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Full draw wrote:

stopping the fentanyl

I find the talk about the border security and tariffs in relation to fentanyl pretty ironic.

When we talk about the gun violence problem in America and gun control, we say guns aren’t the problem. Its the people/mental health that are causing the problem.

When we talk about fentanyl, you all are suddenly flipping the scripts. The people (drug users) are no longer the problem, its the drugs being brought over the border that are the problem.

So what is it? Is it the drug user/gun owner that’s the problem? Or is it the drug/gun? Guns dont kill people, people kill people. Well that goes for drugs too. Drugs don’t do themselves, people do the drugs.

Drugs are 100% illegal. Guns are not. People taking fentanyl unbeknownst to them and dying. That’s your take on the fentanyl problem ?

Jimmy wrote:

When we talk about the gun violence problem in America and gun control, we say guns aren’t the problem.

Very simple Jimmy. 2nd Amendment. End of conversation.

Jimmy wrote:

So what is it? Is it the drug user/gun owner that’s the problem? Or is it the drug/gun? Guns dont kill people, people kill people. Well that goes for drugs too. Drugs don’t do themselves, people do the drugs.

Jimmy, I somewhat get you point on this one. No illegal drug users, No market for illegal drugs. Like most criminals I don’t have a lot of compassion for them when their bad decisions end up bad for them. The one difference is that not many gun owners commit violent crimes to fund their gun habits. I cant say the same for drug users.

Jimmy wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Full draw wrote:</div>
stopping the fentanyl

I find the talk about the border security and tariffs in relation to fentanyl pretty ironic.

When we talk about the gun violence problem in America and gun control, we say guns aren’t the problem. Its the people/mental health that are causing the problem.

When we talk about fentanyl, you all are suddenly flipping the scripts. The people (drug users) are no longer the problem, its the drugs being brought over the border that are the problem.

So what is it? Is it the drug user/gun owner that’s the problem? Or is it the drug/gun? Guns dont kill people, people kill people. Well that goes for drugs too. Drugs don’t do themselves, people do the drugs.

We do have this thing called the 2nd amendment and it has a phrase that says “shall not be infringed” in it.

China supplies the precursors through the Cartels. Do you think that is a strategic move? I certainly do.
So in believing so it is my belief to stop it anyway we can.

Apparently the Trump administration has the same beliefs.

BigWerm wrote:

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We DO NOT need to attack, or even threaten an attack, on any other free nation – NO

I have not seen or heard this anywhere, can you link Trump threatening attacking an ally or free nation? One of his biggest positives is being the most anti-war president of my life. The Canada and Greenland stuff has all been economic centric from what I’ve seen, no offense but if we wanted to do it militarly it’d already be over.

Yes Trump repeatedly saying on TV that “we will get Greenland by any means necessary”

Sounds to me, like a threat to a free democratic country.

Trump saying repeatedly we will devastate the Canadian economy so they will have to become our 51rst state.

Sounds like a threat to me .

YOU SAY: “no offense but if we wanted to do it militarly it’d already be over.”

YES Thats the question – AYE ? We in Canada are wondering would Americans really support Trump in a military attack on Greenland , Canada, Panama ??

Trump certainly would like to , he has started an attempt to destroy our economy and we do not hear any push back from our American “friends”

?????

I suggest grabbing your guns, hoard some food and prepare for the barbarian invasion from the south.

we have let this country go to chit and unchecked for the last 4 years. the government waste is mind boggling, and the programs that were being funded were insane! the tariffs on our goods we export are pretty one sided and not in our favor. It’s like when I was a kid, dad would say, put your old clothes on, because before we get this mess cleaned up, we’re going to get dirty.

Reelpro your first post on this site was advertising your fishing business to Americans. Not sure it’s a smart business move to get into politics debate with those potential customers on either side of the fence. Might be better to sticking to fishing topics on an outdoor thread. Just sayin.
Carry on fellas.

Reelpro??? I glad i never tasted cnn’s garbage, it must be addicting and then it brainwashes u over time.

