Anyone see any nets on the lake

Fixing your link

http://www.twincities.com/2018/05/26/abandoned-net-of-67-dead-walleye-on-lake-mille-lacs-angers-conservation-group/

I am looking over this post with my good friend who is a Mille Lacs band member and he and his wife have worked for Glifwc for years monitoring the bands fish harvest. I have spent many spring evenings with them waiting to measure and record fish from the nets and spears. Every fish is counted toward the quota calculations.

The Mille Lacs band has accounted for all their nets this year, there were about 20 nets out by the mille lacs band.

The net that was abandoned belongs to the Lac De Flambeau clan they have a bunch that come over every year from Wisconsin. The one group puts out 20 nets a nite and my friend believes they had to many nets to handle properly.

Every net has a tag so I believe they will catch up with the owner of the net and he will get a fine.

The Mille Lacs band is sick about the waste too. Prior to the supreme court ruling for the current netting rights all the Mille Lacs band wanted was a little water out in front of their reservation. They don’t like the fact that the whole lake is now open and there is not good feeling between the mille lacs band and the group from Wisconsin.

Also the Glifwc does surveys of the lake and can’t understand MN DNR not allowing a least one fish under 21 in and even a trophy greater than 28, their surveys show a strong population of walleye.

There is a lot of quota left for the mille lacs band and my friend is recommending the tribe donate some of the remaining quota back to the DNR as they have done before.

People must remember that when MN failed to settle with the band what was granted by the supreme court was a whole lot more than the band ever asked for. Minnesota residents had a chance to settle but were to stubborn.

Thats a nice story

Its sure a mess. I think as long as Minnesota residents cannot keep a fish from a MINNESOTA PUBLIC lake, the netting should cease and this whole treaty fiasco be re-visit based on needs of the 21st century. This would include the tribes being required to license vehicles used on PUBLIC highways and roads with STATE license plates. Taxing the earnings of the casinos like any other modern business. And requiring any tribe member who wants to fish or hunt on any land be required to have an appropriate license and be in season. And to top it off, make null and void any agreement or arrangement regarding the use of land or water for the sake of hertitage done in a closed forum, which means any and all public should be present to aid in the agreements or arrangements.

You need to back up on your last paragraph Mr. Beef. The residents of Minnesota were not asked to be a part of any of that bargaining. The dnr, yes. The sportspeople who SUPPORT the dnr were handily left out of the conversation and any finished agreement. Don’t lump the sportspeople in with the limp noodles who are/were supposed to act on behalf of the sportspeople. The people of Minnesota were maligned by their own dnr in that settlement, which in today’s world warrants re-visiting it….with a more complete representation on the part of Minnesota’s sportspeople.

beeflover, thank you for your post. Although I thought the article suggested it was Fond du Lac band member’s net, not Lac du Flambeau. No matter I guess.

I found what you said as basically neutral and not in favor of or of disapproval of the native netting harvest. Refreshing in my opinion.

Regarding the abandoned net…not good but as I commented previously, poor judgment or illegal practices involving fish and game knows no race. We have all heard of anglers from Illinois or any state for that matter being busted for being 200 fish over the panfish limit or having a shed full of untagged deer.

I have grown somewhat tired of those that keep blaming the government, the DNR, the tribes, for whatever problems real or perceived.

It just seems that there at those that are so adversarial. Pointing fingers at everyone else all the time.

I’m sure there are those that would admonish me for coming to a level of acceptance on some of these things. It is what it is and I have accepted that and moved on. Mille Lacs is still an incredible fishery that I treasure and am not complaining about these things out of my control, just thankful that it is such a jewel and enjoy what I have.

Perhaps soon there will be an opportunity for state licensed anglers to keep a fish or two but until then there are plenty of Mille Lacs area establishments serving walleye dinners and they are more than happy to have my business.

yawn^^^

^^^ Predictable response from someone with an abbreviated thought process.

Walleyestudent Andy Cox wrote:

^^^Predictable response from someone with an abbreviated thought process

Liberal limp wrist-ed thinking created the issue in the first place.

