I am shooting a G5 QS 31″ and im getting 245 fps out of it 
Slow i know 
However, ive shot 7 deer and a turkey in 2 years w/ it but I need a faster bow….I don’t want to get a brand new bow ’10 model but possibly an ’09 that is quick like a Bow Madness 32″. I need something w/ an IBO of around 330 in order to get maybe 270-280 out of it. Any suggestions?? 
Try the new 7 inch brace height Mathew’s Monter out when it comes.
I have a Monster and with a 27″ draw at 70lbs I am shooting 327fps.
the 2010 bowtech destroyer 340 or 350 sounds like they shoot great
Anyone shoot/shot the ’08 82nd Airborne?? I know i would like this bow because ive held a lot of Bowtech’s and their grips are phenomenal!! The only thing i don’t like is the 6 1/8″ brace height 
But i will have to sacrifice that for a fast bow cuz i shoot a 27″ draw I prefer a 7″+ brace height for hunting but if you have experience w/ a brace height like this what do you think of it??
Only thing I have to say is go shoot some stuff and let it chose you. Also it doesn’t matter how fast you miss ’em.
My wife always says,”need or want”. Good luck
I know a few guys who absolutely love the 82nd airborne. One guy in particular has shot I don’t know how many species with it (Including African stuff like plains game, and a few crazy things like giraffe, leopard, you name it…)
I love my bowtech Patriot (2004 maybe). Awesome bow. Has a 330 IBO I believe. I don’t do anything fancy or special (for speed reasons), have a ~ 27″ draw and shoot regular hunting arrows and shoot close to 300 fps. BTW, 70 lbs of draw with my Bowtech feels more like 60 or 62 compared to the Matthews and other bows I have shot. 
Thanks Whittsend Whats the brace height on your Patriot?
I’m pretty sure it is a 7 inch brace height.
All I know is I can shoot very well with it when I want to. 
WOW! I don’t have a lot of years of archery hunting under my belt so from time to time when I’m not
I surf the net for info. Maybe you know all this. I didn’t. But interesting as you scroll down to the “BOW SPEED” … I didn’t know how this was calculated…so this article just 
my speed from about 302 to something considerably less.
http://www.huntersfriend.com/bowselection.htm#7-ibospeeds
Good luck with your shopping. I just happen to hunt with a PSE Stinger and it works for me….and I didn’t have to sell my second born to buy it and all the accessories.
But I did have to sell one of my .357’s which just about me as you know the guy with the most toys wins 
Great read. Thanks for sharing!! I was spoiled growing up with and uncle who fitted/adjusted etc… I really wish I had paid more attention to this stuff now.
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Great read. Thanks for sharing!! I was spoiled growing up with and uncle who fitted/adjusted etc… I really wish I had paid more attention to this stuff now.
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I’m sure the manufacturers don’t like seeing these articles. I’ve always felt my current bow is more than sufficient (1999 PSE Beast 4×4) for close range (under 30 yards) MN whitetail. Now I know it’s true. Plenty fast with plenty punch.
Not to mention when I do buy a new bow. I know that I can look at all brands and don’t need to drop $1400 when I can spend $500 and have a bow that operates along them same parameters.
Of course as a home loader (firearms), I’ve learned the same thing over the years. “Flatter shooting” blah blah blah. Majority of high velocity rifles have a very similar trajectory. They vary in ft/lbs of energy delivered to the animal, but they all follow basically the same trajectory.
Speed can be cool to have and for hunting it may help a little with yard mistakes allowing a certain pin to cover more range and for 3D it may save a 12 over a 10.
But one issue that I always look at is for hunting I strive to have a fast setup that is able to push a heavy arrow at a good speed. But with this the setup has to be able to shoot well with the arrows hitting where I want them to be not 6 or 8” off once in a while.
The most important concern with the faster radical cam bows when choosing, is having the ability to let down smoothly and quiet and after holding back forever on a buck that held up on you, all the speed in the world is not going to help when have to let down and it’s radical causing the arrow to bounce around and rattle on the padded arrow rest area from the bow ripping your arm off after holding so long. Try to find a balance of great hunting speed with the ability to let down if needed and in a stealth mode, even after the fatigue allowing you to draw again and nail the buck.
