfish. During my visit to Big Island, I found numerous regurgitated carp near the nests, some more than a foot long. Despite misunderstanding about pelicans’ fishing habits, people tolerate pelicans better than they do cormorants, which also feed primarily on rough fish. ‘

    American white pelicans require shallow water for foraging. Most feeding occurs between water depths of 0.3-2.5 m (1-8.3 ft) (Anderson 1991). Feeding mostly takes place along lake or river edges, in open areas within marshes, on or below rapids, and occasionally in deep waters of lakes and rivers (Evans and Knopf 1993). American white pelicans feed largely on nongame or “rough” fish, amphibians, and crustaceans (Brittell et al 1976, Lingle and Sloan 1980). Hall (1925) reported that adult pelicans consume 1.8 kg (4.8 lbs) of food per day. Therefore, an abundant prey base predominantly consisting of warm water fish is essential for American white pelican survival (Smith et al. 1984)

    A pelican’s diet is chiefly fish, and fortunately rough fish are the major part (finally, something that relishes carp!).

    pitbull
    Too far from the river
    Posts: 485
    #356878

    they have been thick on pool 13 for a few years..you should see them heard schools of shad and bait fish against the bank and go to town…they can’t be good with the amount of bait fish they eat!!

    They fly about 15yds over top of the duck blinds during duck season..it’s so hard to hold back…I bet they make a heck of a splash

    rkd-jim
    Fountain City, WI.
    Posts: 1606
    #356911

    If you want to see white pelicans by the hundreds go to pool 5. Last summer the Weaver bottoms was loaded with them. Haven’t noticed what it’s like this spring yet. If the numbers are going to be up this year a guy is going to have to wear a rain coat when you fish close to there.

    alans
    Waterford, WI
    Posts: 241
    #356918

    Well said Mossboss, you sure did your homework.

    That’s very interesting. At least they aint eatin’ the bass.

    rgeister
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 972
    #356935

    Moss Boss… You taught me something today… Thanks!

    mossboss
    La Crescent, MN
    Posts: 2792
    #356938

    I just looked up info on a few websites guys. No biggie.

    Cut and paste job. I hope it’s accurate.

    chris-tuckner
    Hastings/Isle MN
    Posts: 12318
    #356952

    The last couple of years they have been staying in North Lake all summer. Great info! Thanks!
    Tuck

    carpking
    Janesville, WI.
    Posts: 859
    #356966

    Funny, I just got home from fishing on Koshkonong and was surrounded by these things! Of course when the camera comes out they took off to a distance. I did manage to get a shot of this one though. Pretty amazing bird!

    cherilovell
    Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin
    Posts: 1495
    #356967

    Is there somewhere in the pool 9 area to see them, this would be my first expericene.

    greg-vandemark
    Wabasha Mn
    Posts: 1096
    #356991

    Here is a photo I took this weekend.
    They are up here on pool 4 also.
    They seem to be around heavy this time of year year and then I don’t know where they go I think they are migrating some where..??
    I have too say they are some big birds..

    herb
    6ft under
    Posts: 3242
    #356997

    Bassin Al, they do eat bass. They eat anything they can catch. They don’t pick and choose. One was found on Odessa a few years back with a 4lb bass in it’s gullet that somehow got stuck.
    It’s been said that an adult white pelican will consume an average of 5lbs of fish per day.
    If you’re not cussing them now, you will be.

    680
    illinois
    Posts: 315
    #357047

    They was all over pool 19 last fall I can only imagine what they done to the allready failing back water lake I fish often. They was in there by the thousands.

    mnfish
    Lake Elmo MN
    Posts: 1104
    #357062

    Saw a bunch in backwaters of lower P2 last weekend. ….Along with eagles, turkeys, hawks, buzzards, cardinals, blue jays, wood ducks, teal, mallards, chikadees, black birds, robins……

    scc
    LaX, WI
    Posts: 72
    #357140

    They were THICK on 8 last fall! I had a couple spots I couldn’t even stand to fish unless the wind was right. Fishing downwind of 400 pelicans can be downright nauseating!!! In keeping with the avian topic, but on a much brighter note, the duck numbers seem really good this spring!! Lots of Woodies and Teal buzzing around the backwaters.
    Steve

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