broadheads for turkeys

  • protourbaits
    stillwater, MN
    Posts: 2466
    #196785

    just wondering what you guys shoot/recommend for turkeys. Im shooting through mesh so anything with a rear deploying head is out of the answer. Im thinking of shooting Rocket Hammerheads. 2″ cut 100 grain head. But the tip isn’t so appealing compared to the Sidewinder What do you guys think

    muskyman
    Arkansaw, Wisconsin
    Posts: 945
    #46825

    I shoot the Hammerhead for deer and If I’m understanding you right, this will not work for you to shoot through mesh. It is a mechanical head that will open as it goes through mesh, the same goes for the sidewinder. I don’t know of a mechanical that will shoot through mesh. I think you’ll have to go to a fixed if you want to shoot through mesh.

    protourbaits
    stillwater, MN
    Posts: 2466
    #46761

    no you CAN shoot Hammerheads and Sidewinders through mesh because they are an over-the-top expandable. Broadheads that deploy from the rear you CANNOT. Like Rage 2 and 3 blade, Tekans, Snypers, Gators, etc. I shot the Miniblasters my first year but they are only 75 grains and the cut is a little too small IMO for turkeys. Just to be safe for broadheads that open from the top i double band them with rubber bands that you will find at an orthodontist’s office when shooting through mesh

    Joel Nelson
    Moderator
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 3137
    #46832

    Shoot whatever you want, there’s no reason to leave the mesh down on turkeys. Make sure the blind you’re using has black backing on the inside, and match your surroundings by wearing all black. Take special care to keep your background black, no matter which way the turkey is approaching. In other words, never have more than 180 contiguous degrees of the blind open at any one time. No “holes” on opposite sides of the blind, turkeys will see you!

    Joel

    protourbaits
    stillwater, MN
    Posts: 2466
    #46833

    does anyone know if Double Bull stopped making the Matrix blind and instead called it the Primos Dark Horse?? Im guessing yes but i haven’t heard anything

    rvrat
    st cloud,mn
    Posts: 1571
    #46840

    You are correct protour. Primos bought em out maybe a little more then a year ago..you cant run to Big Lake to get poles replaced anymore.

    robstenger
    Northern Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 11374
    #46846

    I’m with Joel. I take the mesh windows down and make sure the back side is black. I wear a black face mask with a black shirt. The shirt I wear is (Dark Archer) made by Gamehide that is reversible (black to camo), it works nice when I get in the blind I just take it off turn it inside out and it is black on the other side. The face mask is the same thing, turn that around and I’m all set and ready to knock down a Gobbler.

    Here is some mor einfo on the Dark Archer Shirt.

    Quote:


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    The versatility of this shirt is incredible! It can be used as a base layer or worn entirely by itself. The self-wicking fabric helps keep you dry and cool while the lightweight knit collar and cuffs offer comfort around the neck and wrists. The Coolon material is stretchable, lightweight and has a silky feel that will make this shirt on of your absolute favorites.


    Joel Nelson
    Moderator
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 3137
    #46848

    Quote:


    does anyone know if Double Bull stopped making the Matrix blind and instead called it the Primos Dark Horse?? Im guessing yes but i haven’t heard anything


    They’re two separate models, but they may have discontinued the Matrix? The matrix had the predator camo, which I greatly preferred, and the new dark horse has a darker camo pattern. The biggest difference however was that the dark horse has ports/shooting-windows similar to the old T5 model in the back, and matrix-like center opening or split in the front of the blind. A nice feature on the dark horse is that the corners of the blind zip up, so you have a true 180 degrees of shooting, whereas on the matrix you only had a small corner or sideways “V” on each side to shoot through.

    Back to the broadheads, I’m not satisfied with anything I’ve tried thus far, and I’ve tried alot of them! I was lucky enough to field test the gobbler guillotines when they came out, and killed a few birds with them…..but I never got them to fly like they should for the max. accuracy. Shot the massive expandables for a few years and did OK.

    Last year, put two separate arrows with the two-blade rages through a big tom, and never recovered it. I pinwheeled it at 20, the thing hobbled off and stopped at 40……hit it again. Both arrows covered with blood. Trailed blood for 150 yards. After an hour of tracking, the thing spooked and pitched into a deep valley. Found where he landed and never picked up blood or the turkey again. What a heartbreaker! Where I hit that turkey, I’ll never know, but it must be 1:1000 to hit a bird with two arrows and not recover it.

    Thinking about going back to the rocket archery heads this year?

    Joel

    protourbaits
    stillwater, MN
    Posts: 2466
    #46850

    If i had the choice of Guillotines or Bullheads, i would choose Bullheads. Because of their off-set blades, the arrow spins more and more accurately. The Guillotines have a bigger cut in the 125 grain but the blades aren’t as thick as those on the 125 grain Bullhead which is very important. Plus with the Bullheads you are able to shoot more at the base of the neck and farther

    dcolsen
    Linwood, MN
    Posts: 120
    #46882

    I’ve shot the hammerheads since for almost four years now and I Love them. I have shot birds throught the mesh with them and as long as you put two binders on them they fly fine. I’ve had good success with them and like I said they flew fine for me through the mesh

    dcolsen
    Linwood, MN
    Posts: 120
    #46888

    I also tried the bullheads last year but I had to put in a couple hours worth of testing spines and arrow lengths and blade orientations to get them to shoot good. After that tho they flew awesome. So i would say if you have the time to sit there and test the flight of a dozen different arrows to get them to fly, let me know if you put’em in two pieces

    muskyman
    Arkansaw, Wisconsin
    Posts: 945
    #46954

    I think I’m going to have to put one of my old heads on and see if I can hit the target at 20-30 yardss through the mesh on my blind. I just doesn’t seem possible that they would blast through mesh without opening and/or effecting the flight of the arrow.

    dcolsen
    Linwood, MN
    Posts: 120
    #46955

    Well there is only one way to find out…. take a trip out back and shoot a couple times. Another important thing to think about is that the mesh should also be somewhat tight were you are shooting through.

    Brad Juaire
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 6101
    #46961

    Has anyone tried out the the turkey tearror made by the American Broadhead Company?

    It’s on my list to check out…

    protourbaits
    stillwater, MN
    Posts: 2466
    #46969

    Quote:


    Has anyone tried out the the turkey tearror made by the American Broadhead Company?

    It’s on my list to check out…


    I wouldn’t try them but thats my opinion. When it comes to turkey hunting, the bigger the cutting diameter the better Plus it is a fixed blade which i don’t believe in for turkey hunting I don’t know this for sure, but doesn’t the Turkey Tearror have “barbed” blades which makes it illegal for MN??

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