The biggest thing that i have noticed with faster bows is the little to no valley I noticed this greatly with the X-force!! You constantly have to pull on the bow at full draw, otherwise the let down will rip your shoulder out of socket 
Thanks for the great info Jeff. I would not have thought of that. So a question.
60 or 70lb bow? Is it better to run your bow at max tension(lbs) or less?? Meaning buy a 50-60 and max it out or buy a 60-70 and crank it down??
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Thanks for the great info Jeff. I would not have thought of that. So a question.
60 or 70lb bow? Is it better to run your bow at max tension(lbs) or less?? Meaning buy a 50-60 and max it out or buy a 60-70 and crank it down??
I have 60 lb I max it out and go back 1/2 turn
I knew in the “old” days, that is what we did also. Always recommended maxing the bow. Assuming that is the case, wondering if I should consider going from 70 max to 60. Thoughts??
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I knew in the “old” days, that is what we did also. Always recommended maxing the bow. Assuming that is the case, wondering if I should consider going from 70 max to 60. Thoughts??
My opinion is with the new bows as deadly as they are 60 lbs is plenty 
Lots of us “wusses” on here shoot 60 lbs or less
Kooty
For the most part the majority of the 60 pounders today are more then you will ever need for power and speed, with that said my most favorite hunting bow is a Mathews Prestige a 70 lb’er backed down to 63. I’m comfortable with shooting in the mid 60s and I like to get the 70 lb models which then allows me to set them up anyware from 60 to 70 finding the perfect feel in the bow and getting the most out of the arrows that I use, be it 62 or 70 lbs.
Today you can back them down and shoot well for hunting,
Only those who are hard core 3D shooters for score will want to keep their equipment maxed out to milk every little ounce of energy and speed they can to save a 12 ring over a 10 at a 40 or 50 yard target.
My two favorites for hunting are the Prestige and the original Mathews Switchback, I like having the most power I can get but yet be able to let down after holding forever and getting weak but be able to let down in a stealth manner, this has saved me many times on getting a second pull on a big buck below.
Also the same thing Jessica had to do this fall on her buck and that’s letting down smooth and quiet and drawing back again for the hit. 
Just some of the little things that have saved the day
sorry i forgot how badly that wuss post got derailed
When I decide to chase mule deer and antelope out west, I’ll upgrade to a 70# bow and max it out. I’ll be planning on having the ability to make a 60 yard shot. As for MN, my 30 yard capable bow is more than sufficient.
Funny, none the less.
Jeff, thanks for the info. I’m gonna go shoot the AlienX again this weekend and turn it down some and see how I like the “let off”. So far, this bow has been the best fit so far.
Damn,
see what that info started Now I have to go the “WUSS” sight and fess up. I’m right armed and handed but ripped it up as a young’in in fast pitch and football. So I’m pretty sure my bow is rated 55 -70#’s, but I’m set at 60# 
ya, that’s right. And max let off! I think the let off is still what blows! You’d think it should work in reverse too for the let down after holding for always seems like an eternity.
So all that being said, and RUGER 2506 mentioned energy (I reload high power too) I use the 100 grain head. Realizing they won’t have to same energy as a 125. So to make up for it, SPEED ( with out giving up accuracy). Speed does kill (ask the state patrol)
So with my rig, I go with the (plus or minus)60# pull, max let off, and 100 grain’ers and out to 30 yards, works great and nearly always complete pass throughs. Not sure what 40 yards would do but where I hunt I don’t get that shot. This last Saturday I stood in my stand watching a 8 or 10 point tending a doe at 40-45 yards. I even took some ‘lousy’ video. But it wasn’t my shot.(would have been with the .44 mag)
Whether a bow, gun, or car/truck, whatever, you have to know your own limits and that of your equipment
(sorry I rambled)
Flatfish 
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Lots of us “wusses” on here shoot 60 lbs or less
Gut tops that Wuss under 60 lb list. I however shoot 62lbs.
Great info here guys!
I’m shooting my switchback at 61 or 62 lbs right now. I can hold it about all day. I still need more practice at letting down quiet though
Anyone have info on the Alien X? That bow is bad a$$ The only thing i don’t like about it is the holes in the grip Other than that, 3.5 lbs, 7″ brace height, 330-340 IBO
Shot it last weekend. Love it!! I didn’t notice any comfort issues with the handle at all. It’s the #1 bow on my list right now.
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