Wolves in the Backyard

  • B-man
    Posts: 6518
    #2309463

    Musky there’s at least two, I know that from when we had fresh snow couple weeks back, there was two sets of tracks following the deer trail out into the field.

    Suzuki and Bucky, it literally is my rifle range jester 150 yards to the field edge whistling

    I wish they’d just leave on their own. The Boys don’t even like playing far out in the yard, woods, or field if they’re not together.

    I’ve told them they have nothing to worry about, but Hank said “Dad, I’m smaller and slower than a deer,” I didn’t tell him that was a good point rotflol

    I don’t leave my dog outside anymore when we’re not home. She’s a 25lb Boykin Spaniel with a half acre invisible fence, with nowhere to hide where one couldn’t get to her.

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    B-man
    Posts: 6518
    #2309469

    If your going to do illegal stuff, it’s always best not to discuss it online.

    I’d never shoot one minding it’s own business, but if I ever see one get close to my dog and kids I’ll go to court over it.

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 18629
    #2309471

    I don’t leave my dog outside anymore when we’re not home. She’s a 25lb Boykin Spaniel with a half acre invisible fence, with nowhere to hide where one couldn’t get to her.

    Being a responsible pet owner B man. As I stated before, many of these situations could be prevented if more pet owners were responsible.

    Way back on page 1, I suggested a trail camera. I imagine you have some of them being an avid deer hunter with private land to hunt on. Put one out back there and get that sucker on camera.

    You’d also probably be able to tell pretty quick if you’re dealing with a loner/pack reject or multiple animals that are actually part of a pack. The loner is the more dangerous one.

    orve4
    Posts: 591
    #2309475

    We have some deer hunting land near Wadena. The deer usually heard up in our large swamp once the first snow flies and as we usually have some standing corn around. Once that first flake hits the ground its like clock work we have a timber wolve or two show up on camera and will stay there most the winter till the spring when the deer heard redistributes. This has been happening for about the last 8-10 years.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 24424
    #2309480

    I’d never shoot one minding it’s own business, but if I ever see one get close to my dog and kids I’ll go to court over it.

    Same!

    Swimjiggin
    Burnsville/Willmar
    Posts: 203
    #2309541

    Wowser b-man, that’s too close to kids n dogs. Any Livestock close by, besides your chickens? I guess my point is i know a fella in western Wisc that had problems also with his Cows, the trappers came in and took 6.

    B-man
    Posts: 6518
    #2309563

    Gim, I do own a pair of cell cameras but didn’t even put them out this year and haven’t renewed my subscription. Killed some nameless nice bucks in Wisconsin that never had their picture taken.

    I thought about it, but spending $40 in lithium batteries and renewing my subscription just to try and get a picture isn’t worth it to me, especially since they’ve been so random with where they run around.

    One sure way to get pictures would be dumping a fresh roadkill deer carcass, I know they’d be all over it.

    But I’d rather they just leave instead of encouraging them for a Kodak Moment.

    B-man
    Posts: 6518
    #2311133

    It’s been awhile since we’ve seen one around, was hoping they moved on.

    But the Boys and other kids on the bus just saw one cross the road 15 yards in front of the bus about 600 yards from our house.

    The driver said it was a wolf and after getting the kids we drove to the tracks to confirm. It crossed 200 yards from where I was parked, but I was facing the other way.

    The Boys said this one was lighter colored and smaller than the last sighting.

    It ran right by one of my neighbor’s houses, hoping it gets hit by the bus next time jester

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    mxskeeter
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 4285
    #2311145

    Latest WDNR wolf report includes no population estimate after being several months late to being released. Their reasons for no population estimate defective tracking collars and no snow last winter. What a bunch of BS!

    grubson
    Harris, Somewhere in VNP
    Posts: 1806
    #2311163

    this is exactly the type of person I’d expect to shoot a wolf hah

    I too, would expect a poacher to poach….. coffee

    FinnyDinDin
    Posts: 1020
    #2311318

    Bman, I’m starting to think you may have a den close by. Very odd to see wolves that frequently even in a high density area.

    If the den is close that may explain the lack of deer with the good habitat that you say you have.

    B-man
    Posts: 6518
    #2311331

    Bman, I’m starting to think you may have a den close by. Very odd to see wolves that frequently even in a high density area.

    If the den is close that may explain the lack of deer with the good habitat that you say you have.

    It’s too early for them to be denning, that’s more of a spring thing.

    Back when I had beagles and ran hare, the only time they were attacked by coyotes was in the spring (2010?), assuming they got too close to a den while hunting.

    My dog Gunner had multiple puncture wounds and needed tubes, my female Maggie was bitten multiple times too but was just covered in slobber and didn’t need surgery, but was sore for a long time.