Blame whoever you want for what happened.

Today….I blame the DNR for not being transparent for their dealing with GLIFWC. For that matter I would like to see more transparency from GLIFWC also. How about publishing the name and fines associated with the wanton waste cases that pop up.

As I am the person who contacted the DNR and took all the pictures, I contacted the DNR the next day after the net was pulled and requested the incident report. According to MN DNR, it is a MN Band who left the net, not a WI Band. There supposedly are two from the MN Band who are going through what ever the process the band has and once the case is closed the report will be available but as of now is tied up in the case.

From my perspective there were more than 63 dead walleyes in the net so I am hoping the report provides more details. Who did the counting, etc?

Just FYI, the net was fully intact when it was pulled by the tribal DNR. It looked like a new net. I was very surprised that a net of the quality this one was would just be abandoned.

Beeflover, your ML band friend might want to check his source!!!!!

Tom Sawvell wrote:

Its sure a mess. I think as long as Minnesota residents cannot keep a fish from a MINNESOTA PUBLIC lake, the netting should cease and this whole treaty fiasco be re-visit based on needs of the 21st century. This would include the tribes being required to license vehicles used on PUBLIC highways and roads with STATE license plates. Taxing the earnings of the casinos like any other modern business. And requiring any tribe member who wants to fish or hunt on any land be required to have an appropriate license and be in season. And to top it off, make null and void any agreement or arrangement regarding the use of land or water for the sake of hertitage done in a closed forum, which means any and all public should be present to aid in the agreements or arrangements.

You need to back up on your last paragraph Mr. Beef. The residents of Minnesota were not asked to be a part of any of that bargaining. The dnr, yes. The sportspeople who SUPPORT the dnr were handily left out of the conversation and any finished agreement. Don’t lump the sportspeople in with the limp noodles who are/were supposed to act on behalf of the sportspeople. The people of Minnesota were maligned by their own dnr in that settlement, which in today’s world warrants re-visiting it….with a more complete representation on the part of Minnesota’s sportspeople.

Walleyestudent Andy Cox wrote:

beeflover, thank you for your post. Although I thought the article suggested it was Fond du Lac band member’s net, not Lac du Flambeau. No matter I guess.

I found what you said as basically neutral and not in favor of or of disapproval of the native netting harvest. Refreshing in my opinion.

Regarding the abandoned net…not good but as I commented previously, poor judgment or illegal practices involving fish and game knows no race. We have all heard of anglers from Illinois or any state for that matter being busted for being 200 fish over the panfish limit or having a shed full of untagged deer.

I have grown somewhat tired of those that keep blaming the government, the DNR, the tribes, for whatever problems real or perceived.

It just seems that there at those that are so adversarial. Pointing fingers at everyone else all the time.

I’m sure there are those that would admonish me for coming to a level of acceptance on some of these things. It is what it is and I have accepted that and moved on. Mille Lacs is still an incredible fishery that I treasure and am not complaining about these things out of my control, just thankful that it is such a jewel and enjoy what I have.

Perhaps soon there will be an opportunity for state licensed anglers to keep a fish or two but until then there are plenty of Mille Lacs area establishments serving <em class=”ido-tag-em”>walleye dinners and they are more than happy to have my business.

The two most logical posts yet.

All over the news last night, but not a top line story by any means. Funny how they covered it, as just one of those things that happens every day. ” a dog catcher was bitten today, and in other news…” Both news channels I watch said it was a WI band, but I don’t remember which one.

beeflover wrote:

The Mille Lacs band is sick about the waste too. Prior to the supreme court ruling for the current netting rights all the Mille Lacs band wanted was a little water out in front of their reservation.

Little water out in front of their reservation… yeah, just the southern half… meh.

Here is a link to the Fox 9 story. An interesting statement from it is that all the fish were salvageable….
http://www.fox9.com/news/photo-of-abandoned-lake-mille-lacs-walleye-net-reignites-catch-and-release-debate

You need to back up on your last paragraph Mr. Beef. The residents of Minnesota were not asked to be a part of any of that bargaining. The dnr, yes. The sportspeople who SUPPORT the dnr were handily left out of the conversation and any finished agreement. Don’t lump the sportspeople in with the limp noodles who are/were supposed to act on behalf of the sportspeople. The people of Minnesota were maligned by their own dnr in that settlement, which in today’s world warrants re-visiting it….with a more complete representation on the part of Minnesota’s sportspeople.

