Looking for feedback from the local hive. Have read good things online. Sounds like a fun shooter.
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Anyone have one? CZ Scorpion EVO 3 S1 Carbine
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ajwPosts: 521May 2, 2018 at 3:35 pm #1772097
I’ve only shot an SBR in full auto (I miss my old job)and it was more controllable than an MP5, which says something! I never got a chance to tear it down to speak about serviceability…It obviously had a more plastic feel and sound to it, but once you get past that it’s pretty BA.
I’m a huge fan of CZ. Before I surrendered my guns to the local PD for destruction, the SP-01 Shadow was easily the smoothest shooting gun I owned.
May 2, 2018 at 4:08 pm #1772123Its actually a 16″ barrel so not SBR although they also make SBR’s. Just thinking of a plinker.
I currently have nothing to shoot since surrendering most of my stuff to the local PD like you. Between that and the boating accident I’m utterly defenseless.June 8, 2018 at 8:28 am #1779166If I did just purchase it I would be very excited when receiving it next week but since none of us own any guns I must be dreaming.
June 8, 2018 at 11:11 am #1779202Like you, I too do not own any guns. If I did, I would have purchased a scorpion Evo 3 S1 pistol a few weeks ago.
Who am I kidding? I’m in the process of submitting paperwork to SBR it right now, so they will know I have it along with my fingerprints, pictures, stool sample and everything else. It is a very fun gun. I do plan on making some modifications though, as do most people who buy them. The trigger is heavy and somewhat gritty. You can get new springs to decrease the trigger pull to 4-5# for less than $10 (factory is around 8-9#). The ambidextrous safety is a very poor design. It is fine for your thumb side, but in the fire position it eats into your trigger finger. It’s bad enough it gave me a blister after about 100 rounds. Tons of options out there. I am going to put a mini ak style selector on the trigger finger side. The rails on the fore end grip are sharp and sort of uncomfortable, so you might want some rail covers.
I do have to be 922r compliant to make it an sbr, so I have to replace some other parts as well.
It is awkward as a pistol, but as a carbine or sbr, it will be a ton of fun.
June 8, 2018 at 12:01 pm #1779211I do have to be 922r compliant to make it an sbr, so I have to replace some other parts as well.
I’m just spit balling here, but wouldn’t it be easier to make the Carbine an SBR versus the pistol form with a barrel swap? What all do you plan on switching to make it 922R? Seems like a tough one to tackle without being able to replace the grip and forend…Do the carbine versions have a US made trigger system? As you know, you can knock at least 4 out with just a trigger.
June 8, 2018 at 3:04 pm #1779247Without taking 922r into consideration, all you would need to do to the pistol to make it sbr is add a stock. That is easier than changing the barrel and forend.
Both the pistol and carbine version need to be made 922r compliant to be SBR’d. You can’t have any more than 10 qualifying foreign made parts. The pistol comes with 16 of these parts. The carbine would actually come with at least one more foreign made part (the stock).
You can replace both the grip and the forend. There are multiple USA made versions of both. Other readily available parts to change to USA made are: trigger, sear, hammer, disconnector, muzzle device, stock, and magazines count as 3 parts (body, follower, and floorplate).
I am planning on replacing the trigger group, muzzle device and grip. I could do less, and just use my USA magazines, but I don’t want to rely on that. I may change out the forend also.
Disclaimer: I am not an expert so don’t take any of this as gospel if you want to make an SBR – do your own research.
June 8, 2018 at 4:54 pm #1779261I’m very versed in 922R, less so the country make-up of all EVO parts. I guess I was under the impression that since the Carbine version is already compliant (all shotguns and rifles need to be, pistols do not), it would be easier to slap a new barrel on the carbine once you get your stamp.
June 8, 2018 at 5:05 pm #1779263I heard the trigger needs upgrading so that is the first thing I plan to do. I’m not monkeying with suppressors unless they become legal. I’m that unimpressed with the tax stamp scenario.
June 8, 2018 at 9:09 pm #1779282Merican Eagle, I am not well versed in 922r. I’m learning as I go on this one. In the reading that I did, I never saw it mentioned that rifles and shotguns are already compliant. That is new to me, thanks for the info. They would be easier to SBR if you didn’t want to change many parts out. I do want to customize mine, so it works for me.
June 8, 2018 at 10:33 pm #1779296Zuki, the process for a suppressor is a lot easier than most think, you just need to be ready to give up all info…
Hof, in order for semiauto shotguns and rifles to be imported into the US to be sold on the civilian market, they need to be compliant. The law does not include pistols, yet there are still certain parameters pistols need to meet.
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