Rage Broad Head Video Footage

  • robstenger
    Northern Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 11374
    #196853

    Click below too see some pretty coold footage fo harvests on animals. If you were on the fence before, perhaps this could sway you to the RAGE. I used to say that I would never shoot a mechanical broad head, but I’m definitely sold on these Rages. The lion footage is awesome.

    CLICK HERE to see the footage.

    Some footage is pretty graphic. Nothing too bad if you are a Hunter, but some may find it offensive.

    DANPEARSON
    Central WI
    Posts: 594
    #54940

    I must agree that is some awesome video Rob. But after watching numerous kills using the rage broadhead, IMO they still do not get the penetration of a fixed broadhead. I want a complete pass thru everytime and my Muzzy’s have not let me down. The last several deer have died within 50 yards or less, and left unbelievable blood trails. Not that I had to do much tracking as we could watch them pile up from our stand. I have shot several different kinds of mechanical broadheads and keep going back to the fixed for one reason…penetration.

    mpearson
    Chippewa Falls, WI
    Posts: 4338
    #54942

    That is an awesome video Rob. I tend to agree with Dan in that the penetration doesn’t seem to be there, but the blood trails are impressive! Some of those animals were dead running!

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22456
    #54943

    Schnikeys… check out Mirandas buck pumpin’ out !!!

    robstenger
    Northern Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 11374
    #54945

    I guess I have not seen any less penetration from the Rages then I had from other fixed blade broad heads I have tried. Granted, I have not tried all of them but with equal penetration for me and the Gaping holes and the blood trails I have personally witnessed, along with flying true as any field tip, and less wind drag for out West hunting. I will stick with my 3 Blade Rages.

    robstenger
    Northern Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 11374
    #54946

    It don’t matter the broadhead that footage gets me a lil squirrly.

    Ok a lil more squirrly if that is possible.

    C’MON BABY 28 MORE DAYS ->>——->

    jason_ramthun
    Byron MN
    Posts: 3376
    #54947

    Good stuff it’s time for lunch

    mpearson
    Chippewa Falls, WI
    Posts: 4338
    #54949

    Quote:


    It don’t matter the broadhead that footage gets me a lil squirrly.


    DANPEARSON
    Central WI
    Posts: 594
    #54950

    Over the years I kept trying the latest in mechanical broadheads from Spitfires, a couple of different Rocket broadheads from trophy ridge to the G5 Tekans. I love the idea of practicing with field tips and switching to the mechanical, but still not convinced by the rage. All the above heads killed deer too…but none of them had the penetration as I get with the fixed broadhead. Shot placement is critical and if you look at several of those shots in the video, they are right in the boiler room, but most did not get the pass thru…I want that animal bleeding out both sides. That’s just my preference. If a mechanical broadhead manufacturer comes up with one that can convince me of that, I will be the first in line to buy it. But I have not seen it yet.

    DANPEARSON
    Central WI
    Posts: 594
    #54951

    Quote:


    It don’t matter the broadhead that footage gets me a lil squirrly.


    You got that right!

    DANPEARSON
    Central WI
    Posts: 594
    #54953

    Quote:


    I guess I have not seen any less penetration from the Rages then I had from other fixed blade broad heads I have tried. Granted, I have not tried all of them but with equal penetration for me and the Gaping holes and the blood trails I have personally witnessed, along with flying true as any field tip, and less wind drag for out West hunting. I will stick with my 3 Blade Rages.


    Rob, any problems with deflection on quartering shots using the Rage? Some of the reviews I have read, people complained about deflection…hitting a rib or hide and not getting the penetration. Had same problem with the spitfire grabbing the hide and deploying too early. That was another reason I went back to the Fixed. Just wondering if you had any problems with quartering shots?

    robstenger
    Northern Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 11374
    #54954

    No problems so far. My last quartering away shot was a pass through on a 3.5 year old doe and she might of made it 30 yards. I hear ya Drelan. I never thought I would shoot a mechanical either. I tried some, hated them for reasons you posted. During my trials of these mechanical broad heads, I still would shoot fixed blades when I was hunting bucks. I would test the mechanicals out on does where it did not matter as much to me. This will be my 2nd or perhaps 3rd season using the Rages full time as my broad head. I couldn’t be any more confident in them. Yet, I understand if you are not confident in something, I would not use them either.

    erick
    Grand Meadow, MN
    Posts: 3213
    #54955

    many of them issues I have also heard though also occured from broadheads previously shot and missed AND not replacing the O-rings when they dry/crack. I will say though I will not take a sharp quartering shot with a mechanical blade I have heard the same stories. Always carry 1 muzzy with me for a reason still just incase I have something like this happen I have old reliable in the bullpen waiting!

    marendt
    Lake City, MN
    Posts: 315
    #54956

    Great footage! That gets the adrenaline pumping!!