You need to back up on your last paragraph Mr. Beef. The residents of Minnesota were not asked to be a part of any of that bargaining. The dnr, yes. The sportspeople who SUPPORT the dnr were handily left out of the conversation and any finished agreement. Don’t lump the sportspeople in with the limp noodles who are/were supposed to act on behalf of the sportspeople. The people of Minnesota were maligned by their own dnr in that settlement, which in today’s world warrants re-visiting it….with a more complete representation on the part of Minnesota’s sportspeople.

I remember in the early 90’s there was a settlement blocked that looked pretty reasonable to what we have today. I believe that the Save Mille Lacs Lake Fishing Association had plenty of influence to be decisive in the close vote in 1993. The attitude was screw the Indians they should live by the same rule other American’s have.

There is irony in the fact that in the early 90’s some fish would have been great benefit to an extremely impoverished tribe. Now they have the casino’s they don’t really need it as much.

Fishing is good! I like the guys post about 100 fish days

OH shoot if I am wrong about the net being from WI. I thought my buddy was getting his info from the glifwc officer he was working for who is probably the guy who finally pulled the net. He worked the lake all spring.

If somebody needs to the angry I could tell ya about the 35 in walleye a goofball speared …
Big small mouth in the gill nets? I’ve seen northern tossed because people didn’t want to clean them. It kills me but it’s what it is.

In the big picture I’m happy that here in MN the Natives were granted a very small piece of the promises made to them in 1837, considering how many promises to the native tribes the USA has broken in its history? This is a tiny drop in the bucket compared to the travesty of corruption and discrimination against them.

That is a cute story beef. But there is one major problem. There have been countless videos made of netters coming into launches, and there is no counting of the fish. I have heard estimates that half or more of the fish that come in are not counted. I will agree that the Mills lacs band is trying to help the lake, while the Wisconsin tribes could care less.

Good luck!

If the Wisconsin tribes need to come all the way to Mille Lacs for subsistence and ceremonial Walleye is it because they have netted out their local lakes? I think you can put that silly argument to bed nobodies buying it anyway.

And PLEASE nobody has more corruption then the native politicians, not even the United States government.

You are doing a good job. Keep throwing mud against the wall i’m sure something will stick soon.

I think we should get to keep fish if their gut hooked. I really hate throwing back a fish I know is gunna die.

Maybe people could intentionally let fish eat it to abuse even this…

Oh well it still fun in my boat. good fishin

have rods will travel

beeflover wrote:

I think we should get to keep fish if their gut hooked. I really hate throwing back a fish I know is gunna die.

I don’t throw them back. Keep all the walleye to eat them.

Silly native musta got into the firewater

saugeye-steve wrote:

Silly native musta got into the firewater

You not now if I wear moccasin you will never hear the arrow until it hits yu.

saugeye-steve wrote:

Silly native musta got into the firewater

Please never post anything like this again Steve… as much as we all disagree with gill netting this comment is embarrassing to all sportsmen and women.

WalleyeEater wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>beeflover wrote:</div>
I think we should get to keep fish if their gut hooked. I really hate throwing back a fish I know is gunna die.

I don’t throw them back. Keep all the walleye to eat them.

Welcome to IDO walleye eater, I think you got the response you were looking for bud… no more trolling this thread.

saugeye-steve wrote:

Silly native musta got into the firewater

Pure ignorance. What a thing to say. Stay classy, Saugeye.

I can tell by the crushing silence that I have offended all sportsmen and sportswomen and for that I am sorry.

So, you sorry you offended people or sorry you said it?

You guys are a bunch of cry babies…
If you all love the Indians so much move up and help them out..

Term Firewater is offensive? Geez…

So do they check the nets for invasive species before they drag them through the next lake????