My take on trumps tariffs are more of a poker analogy.
Make his point and see who blinks first.
Trump holds all the cards, we’ll see who blinks first.
This is that “organic” kind of movement. Why he was elected in the first place. People get tired of the bs and vote for change. It takes time and patience, whether in America or somewhere else. Germany is already on the brink. Canada is not far behind. We’ll see who they elect long term in October and whether or not they are ready for something besides trudeau’s nonsense
My humble opinion

Watching the speech last week, with all the talk about illegal murdering and raping innocent people, you think the entire US should fear to walk outside of their homes.
How many murders in MN are actually committed by illegals? Probably not many. It’s just a way to put fear into the voters.

I certainly would like to see the illegals reigned in. I know a few drywall guys and roofing guys that basically went out of business because they couldn’t compete with the low wages. However, I blame the people that hire them at 30 cents a sheet for taking the profits and willingly paying cash, knowing they are breaking the law.

Now, because the new administration is trying to get some sort of dumb —SS way of negotiating done, the middle class will pay through the nose for what they hope might happen.

Yes first post was advertising to Canadas friends, neighbors and good trading partners.

Still hopeful and optimistic that will still be the case going forward and a negotiation that is good for American and Canadian business can happen – I guess when Trump will allow it.

As said, I have many many friends and family in the USA and normally never really “do politics” but put when your country is threatened by the worlds biggest military power saying it wants to take over your country – and now our government is treating that as a real threat – kinda makes you wonder about what American people think of about going to war and attacking other nations.

I guess maybe most Americans do not really believe it is a possibility ?? its just a bad joke ??

Or they just don’t really care one way or another ???

Just surprised we do not see any Americans speak out against Trumps threats to take over other free countries , Panama, Greenland, Canada – always sort of thought USA and Canada were on the same page about Freedom of all people and democracy vs dictatorships.

FYI – attacking and taking over another country is a dictatorship rule of those people.

So Question for board members that seem to not like anything I have to say: –

Would you support Trump in a military attack on Panama, Greenland, Canada ??

kidfish wrote:

Watching the speech last week, with all the talk about illegal murdering and raping innocent people, you think the entire US should fear to walk outside of their homes.
How many murders in MN are actually committed by illegals? Probably not many. It’s just a way to put fear into the voters.

I certainly would like to see the illegals reigned in. I know a few drywall guys and roofing guys that basically went out of business because they couldn’t compete with the low wages. However, I blame the people that hire them at 30 cents a sheet for taking the profits and willingly paying cash, knowing they are breaking the law.

Now, because the new administration is trying to get some sort of dumb —SS way of negotiating done, the middle class will pay through the nose for what they hope might happen.

Everyone wants capitalism and free market economics…until they don’t.

If I can hire someone to hang rock, shingle, etc…who is faster, does a better job, at a third of the cost, then so be it. I want the best possible product at the best possible rate. It’s difficult to find others to compete in a timely manner in some places.

Would you support Trump in a military attack on Panama, Greenland, Canada ??

Nobody has said a word about military action. To be honest we have enough problems down here to worry about your fears.

I am an honorably discharged vet, and my days are over, but I feel bad for the boys that could potentially be called to serve.

kidfish wrote:

Watching the speech last week, with all the talk about illegal murdering and raping innocent people, you think the entire US should fear to walk outside of their homes.
How many murders in MN are actually committed by illegals? Probably not many. It’s just a way to put fear into the voters.

I don’t care if the # is only 1. It’s 1 more than should have happened by someone who illegally entered this country. I did not place my vote based on fear. I placed it on what is right and what is wrong. Illegals simply walking across the border is wrong. Worse yet encouraging it for nothing more than the hope of a future vote is even more wrong. I’d like to see you try and illegally enter Mexico and live off their tax payer $’s and see how long and well that last. Go ahead and give it a try. Maybe post a blog about it so people can witness how well it works. Maybe if it works out well some others can follow you there.

If I can hire someone to hang rock, shingle, etc…who is faster, does a better job, at a third of the cost, then so be it. I want the best possible product at the best possible rate. It’s difficult to find others to compete in a timely manner in some places.

Seeing what I see on residential jobs all the time, they may do it faster and cheaper, but I can attest that most of the work is far from a better job. Soft spots in roofs, drywall hung before installing insulation, wires cut, etc.

everyone is entitled to their opinion, but to start military action to peaceful country? I really question if you have any common sense.

