Fixed Pin vs. Adjustable Sight

  • robstenger
    Northern Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 11374
    #197051

    I’m just real curious to see the #’s and even more the reasons on this one!

    Talking about Hunting here!

    abster71
    crawford county WI
    Posts: 817
    #84019

    Once I switched five years ago to the HHA I’ll never go back especially how far the bows have came in the last 5 yrs. I would say 95% of the deer I’ve shot are under 20yrds anyway and the brightness of the HHA is unmatched IMO.

    protourbaits
    stillwater, MN
    Posts: 2466
    #84023

    Fixed for sure for me!! When the moment of truth is about to happen, the last thing i want to be doing is adjusting my sight to where the deer is going to be I hunt a lot of alfalfa edges through the gun season and its hard to remember/know yardages in open terrain. My second reason is “what happens when a deer spooks when you’re at full to a distance that you’re unsure of” Do you let down? Wing it? To me, an adjustable sight is not ideal for hunting but to each his own

    eye-full
    Waterloo,Ia,USA
    Posts: 660
    #84026

    Had a moveable last year, will never again. Fixed is the only way for me. Sometimes you don’t have time or can adjust in time or with alot of eyes.

    Here’s Bill Winke saying how I feel about it.

    Moveable pin sight

    todders
    Shoreview, MN
    Posts: 723
    #84027

    Quote:


    When the moment of truth is about to happen, the last thing i want to be doing is adjusting my sight


    That is exactly how i feel about it. There is enough other things racing through my head at that moment that I don’t need one more, I know my pin sequence without having to think about it and the gap in the pins has to be easier to adjust for an off yardage shot. The only advantage I could see would be the extra visibility of your entire target. I should also say I have never even looked through an adjustable sight so my opinion is biased

    lick
    Posts: 6443
    #84028

    Quote:


    Fixed for sure for me!! When the moment of truth is about to happen, the last thing i want to be doing is adjusting my sight to where the deer is going to be I hunt a lot of alfalfa edges through the gun season and its hard to remember/know yardages in open terrain. My second reason is “what happens when a deer spooks when you’re at full to a distance that you’re unsure of” Do you let down? Wing it? To me, an adjustable sight is not ideal for hunting but to each his own


    Don’t spook the deer Ever used the wrong pin in the heat of the moment if not you will My adjustable is set at 25 yards I never have to shoot farther than that Best part of bowhunting is the close encounters

    TheMidwestHunter
    MN
    Posts: 124
    #84029

    For myself, adjustable is the only way to go.

    1)Less sight clutter. I never have to sit there and wonder which pin to shoot as long as the shot is in my wheel house(0-35).
    2)One up pin covers nothing important on a deer.
    3)I like to shoot long distance. 60, 70, 80, 90 and 100 How do you fixed pin guys pull that off? 8 and 9 pins? lol
    4)I also shoot 2 eyes open, so the the 1 up pin is hands down better for me than stacking 5 in there.

    Deer isn’t at your set pin yardage? Big deal. I have my pin set to 28 yards of which I’m nearly dead on to that yardage with my 400gr arrow setup. Deer comes in at 30-32, I’ll often still hold dead center and pull the trigger. I don’t start moving my sight until a deer is at 35-36 or better. A deer at 40 yards? You should have plenty of time to make that adjustment before taking the shot. All of this seems a touch confusing, but it’s no different than fixed pin guys gap shooting. You have 20, 30 and 40 yard pins…deer comes in at 35.5. Do you freak out because you have to pin gap shoot? No. You’ve shot enough to know how to aim and what your bow does at that distance. You also would if you shot an adjustable. Deer is at 20-25 and spooks out to 35-40. Should you really be taking that shot anyway on a high strung whitetail? If so? In my case, I’ve shot enough to know exactly where to hold on a deer at 40.

    I’ve converted 2 of my buddies to an HHA and they use to say the exact same things you guys are. Ask them now if they would trade away their HHA and go back to fixed pins?

    flatlandfowler
    SC/SW MN
    Posts: 1081
    #84032

    Quote:


    You’ve shot enough to know how to aim and what your bow does at that distance.


    Thats the part that counts. Every one will have an opinion, every one will have a reason. This is the part that means somthing.

    robstenger
    Northern Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 11374
    #84039

    Excellent posts and points made Guys, Keep ’em coming!

    I’m a fixed pin guy for many of the reasons mentioned above!

    big_hunter
    eagan, mn
    Posts: 178
    #84042

    how come no one has brought up the hybrids yet? like the g5 optix with 3 fixed and one adjustable. or mb its the only hybrid type out there, i havent really done my homework on sights. i found my g5 fixed pin and havent needed to look for another.

    personally i like the fixed pins, i have enough problems with subtle movement in the stand before i make my shot that i dont need to fiddle with my site too.

    dennisdalan
    St Cloud, MN
    Posts: 974
    #84044

    I didn’t vote because I use both. Currently I am using the G5 Optix XR sight. It has 3 fixed pins and 1 moveable “floater pin” that I can move for longer distances. I am thinking about going to the G5 XR2 which has one fixed pin and the moveable “floater” or even back to my HHA slider. As stated above, it’s all about knowing your equipment. I watched Winke’s video posted above and that is a great example of why people don’t like slider sights but listen to what he says, “I didn’t practice enough to know where the pin shoots at different distances”. If he knew his equipment, he would have known were to hold his one pin and he would have killed that deer!

    tony_p
    Waterloo, IA
    Posts: 1792
    #84045

    Fixed pins for me. No time for adjustments in the tree. It’s go time then an I want to be ready if the shot is 10 or even 40 yards .

