Tournament question?

  • MFO
    Minneapolis, MN
    Posts: 1451
    #1213805

    I know the regulations state that for border waters it is illegal to cull. All the walleye tournaments I do on the river you are allowed to weigh 5 fish but are allowed 7 in the boat for example. The guys in my bass club that fish bass tournaments on the river say that they are not told this by their tournament directors and that culling is allowed and done by all teams. This kind of put me between the old rock and a hard place since I was voted in as tournament director and told the guys no culling per state rules. I was curious what you river bass fisherman usually do.

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #242839

    I don’t have the answer for you Mike but I don’t see how a tourney director could publicly over-ride a state law and expect to maintain any kind of credibility if any other issues ever popped up. To do so would really be setting one’s self up for a future headache in my opinion. I know this is why you posted the question so my advice would be to run the tourney “by the book” and get the participants to come to a consensus on the issue.

    Steve Plantz
    SE MN
    Posts: 12240
    #242854

    Mike,

    I am not sure about bass, but for the LPO we can only have 5 walleyes in the boat, this is a state law. I will check with Rick Nelson of the DNR of the Fisheries division on both questions & get back to you.

    Goldenboy
    Coon Rapids, MN
    Posts: 31
    #242895

    I can offer this, for the Wal Mart BFL events held on the river, we are held to no-cull rules/ 5 fish. Having angler/co-angler pair in boat is supposed to be insurance. Both must sign weigh-in slips which imply that rules were indeed followed.

    Steve Plantz
    SE MN
    Posts: 12240
    #242917

    Here is the answer I got from Rick Nelson…………….

    It is illegal to cull on the Wisconsin-Minnesota border waters, and it

    is illegal to do so both at bass and walleye tournaments on the river.

    Once a fish is reduced to possession, e.g. put in the livewell, it

    cannot be released to replace it with another fish. Each permit we

    issue on border waters explicitly prohibits culling, as does current

    regulations.

    Regarding possession limits during tournaments, the DNR can stipulate

    more restrictive limits than the current water regulations, but we

    cannot liberalize them (e.g., removing the 15″ minimum). Since the

    walleye-sauger possession limit on the river is six fish per angler,

    but

    the tournament rules (and permit) stipulate a lower limit, e.g. five

    fish, possession of more than five fish in this case would be an

    over-limit violation since the permit limit supersedes the water limit.

    In some cases, we have permitted tournaments to have a boat limit

    larger than the number allowed for weigh in. The example was given of

    a

    walleye tournament that allowed possession of seven fish, but the

    tournament stipulated only five could be weighed-in. This does not

    conflict with the culling rule, since once the anglers have reduced

    seven fish to possession, they cannot cull. They are going to

    live-release all seven fish, but only weigh five. I hope you can see

    the distinction.

    Any permitted Minnesota tournament on the border waters in which the

    tournament director is telling the anglers that culling does not apply

    is in violation of their permit, and could be subject to denial of

    future permits.

    Thanks,

    Rick

    Hope this helps Mike.

    bill_cadwell
    Rochester, Minnesota
    Posts: 12607
    #242935

    Hey Steve, I just added your informational post that you got for everyone to the Tournament Forum for viewing there to. Thanks, Bill

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