    I was less than a 100 yards from them and will never forget the sound of that fight. I ran in screaming and shooting my 20ga in the air and they met me halfway.

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 18629
    #2311332

    Hey Bman where do you live again? Isn’t it kind of near Duluth?

    JEREMY
    BP
    Posts: 4317
    #2311339

    You wanna put some save the wolves signs in his yard?

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 18629
    #2311347

    Haha, no

    glenn57
    cold spring mn/ itasca cty
    Posts: 12794
    #2311360

    rotflol rotflol that’s funny right there!! whistling

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10996
    #2312642

    President Donald Trump didn’t mention wolves in his inauguration speech on Monday. But that doesn’t mean change isn’t coming in the way these apex predators are managed.

    With the help of the Republican-controlled Congress, such a change is possible, if not probable. Whether deer numbers in northern Minnesota increase as a result, addressing the frustrations of whitetail hunters in that part of the state, is another question.

    Either way, the Trump administration is likely to accelerate removal of Minnesota’s (and Wisconsin’s and Michigan’s) wolves from protection under the Endangered Species Act (ESA), where they are listed as threatened, and return them to state management.

    That should have occurred years ago, because wolves in the three states have surpassed population recovery targets set under the ESA. But wolves have gained a lot of friends in recent decades, making politics, not biology or policy integrity, the major force driving their management.

    To that point, it’s far from certain that, even if the Department of Natural Resources regains management of the state’s estimated 2,900 wolves — the most in the Lower 48 — Minnesota wolf hunting and trapping would be restarted.

    That’s in part because Gov. Tim Walz and Lt. Gov. Peggy Flanagan have said they oppose wolf hunting and trapping. Both qualified their opposition during their 2022 campaigns, saying they supported the DNR’s updated wolf management plan. But the plan doesn’t guarantee that wolf hunting and trapping will get another run in the state. And unlike Wisconsin, Minnesota law doesn’t require the state to initiate wolf taking if management is returned to the state by the feds.

    The last time Minnesota allowed wolf hunting and trapping was 2012-2014, when 413, 238 and 272 wolves were killed in the three years, respectively.

    Among Minnesotans who hunt deer in the north, including many from the Twin Cities, wolf management remains a hot topic. A recently formed group, Hunters for Hunters, held as many as 20 meetings beginning in December 2023 that in some cases attracted overflow crowds. Attendees complained that, along with low deer numbers, much of the state’s whitetail hunting tradition was being lost, as were investments in hunting camps and properties.

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 18629
    #2312654

    Yes, but the real question is will it hold up in federal court? Because that’s where the final decision rests. Both Obama and Trump tried to remove them years ago and lost in court. You know damn well once they are removed from the ESL, there will be a flurry of lawsuits.

    xplorer
    Cloquet, MN
    Posts: 730
    #2312662

    I live about 10 miles NW of B-man’s right on the Cloquet city limit line outside of town. I have a trail cam in the back yard off and on, where I’ve fed deer some over the winters. Hadn’t checked it since earlier in December, and what do I see yesterday but a pic of a single wolf on 12-18, and the same one again on 1-12. And last weekend a neighbor was cutting down a couple of standing dead popple off our road for firewood and showed me a wolfkill doe in the ditch right were he was cutting.

    Here’s pics from last year when I had another cam in the woods west of the house:

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    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 24424
    #2312667

    Yes, but the real question is will it hold up in federal court?

    Im sure it would be conveniently in front of the same judge I believe in Michigan.

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 18629
    #2312669

    I don’t think that would necessarily be the case. Both times it was overturned in the past, it was a different federal judge.

    Either way, there should at least be some movement on this in the coming year.

    mxskeeter
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 4285
    #2312691

    I don’t think that would necessarily be the case. Both times it was overturned in the past, it was a different federal judge.

    Either way, there should at least be some movement on this in the coming year.

    We can only hope!

    Matt Moen
    South Minneapolis
    Posts: 4943
    #2312703

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>gim wrote:</div>
    I don’t think that would necessarily be the case. Both times it was overturned in the past, it was a different federal judge.

    Either way, there should at least be some movement on this in the coming year.

    We can only hope!

    De-listing wolves is pretty low on my priority list now that we have a republican controlled govt. There are a helluva lot more pressing issues I hope we spend our time and energy on. It’ll take a year to undo the mess the last administration got us into.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 24424
    #2312705

    It’ll take a year to undo the mess the last administration got us into.

    If it only takes a year I will be very impressed.

    Bob Schultz
    Wausau,Wi
    Posts: 772
    #2313182

    If they get delisted by this administration, it will most likely be passed in law, so as not to allow judicial review. This is what happened in Montana, Idaho & Wyoming.

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