Reelpro wrote:

Just surprised we do not see any Americans speak out against Trumps threats to take over other free countries , Panama, Greenland, Canada – always sort of thought USA and Canada were on the same page about Freedom of all people and democracy vs dictatorships.

Well from my perspective Trump has never remotely threatened military action, I’m sorry if your media is telling you otherwise. But as we saw during covid, Canada is already living under a dictatorship. Stealing kids from homes, persecuting churches, closing and confiscating peoples banks accounts, banning pistols etc. etc.

Reelpro wrote:

Would you support Trump in a military attack on Panama, Greenland, Canada ??

I don’t know one single American who would support that. Period. And again it’s never been threatened. We are trying to get our house in order, and part of that is requiring allies, like Canada, that have profited by proxy for decades to finally pull their own weight in trade, defense, and other issues we share in the benefits of.

I can’t quite wrap my head around the trade war with Canada. The lumber, oil, electricity, etc.

China, it’s easy to see. Even Mexico too. China supplies the drug ingredients and Mexico illegally sells or distributes it with cartels. Going after them seems to make some logic.

Making trade enemies with our neighbor to the north just doesn’t make sense to me. Maybe I am missing something.

gim wrote:

I can’t quite wrap my head around the trade war with Canada. The lumber, oil, electricity, etc.

China, it’s easy to see. Even Mexico too. China supplies the drug ingredients and Mexico illegally sells or distributes it with cartels. Going after them seems to make some logic.

Making trade enemies with our neighbor to the north just doesn’t make sense to me. Maybe I am missing something.

There is reporting that the cartels have moved into Canada.
It’s just another way to move fentanyl across our borders.
Luis Chaparro is a very good source on what the cartels are up to.

They will allow just about anybody (Drug Cartel ) to get a student visas and they don’t Track/ Background check them so they leave for the states with the drugs.

There’s no denying the argument of demand side economics when it comes to the fentanyl and other drug BS.

We could chase our own tails, tank the economy, and still not touch the issue. Other countries/organizations know this. We are a wealthy country with hundreds of thousands of people who will pay top dollar to chase their next high. DT isn’t pushing some button to fix that. The reality is that there’s a huge demand for both fentanyl and other illegal drugs by the citizens of the United States. We are a long ways from overcoming that. Doesn’t anyone else think it’s a bit of a reach to think the “magic answer” is a bunch of tariffs on Canada? I’d call that a stretch at best.

buckybadger wrote:

Doesn’t anyone else think it’s a bit of a reach to think the “magic answer” is a bunch of tariffs on Canada? I’d call that a stretch at best.

I do. That’s why I questioned it.

I can see the reasoning (fentanyl) with China and Mexico. With Canada, I’m skeptical that there is enough ample evidence that they are a significant source of the problem.

Maybe he doesn’t think other countries are doing their share to stop or slow the flow. Kind of like letting other countries support terror groups or turn a blind eye to them yet send them millions or billions in foreign aid. I’m guessing Trump wanted Canada and Mexico to do something specific and they said no. That was their choice and the Tariffs are the response. So now Canada responds with their own Tariffs and the game of chicken is on.

Please attach one instance of Trump threatening to take Greenland by any means ? Or Canada, threatened with destroying their economy to become the 51st State. Them are some whoppers of fear mongering.

The tariffs are not only in response to Fentanyl and borders… it also is in response to ignored trade agreements and deficits.

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So tariffs on Canada are not about fentanyl, but they’re about the trade deficit…or some combination.

Alright, but if the deficit is part of the reasoning than why in the he** would we start with the country that we have only the 9th largest deficit with, who is/was also generally perceived as an ally? Based on that graphic there are 7 other countries besides Mexico who we could slap increased tariffs on to right the deficit.

The goal posts keep moving on tariffs. Not so ironically, we are seeing movement (up) on prices and inflation, while we also see movement (down) in our stock market.

Dutchboy wrote:

Will having a buisness person for President be better than a career polititian? I think so but time will tell.

Business owner who bankrupted a casino ?? LOL

gim wrote:

With Canada, I’m skeptical that there is enough ample evidence that they are a significant source of the problem.

Almost 1/2 oz was seized in January!

Also the tariffs are a negotiating tool, except when they aren’t

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