Any Carpenters near the TC / Western WI area looking for side work? Deck needed

  • BoatsHateMe
    Between Pool 2 and Pool 4
    Posts: 782
    #1879452

    I’m looking at redoing out deck and would like to put something in place in the next month or so. Possibly 18×34 or so, open to materials but am thinking Trex so I don’t have the same situation again that I have now with rotting wood.

    Let me know if you are interested in this or if you know someone that would be. Cash is king.

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10598
    #1879460

    18 x 34? shock
    What type of railing system?
    Maintenance free your looking at $35K+
    Where exactly is Western MN?

    Ooops Western WI
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    riverruns
    Inactive
    Posts: 2218
    #1879461

    Holy smokes. That’s a nice deck!!

    sji
    Posts: 421
    #1879466

    18 x 34? shock
    What type of railing system?
    Maintenance free your looking at $35K+
    Where exactly is Western MN?

    Western Mn is like the area heading towards the Dakotas, the opposite of Eastern Mn which is more the area heading toward Western Wi.

    Sorry, couldn’t help myself.

    BoatsHateMe
    Between Pool 2 and Pool 4
    Posts: 782
    #1879502

    Railing were originally slated to be Maintenence free with cable. Very good chance I might scale back on the building material to save cost. I’d hoped for something in the 15K range.

    Current deck is 10 x 28’ I think. Adding a hot tub so we’d like to push out the deck a little more. Might just push out enough to accommodate the 8’ hot tub.

    RT
    Twin Cities
    Posts: 212
    #1879513

    You can’t even touch materials for a deck that size at 15k.

    Good luck.

    When we shopped around for decking materials, contractors, etc., it was an eye opener.

    Dusty Gesinger
    Minnetrista, Minnesota
    Posts: 2417
    #1879518

    I don’t think you could get footings and framing for 15. So is it twin cities or western Wisconsin, very different. I only work in the twin cities, not western Wisconsin.

    BoatsHateMe
    Between Pool 2 and Pool 4
    Posts: 782
    #1879520

    I don’t think you could get footings and framing for 15.

    As I said I’m willing to change materials to bring the cost down. 1/2 the footings area already in as are treated posts that are still good.

    So is it twin cities or western Wisconsin, very different. I only work in the twin cities, not western Wisconsin.

    Not that different for me, I live South of Prescott and work in Anoka. I wouldn’t expect that someone from Plymouth or such would make the trek but for an east sider it’s very doable.

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10598
    #1879521

    Cable railing just added a bunch.

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    #1879531

    Our 12’ x 48’ deck had some rotten boards so we had all the boards pulled off. We found that the frame was still in good shape yet so we just put new deck boards down and a new railing as well. The whole project was around $3,500. Family did the labor.

    I don’t get why anyone would spend that kind of cash for a deck. Regular treated lumber (that’s sealed) seems to hold up pretty good for the money.

    I bet you could build a pretty nice one for alot less.

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10598
    #1879532

    Boats,
    It’s not as much as the travel time as it is with licensing / Permits jurisdiction.

    bigcrappie
    Blaine
    Posts: 4368
    #1879535

    Can you put a Hot tub on a deck? Is the weight to much? I have seen them on the ground with a deck built around them but never on the actual deck.

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    #1879536

    Can you put a Hot tub on a deck? Is the weight to much? I have seen them on the ground with a deck built around them but never on the actual deck.

    Yes you sure can. We had one on a 12 x 16 deck that was 12’ off the ground. Used 6 – 6×6 posts on footings. Then tied into the header. So strong you could prolly park a car on that deck.

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10598
    #1879643

    Bigcrappie –
    If your interested I could run some calcs for you.
    Usually upsize to 2 x 12’s and shorten the spans.

    BTW I have a hot tub at the cabin we have never used. Free to good home!
    It’s heavy and I don’t deliver.

    mud
    Posts: 247
    #1879693

    Big Crappie,
    Not a good idea. All that water weight plus people, not to mention the structure that needs to be designed in, to resisit the lateral loads. Its way more involved than just a beefier joist. Best when the deck is built around the hot tub.

    BoatsHateMe
    Between Pool 2 and Pool 4
    Posts: 782
    #1879824

    It’s done all the time on a deck. Standard deck configuration supports 100 lbs per sq ft. 8×8 tub full weighs ~6000 lbs max. This deck will have posts/footings directly under the tub too boot.

    supercat
    Eau Claire, WI
    Posts: 1342
    #1879869

    I’m not sure were your 100lbs psf requirment is coming from as far as a state code. WI Residential exterior decks are designed 40psf live and 10psf dead load. Not even close to holding a hot tub. 100 psf would be a commercial spec on floor loads. I agree with eelpoutguy a deck of this size in composite would could 35k!

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11802
    #1879883

    Some code jurisdictions ban hot tubs on decks altogether. Check your local code before proceeding.

    When I redid my sisters deck the city had a whole booklet on complying with the various codes. It’s a good thing I picked that up in advance because the building inspector checked everything with a fine-tooth comb.

    And yes you need a building permit for a deck almost everywhere now.

    Grouse

    Anonymous
    Inactive
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    #1879884

    I’ve never seen a deck designed on 100 lbs.sq.ft. Footings, beams, joists, ledger would be outrageous..

    I’ve been in the trades since the 80’s.

    fishtoeat
    Chippewa Falls, Wi
    Posts: 411
    #1879885

    If you were going to put a hot tub on a deck in Wisconsin? We would want to see a structural analysis from a lumber yard or engineer to issue the permit. The UDC (appendix B) does not account for any loads (not even a roof) other than a normal deck load.

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10598
    #1879900

    Big Crappie,
    Not a good idea. All that water weight plus people, not to mention the structure that needs to be designed in, to resisit the lateral loads. Its way more involved than just a beefier joist. Best when the deck is built around the hot tub.

    You did see that I stated “run calcs”?

    buck-slayer
    Posts: 1499
    #1880223

    Have structural engineer run the numbers, build it per spec and don’t cut any corners and forget about getting a building permit.

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    #1880224

    If you were going to put a hot tub on a deck in Wisconsin? We would want to see a structural analysis from a lumber yard or engineer to issue the permit. The UDC (appendix B) does not account for any loads (not even a roof) other than a normal deck load.

    Mine was in Wisconsin and a permit was pulled. Passed final inspection. Hot tub was no problem.

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