    DANPEARSON
    Central WI
    Posts: 594
    #54958

    Well now you got me thinking. Like I said I love the idea of the mechanicals. Would you be confident in the Rage to use it elk hunting?

    Jami Ritter
    Hastings, MN
    Posts: 3065
    #54959

    I love the 3 blade Rages! Every deer I shot last year didn’t go far and the blood trails were easy to follow by flashlight, no on your knees looking for pin drops.

    Here is doe #1 from last year, look at that entrance hole, she made it maybe 30 yards… And a few close up picts.

    I’ve got a healthy supply of Rages ready and waiting!


    robstenger
    Northern Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 11374
    #54961

    Good Question Drelan. I have seen the Rage blow trough Whitetail bone, but even on TV, I can’t say that I have seen it do the same to elk. I haven’t seen many Elk Hunts with a Rage. With that said, I would still use Rage’s but would not have quite as much confidence in them as I would normally would hunting whitetail, just because I have not tested them out of my set up for that scenario.

    Another thing IMO, penetration is not just a single factor of a broad head. It is a combination of arrow, arrow speed, KE, broad head, etc. Watching those video clips from above keep in mind. Many of those archers and a majority of those clips(Wyatt Gregory, Mark & Terry Drury, & Juile Krueter) all shoot below 55 lb draws I believe. Don’t quote me on that but I do believe that is true. So the KE is not quite the same as blasting it through a 70 lb bow.

    DANPEARSON
    Central WI
    Posts: 594
    #54964

    Yeah, I was surprised to see Wyatt using the Rage. I was always told you should be using 55+ pounds to shoot mechanical. My daughter shoots Muzzy’s as well and she is pulling 44 pounds and has no problem with penetration. Would be curious to know if she could shoot the Rage. Like you said before, it’s all about confidence. If I can go back to a mechanical broadhead, it sure would save me money in the long run because I can not find a target that holds up well shooting broadheads all the time.

    prieser
    Byron, MN
    Posts: 2274
    #54966

    I pull about 65 lbs. 20 yard shot, perfectly broad side and complete pass through. Last year was the first year that I ever shot a mechanical broadhead. I am a believer until they prove to me otherwise.

    robstenger
    Northern Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 11374
    #54967

    Quote:


    veah, I was surprised to see Wyatt using the Rage. I was always told you should be using 55+ pounds to shoot mechanical.


    I’m guessing Wyatt, Tammi and Julie were shooting the traditional Rage last year???? However, Rage has designed a new broad head that they suggest using when your Kinetic Energy is below 40 ft-lbs.

    Quote:


    40KE

    For those who shoot a lesser draw weight or have a shorter draw length, both of which result in less kinetic energy, we recommend the new RAGE 40KE. The 40KE description stands for 40 foot pounds of kinetic energy the cutoff below which shooters should shoot this product. This 2-blade head features a more relaxed cutting diameter (1.5″) for enhanced penetration.

    Summary:

    RAGE 40KE 2 Blade: For those who generate less than 40 foot pounds of kinetic energy, i.e. those with a lighter draw length or lesser draw weight.


    With that being said many people have used the regular Rage head in the past(Tiffany, Julie, Tammi Gregory, Wyatt, etc.). Stacie will be switching from a 3 blade Rage this year to a 2 blade Rage 40KE. The angle of the blades are a little more sleek/ less aggressive allowing better penetration. I would think your Daughter would be just fine with either but I would have her use the 40KE Rage.

    The concept of the Rage is different then the traditional mechanicals of the past with the rear deploying blades. Their tests show no los sof KE and actually better penetration then a fixed blade, with the 3 blade having the best penetration. The 3 blade has less cutting diameter but more cutting surface and rahter then slicing a whole like the 2 blade, the 3 blade rips a round hole and is what I prefer.

    Quote:


    The SlipCam™ initiates and the blades deploy from the rear. Standard mechanical broadheads tend to lose power quickly upon impact. With the SlipCam Rear Blade Deployment System, that’s no longer a problem! Its streamlined profile provides the unerring accuracy and arrow speed of a field tip, but you also get the full deadly force of a fixed-blade broadhead!

    Advanced SlipCam™ rear blade deployment means no deflection!


    Quotes are direct from Rage’s website!

    CLICK HERE for a pretty good explanation/detail on the Rage heads.

    DANPEARSON
    Central WI
    Posts: 594
    #54971

    Thanks for the information Rob! Not sure if I am willing to make the change just yet. But will continue to do my own research and testing to see what works best for me as far as mechanical heads go.

    protourbaits
    stillwater, MN
    Posts: 2466
    #54974

    Notice how only a few of those shots were not complete pass throughs…..not for me

    prieser
    Byron, MN
    Posts: 2274
    #54975

    Quote:


    Notice how only a few of those shots were not complete pass throughs…..not for me


    I know that everyone has there own favorites, and that there is no way that everyone will ever buy the exact same broadhead/arrow/rest/sights/bow/release etc. etc. etc. That’s part of what makes opinions fun and why we have fun ribbing our buddies about why your’s is better than theirs. My question to everyone who has concerns about complete pass through is this.

