<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Mike Schulz wrote:</div>
well said DT…100% Like I have said before, and had a nice chat with Mark yesterday, we have all done some really stupid stuff and we are still here. Wiser for sure. I trust my son, but no one else. I will make sure to really reinforce this since he is inexperienced.
excellent advice..
I’ve been in law enforcement for over 22 years. I understand and have responded my fair share of fatal crashes over the years, both bike and vehicle. But I’m still going to ride. Always need to be watching and trust no one.
DT
Then you know better than most that situations exist in which no level of awareness or vigilance or personal safety can save you. In those situations, motorcyclists are significantly more likely to suffer major injury or death. There’s just no two ways about that.
Having been in a terrible motor cycle accident 35+ years ago… at 35 mph… the main reason I don’t ride anymore is I cannot take the chance that a deer or a dog or even a turkey, will suddenly appear on the road when I am at speed and cause a crash. Never mind the people on their phones oblivious to other full sized vehicles around them. We are all gonna perish someday, I just don’t want to up my odds.
Well I got home from work and the bike was gone and panic ensued! He went all on his own from our house to sauk rapids and road around with this friends. He bought an excellent helmet and just got home a few minutes ago. Killed it twice at the end of our street because it’s a bit of an incline but no other issues.
awesome!!
Did you take it for a ride yet ?
Did you take it for a ride yet ?
No, I’m not licensed at all but I trust myself on it. Apparently he took it out yesterday too the little turd. He said it was so much fun with his friends which makes me happy. He hasn’t gotten a good riding jacket yet but he at least looked today. The helmet is excellent. His friend who rode it to our house when he bought it said that was the easiest bike to learn on so that’s good news. I’m happy and scared at the same time but I can’t bubble wrap my kids I just have to trust them and I do.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Bearcat89 wrote:</div>
Did you take it for a ride yet ?No, I’m not licensed at all but I trust myself on it. Apparently he took it out yesterday too the little turd. He said it was so much fun with his friends which makes me happy. He hasn’t gotten a good riding jacket yet but he at least looked today. The helmet is excellent. His friend who rode it to our house when he bought it said that was the easiest bike to learn on so that’s good news. I’m happy and scared at the same time but I can’t bubble wrap my kids I just have to trust them and I do.
Hop on that thing and take it for a rip.
Bought my first Honda 305 scrambler at 15. He’ll be fine.
Well I got home from work and the bike was gone and panic ensued!
Apparently he took it out yesterday too the little turd.
is he not supposed to be riding it without your knowledge or something? I’m confused.
is he not supposed to be riding it without your knowledge or something? I’m confused.
No, not really I just didnt even know he had his permit already. He never told me so I thought he was just out riding around illegally which I am glad he wasnt.
well I bought a honda CB 160 in my senior year, had it one month, had a close call scared me, sold it. Crashed as a passenger a couple of years later, 1968 Saw many horrific accidents as a first responder. Not for me, so much fun they are but in my mind a big but,
Risk is all around us. Motorcycles are dangerous. Yes people die on them. People also die in pick ups, side x sides, boats and people even die in their sleep. Proper training narrows the risk.
Show your kid this article to reiterate the importance of not speeding
Oh I’ve told him and he knows it’s impounded if I hear he’s goofing around. I have lots of eyes and ears around here. He’s not stupid. It’s only a 300 so won’t go stupid fast but fast enough.
Now if I can get him to stop eating my ice cream…
I was driving to work this morning and was detoured from my normal route. There were about 20-30 cop cars, a few ambulances and firetrucks blocking a whole intersection. They had a white sheet laying over what I presume was a body. I just came to find out a motorcyclist was hit by an SUV and it immediately made me think of this thread. Very sad deal. The speed limit on this road is 40 which just goes to show you driving on slower roads doesn’t really lessen the chance of an accident on those things.
Yeah Gitchi that is a sad deal for sure. I think the comment made drive like you are invisible is really important. Just have to be extra cautious, but no matter how careful you are that doesnt mean you will not have issues.
Update – DPD just announced the motorcyclist was pronounced dead at the scene. The report I heard is he was a UMD student, wearing a helmet, and alcohol not believed to be a factor.
There was a bad one on Saturday in Minnetonka, passenger lived but the driver didn’t.
No helmet and alcohol was said to be a factor.
72 and still riding my Harleys
U Da Man!!!
What good does posting every motor cycle accident do ? That’s going to accomplish 0.
Marked safe from riding my Harley today. 
DT
What good does posting every motor cycle accident do ? That’s going to accomplish 0.
I do have to disagree. Not talking about it doesn’t make the problem go away. I wonder if people that ride understand just how dangerous those things really are, especially those that don’t wear a helmet “for their freedom”
There was yet another motorcycle fatality in Duluth just yesterday…
Does posting accident counts make the problem go away ?
Everything’s dangerous to some extent . Guns , smoking , drinking , being fat, boats, walking across the street. Being fat probably kills more than bikes . You expose yourself to risks everyday and some will choose more than others . That’s what makes the country great is freedom to do almost whatever want . I’m with bearcat posting about it everyday ain’t helping .
How many people die slow deaths from being fat everyday and the complications it brings ? I bet more than bikes.
especially those that don’t wear a helmet “for their freedom”
That’s the key part here. I see wearing a helment just as I see wearing a PFD in a boat. Its not mandatory (at least here it isn’t) but anyone with a brain can see that it will significantly increase your odds of survival if you wear one, even if you go your whole life without needing it.
If someone wants to ignore that data because they think its an inconvience or in the name of personal freedom, I could care less. I say let them be stupid about it. Its their life, not mine. I just don’t agree with it.
Maybe make people pay more for insurance if they’re not gonna do these simple safety things while participating? If it affects their wallet, that might make them think twice about it.
That’s what makes the country great is freedom to do almost whatever want . I’m with bearcat posting about it everyday ain’t helping .
Count me in the camp that this has gone on to far. I used to ride, put mine down being stupid. No more than a couple small scars to show for it. Never rode with a helmet, neither does my dad who has been riding for 60 years. Point is we can do what we want to do. When Capt made this thread I bet he expected some of this but 3 pages of us looking down our noses at him is enough I think.
That’s the key part here. I see wearing a helment just as I see wearing a PFD in a boat. Its not mandatory (at least here it isn’t) but anyone with a brain can see that it will significantly increase your odds of survival if you wear one, even if you go your whole life without needing it.
If someone wants to ignore that data because they think its an inconvience or in the name of personal freedom, I could care less. I say let them be stupid about it. Its their life, not mine. I just don’t agree with it.
Before I get sucked in I will say this. Maybe guys that decide to ride without a helmet just don’t want to have someone wipe their back side for them if they are in an accident, they would rather be gone than stuck in a chair. I can understand that logic even if others don’t.
As I said in my post, this thread crossed my mind right as I drove by the fatal scene yesterday. Just trying to shine some awareness that fatal accidents happen quite frequently, and driving with a helmet or on slower roads isn’t going to save you. As someone who has had a family member have a catastrophic motorcycle accident, I probably recognize it as much more of the real risk than others who think they’re invincible.
I’m with B-man. Closing your eyes and pretending its not a real risk just exacerbates the problem.
Driving by a fresh accident scene where you see a blanket draped over a body is quite the moving experience I hope none of you have to see.
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