An amazing stat

Only 10% of homes in Europe have air conditioning vs 90% of homes in this country. Maybe we have it pretty good here after all eh.

Air conditioning is mostly an American thing. Even many modernized countries around the planet do not have it in most residential homes. Some areas in Australia have it.

The primary reason most homes/buildings in Europe don’t have it is because the infrastructure is so old. They just aren’t retrofitted for it.

Even with all the problems, I still feel we live in the best country on earth! Granted it could be better still.

It makes you really think about our tolerance levels over here. When it gets hot, there’s how many warnings for heat….. What do they do in other countries? Drink water and try not to worry about it?

The News is really hysterical over this heat wave.
100 degrees in minneapolis in July. Well that’s never happened before has it?
104 in Dallas?
Yea it’s hot, but it has been hot before.

Just had this convo tonight with a friend who grew up in London. Northern and Central Europe has been historically moderate for temps. Plus, the houses are built differently to handle the heat and stay cooler. Very few AC’s anywhere to be found.

He was just in England and it was 72 and partly cloudy everyday…said he’s too used to living over here and wanted AC!

Yes there average warm temperatures are far below the US hence much less demand for AC. Also they do not inhabit deserts like we do.

Tom schmitt wrote:

Yea it’s hot, but it has been hot before.

Actually, no it hasn’t been this hot for this long before. And several locations have broken not only their all time high temperature reading, but also their all time low over night temperature reading. It hasn’t dropped below 90 degrees at night in Phoenix since late June.

We’re also in record drought status since May 1 here in MN. Not a good record to be breaking IMO

supercat wrote:

Also they do not inhabit deserts like we do.

Bingo, and make golf courses on them, another subject. Also our obesity rates may have a factor, that and we are just soft.

John Rasmussen wrote:

and make golf courses on them, another subject.

Ha. I think you should start another thread. Or maybe that could be Dutchboy’s Friday topic later this week: watering grass and growing almonds in a desert.

If global warming was a real thing, wouldn’t we have less snowflakes?

Brian Klawitter wrote:

If global warming was a real thing, wouldn’t we have less snowflakes?

HEY-O!

gimruis wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Tom schmitt wrote:</div>
Yea it’s hot, but it has been hot before.

Actually, no it hasn’t been this hot for this long before. And several locations have broken not only their all time high temperature reading, but also their all time low over night temperature reading. It hasn’t dropped below 90 degrees at night in Phoenix since late June.

We’re also in record drought status since May 1 here in MN. Not a good record to be breaking IMO

Actually it has been hotter for longer MANY times over the life of this planet. Just because we couldn’t document it as a record, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Its funny how we base everything off our snapshot in time, that we started monitoring and recording temps and rainfall etc etc etc… and base our “science” off of it. Naive.

big_g wrote:

Actually it has been hotter for longer MANY times over the life of this planet. Just because we couldn’t document it as a record, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Its funny how we base everything off our snapshot in time, that we started monitoring and recording temps and rainfall etc etc etc… and base our “science” off of it. Naive.

I don’t disagree. I was only responding to his comment that “it has been hot before.”

Are humans having an effect on the climate? Most certainly. But we’re also in a natural warming trend, so no matter what we do it’s going to continue to get hotter.

But our planet will handle it just fine and be around a lot longer than us. She’s going to chew us up and spit us out just like it has with countless other species over time.

Humans have been around for about half of the time in the graph below.

It clearly shows that the Earth’s temp changes with or without us.

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According to that chart, the current warming trend started about 20,000 years ago. I would think maybe the last 100 years or so and forward could be attributed to human activity ? A chart showing the start of the industrial revolution or the addition of automobiles, would be more representative to mankind’s influence.

Yep, and if you go back and look at the last 65,000,000 years, you’ll see the Earth has been much, much hotter than it is now.

If humans cause a small change in the Earth’s temp it won’t be the end of the planet. It might be for us (drought, famine,etc) but she won’t care and continue on.

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Based on what I have read client scientists (not the ones screaming the global warming stuff) have said we are due for another ice age because it happens like every 20,000 years or something like that.

CaptainMusky wrote:

Based on what I have read client scientists (not the ones screaming the global warming stuff) have said we are due for another ice age because it happens like every 20,000 years or something like that.

We’re still in one that started 3,000,000 years ago, but we’re currently in a warming phase (Interglacial period). But if history repeats itself it won’t be long until the temps plummet again, so maybe a little man-made CO2 could be a good thing

Don’t tell Climate Czar John Kerry this….

Everyone knows its hot out because of gas powered weed whips.

Here’s another chart going much farther back in time.

We don’t have a climate problem, we have a people problem.

Too many people are trying to live in inhospitable places that don’t have enough water to support them, have the tendency to burn, and they live in areas that can’t produce enough food for them.

They live there because they like the heat, but whine when it’s too much.

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Matt Moen wrote:

Plus, the houses are built differently to handle the heat and stay cooler. Very few AC’s anywhere to be found.

forgive my ignorance but how do you build a house differently to stay cooler? less windows?

Stirring the pot here, but one of these two seems to have credibility and the other one is lying.

Ryan Maue, the former top climate scientist at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration…noted heat waves aren’t new: “Without climate change, July’s summer heat in the U.S. Southwest would have been ‘virtually impossible,'” Maue tweeted Tuesday. “I guess that’s true if you memory hole 1925, 1930s, 1950s, 1980, 1985, 1990, 1995, 2012, 2020, etc. and the rest of the almanac.”

This is a response to Hillary Clinton’s tweet:
Hot enough for you?
Thank a MAGA Republican.
Or better yet, vote them out of office.

picklerick wrote:

Stirring the pot here, but one of these two seems to have credibility and the other one is lying.

Ryan Maue, the former top climate scientist at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration…noted heat waves aren’t new: “Without climate change, July’s summer heat in the U.S. Southwest would have been ‘virtually impossible,’” Maue tweeted Tuesday. “I guess that’s true if you memory hole 1925, 1930s, 1950s, 1980, 1985, 1990, 1995, 2012, 2020, etc. and the rest of the almanac.”

This is a response to Hillary Clinton’s tweet:
Hot enough for you?
Thank a MAGA Republican.
Or better yet, vote them out of office.

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It thought it was priceless when the Climate Czar John Kerry was asked under oath, if he owned a Jet… (they recently sold one).. and he said no. Then he was asked, didn’t you recently sell a jet, after you were questioned prior ?? His answer… “well my wife owned a jet, that I rode in”…

Gitchi Gummi wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Matt Moen wrote:</div>
Plus, the houses are built differently to handle the heat and stay cooler. Very few AC’s anywhere to be found.

forgive my ignorance but how do you build a house differently to stay cooler? less windows?

That’s one. Wall thickness and material. Sun orientation.
Roofing material.

This thread is starting to resemble the old Covid threads with all the graphs and charts.

I had a geography teacher in college that said out soffit width was nowhere near enough due to sun angle etc in the summer. It’s cheap to build them as they are but that is another problem it would block a lot of sunlight getting in windows.

Also, building a house in earth (think basement as main living) as opposed to on top of it, helps keep it cooler.