    What do you think that broad head is doing inside the body cavity with every step that the deer, elk, moose, goat takes. It’s tearing the ever living cr*p out of the organs until it’s ripped out or breaks off. It is not bouncing off of the hide and dropping on the ground with no damage. Just my .02 Good research on your favorite Lip. Not picking on your either Pro…your’s was just last.

    robstenger
    Northern Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 11374
    #54978

    I hear you Prieser. When I shot my 140″ er I did not get a pass through as I hit far shoulder blade. However, I did get it deep enough and he expired real quick and that was my thought as he ran over the ridge, “Man, that Steel Force is in their and doing damage every time he moved”.

    Pro Tour I also think too many people think that just because the arrow is not sticking in the ground on the other side it did not pass through. Most of the time they are wrong. A deer’s chest cavity is not that wide. You can get about 14-16″ of penetration on a 28″ arrow and still see half the arrow sticking out and you still get a pass through leaving 2 holes to bleed out of.

    Again, I would venture to say (without going back and counting) 75% of those clips were from bows less then 55 lbs of draw. Remember broad head is not the only determining factor of KE or pass through ability.

    budaman
    North Metro, MN
    Posts: 143
    #54981

    How do these heads fly in comparison to a field tip? Right now I’m shooting 100gr. 7/8″ Rockets. I love the fact that they fly EXACTLY like my practice tips, and the penetration on these smaller heads is amazing (on one admittedly bad shot, I actually blew right through the shoulder bone, at only 64 lbs.). But the entrance/exit holes are pretty small, and the blood trails aren’t too good. I’m looking into switching, but don’t like the thought of having to re-sight for the broadheads, and possible decreased penetration.

    jason_ramthun
    Byron MN
    Posts: 3376
    #54982

    When you buy a pack of Rage they come with a Practice tip also but yes they shoot the same as a field point .

    protourbaits
    stillwater, MN
    Posts: 2466
    #54993

    But most of the time when the deer were running away you could see the opposite side and no arrow was sticking out. Sure these videos show great performance for these guys, but for the typical hunter, they aren’t getting the performance from these heads (ie blades not deploying, not penetrating the shoulder, or penetrating well, etc) I have heard good things from the 3 blade however.
    Don’t get me wrong i love the design of the heads!! I shoot the Snypers which is the same concept. But the heads are almost completely different in sharpness. Rage is just not for me but i don’t mind others shooting them

    DANPEARSON
    Central WI
    Posts: 594
    #55013

    Prieser is absolutely right…everyone has their favorites and will continue to shoot with what they are comfortable with and confident in. The only other reason I am hesitant with the rage or any other mechanical head, is just that, it is mechanical and just another factor when shooting. I guess I am not convinced after reading hundreds of reviews (check out cabelas and bass pro for reviews) that the rage will deploy as it is supposed to every time it is shot. All you need is one time for that broadhead to fail while hunting with it and you’ll throw them away. A fixed blade you do not have to worry about blades deploying too early, not deploying at all or anything like you do with the mechanical. That is just my .02 worth.

    Scott Mueller
    Coon Rapids, MN
    Posts: 125
    #55018

    I used Rage 3 blade last year on my bear and it went through the vitals and loged into the opposite shoulder,i had blood within 3 feet and a dead bear within 40 yards,the broadhead had to be cut out of the shoulder and the blades are sill intact and still straight, also completely severed a spine on a doe with a 2 blade (bad shot on my part)i am amazed by there performance,but i do agree you have to change the o rings as i’ve had a blade pop out, my ? is why do you think the typical hunter won’t get the same results with the same or close to the same equipment,just because we are not geeting paid to use them don’t sit there and tell me that i can expect poorer results when i have seen with my own eyes what to expect. Just to let you know i still can always go back to my muzzys if the Rage should let me down which i don’t foresee, Also there was a recall on some of the earlier Rage broadheads i think you can google it and it shows what to look for. Sorry i had to vent a little,but i do agree that it’s each to his own and there’s absoulutely nothing wrong with that!

    DANPEARSON
    Central WI
    Posts: 594
    #55029

    Outdraft,that is what I like about this sight. We all have opinions, experiences that we can share and hopefully learn from each other. As stated in a previous post on this thread, I would love to shoot mechanicals heads, however I have experienced and witnessed what can happen when a mechanical broadhead does not perform the way it was advertised. I would say that if I went back to shooting mechanical broadheads, Rage would be at the top of the list because I think they are probably the best mechanical head on the market. However I still am not sold on them because of the variables involved with shooting a mechanical head. With a Muzzy or any other fixed head, I don’t have to worry about blades deploying or not deploying.

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