    dennisdalan
    St Cloud, MN
    Posts: 974
    #84046

    BH, you must have posted while I was typing….

    robstenger
    Northern Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 11374
    #84049

    I guess I have yet to see a Hybrid that I thought was built soild or durable enough to even try. I like the concept of a few fixed pins and one movable. However the ones I did see where made with some plastic.

    dennisdalan
    St Cloud, MN
    Posts: 974
    #84056

    Take a look at G5. Magnesium alloy! Just as strong and lighter weight.

    robstenger
    Northern Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 11374
    #84063

    Thanks DD!

    protourbaits
    stillwater, MN
    Posts: 2466
    #84069

    Midwest,

    A lot of the reasons you covered are the reasons why i shoot a Trophy Ridge Matrix 5 pin vertical sight. Since the pins are vertically stacked on top of one another, there is less clutter at full draw. With this sight, you can get it either in V-drive or not meaning you can adjust the entire sight up and down w/o any tools and you are also able to adjust individual pins w/o any tools! Its a great concept and the reason why i went to it is because i shot better w/ it compared to horizontal pins

    shednut
    22 feet up
    Posts: 632
    #84148

    I shoot the spott hogg hunter 5 pin. To me the “clutter” is a non issue, as the only thing I see while focused is the hair I’m trying to hit and the correct pin floating over it. I have pins from 20 to 60 and if I want to shoot long distance my bubble and center wire lined up on target will hit right on at 90 yards. For long distance practice the wire and bubble is awesome as you don’t have to glance down to the bubble as it is right there at your aiming point.
    No offense to the slider guys, but your setups are crap and mine is the best

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #84150

    I’m with shed. You guys have no clue.

    Seriously I practice to 50 yards and keeping track of 4 pins is not an issue for me.

    protourbaits
    stillwater, MN
    Posts: 2466
    #84157

    I know a lot of people that shoot the Spott Hogg 5 pin and love it! Thats a great idea putting a wire vertically in loo of the bubble

    muskyman
    Arkansaw, Wisconsin
    Posts: 945
    #84188

    I have shot both and I have never had to adjust at full draw and I have had mine for about 6-7 years but I did shoot with my 10 yard pin at 30 yards with my old 3 pin sight. Good thing ti was while I was shooting at my target and not a deer. To each his own but I will never shoot a fixed pin sight again.

    TheMidwestHunter
    MN
    Posts: 124
    #84203

    Do most of the fixed pin guys look at a target face at 60-100 yards and think…..”Gee, that sure looks like fun. Wish I could have a pin for those!” lol j/k

    As we all know archery is all about confidence. Some say that it’s too much confusion worrying about yardage and adjusting(which is valid depending on your setup), but with what I have….35 yards(which should account for just about 98%+ of all whitetail shot scenarios), I basically settle the pin and shoot. Within that yardage, I have 2 points of reference. The pin and the deer. I can’t confuse myself with much more than that. LOL!

    protourbaits
    stillwater, MN
    Posts: 2466
    #84204

    i have a 60 yard pin

    les_welch
    Posts: 1007
    #84205

    Quote:


    Do most of the fixed pin guys look at a target face at 60-100 yards and think…..”Gee, that sure looks like fun. Wish I could have a pin for those!” lol j/k


    In a word, NO.

    Hunter Hogg-It. 7 pin custom, w/ wrap.
    .019 0-25 yards
    .010 25-40
    .010 40-50
    .010 50-60
    .010 60-70
    .010 70-80
    .010 80-90

    Bubble/wire-102 yards.

    If I were to hunt WI only, I would consider going back to the HHA .010 w/wrap. Hunting multiple western states (open country) requires me to have a multiple pin set-up. To each their own, as there what ever works for you is the best answer.

    TheMidwestHunter
    MN
    Posts: 124
    #84216

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Do most of the fixed pin guys look at a target face at 60-100 yards and think…..”Gee, that sure looks like fun. Wish I could have a pin for those!” lol j/k


    In a word, NO.

    Hunter Hogg-It. 7 pin custom, w/ wrap.
    .019 0-25 yards
    .010 25-40
    .010 40-50
    .010 50-60
    .010 60-70
    .010 70-80
    .010 80-90

    Bubble/wire-102 yards.

    If I were to hunt WI only, I would consider going back to the HHA .010 w/wrap. Hunting multiple western states (open country) requires me to have a multiple pin set-up. To each their own, as there what ever works for you is the best answer.


    Now that, is a lot of pins! ha, ha For western state hunting, I would have a setup similar to that as well.

    robstenger
    Northern Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 11374
    #84231

    This poll is about a dead heat!

    C’mon fixed pins!

    lick
    Posts: 6443
    #84249

    I’m out of different computors to vote from

    shednut
    22 feet up
    Posts: 632
    #84270

    Quote:


    I’m out of different computors to vote from


    LOL

    TheMidwestHunter
    MN
    Posts: 124
    #84283

    Quote:


    I’m out of different computors to vote from


    I’m on my forth registered profile.

    I just might start a group. “The Adjusties” We’ll just sit on the platform down at South Forty on the range and mock the guys with fixed pins shooting 40 and under. LOL!!! j/k

    lick
    Posts: 6443
    #84286

    Quote:


    Quote:


    I’m out of different computors to vote from


    I’m on my forth registered profile.

    I just might start a group. “The Adjusties” We’ll just sit on the platform down at South Forty on the range and mock the guys with fixed pins shooting 40 and under. LOL!!! j/k


    I’m in

    They could be the multi pin heads

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