Abandoned Gill net Spirit Island

anyone else hear or see the abandoned Gill net by spirit island?

I’ll bite. Where was this seen or reported.

Likely a story from years past.

spoke with someone fishing around the island last weekend who stated they lost quite a few lures on it. they also said its a known about by other muskie anglers. not trying to bait anyone, just wondering if anyone else has heard anything? Sounds like a one off if no one else has heard anything

If true, then it’s most likely a special survey net. Both the DNR and the Mille Lacs band will set nets outside of the traditional survey nets used during the assessments. They have special forage gillnets with small diameter openings, ones for bass, tullibee, etc.

I’m guessing this is most likely a rumor and if it’s not, I think it’d be far more likely it’s a DNR survey net than a member of the bands set out for illegal harvest…or a white guy poaching for that matter.

Tribal harvest is extremely regulated. The DNR is present and literally checks each fish harvested via gillnet by the bands and documents it.

joneser wrote:

Tribal harvest is extremely regulated. The DNR is present and literally checks each fish harvested via gillnet by the bands and documents it.

This should get interesting!

Timmy wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>joneser wrote:</div>
Tribal harvest is extremely regulated. The DNR is present and literally checks each fish harvested via gillnet by the bands and documents it.

This should get interesting!

No doubt, dude needs to quit reading Star Tribune and chugging the Kool-aid.

joneser wrote:

Tribal harvest is extremely regulated. The DNR is present and literally checks each fish harvested via gillnet by the bands and documents it.

I’ve watched tribal netting more than a dozen times. Both on Mille Lacs and other ceded lakes. I have never seen a MN DNR officer or creel clerk there. Sometimes there is a tribal officer there. They do not check/count/measure fish. At least not from what I have seen. Most seem to act as a guard keeping people from getting too close to take pics and videos. Basically securing the area. Tribal netters report their catch. Or I should say are suppose to report their catch. The numbers are not verified by the MN DNR or any other 3rd party. It’s all on the honor system.

Also important to note the most tribal netters I have seen on Mille Lacs have WI or MI license plates. They net, load up, and disappear.

-J.

joneser, please provide evidence to back up your claim as I, like Jon, have seen and have evidence that this is not the case.

Two years ago I was responsible for the picture that was widely circulated my PERM and made it’s way to the media outlets of the abandoned net and the dead walleyes being pulled over the side of the boat when the DNR and Band came to pull the net. If there was such good accounting how did this happen? I know the outcome of that abandoned net as I hounded the DNR until I got the final report on that situation.

I have been to the CC access multiple times during netting and have yet to see the DNR working hand in hand with the bands to track/count fish, let alone their nets. I have seen the tribal conservation officer sitting in his vehicle at the access but not counting fish or verifying that each and every net has been pulled.

In the short time I have had a cabin on ML, that is the 2nd abandoned net to have come across in the CC area. For that one I just happened to be lucky enough to be in the area fishing when they came to pull the net and took some pictures.

So I challenge you to back up that statement with documented evidence that the DNR is present and literally checks each fish harvested.

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joneser wrote:

Tribal harvest is extremely regulated. The DNR is present and literally checks each fish harvested via gillnet by the bands and documents it.

I’m late to the party & looks like the entertainment is now gone..

But, I agree with the above two posts. Every video, every picture, & every experience I have seen, there are exactly ZERO MN DNR guys counting anything! At most, a Tribal CO keeping other non natives out!

Wait, what???? You guys aren’t saying there isn’t any accountability & transparency with the Mn DNR and GLIFWC are you?

The horror.

gonefishin wrote:

joneser, please provide evidence to back up your claim as I, like Jon, have seen and have evidence that this is not the case.

So I challenge you to back up that statement with documented evidence that the DNR is present and literally checks each fish harvested.

PLEASE NO! I don’t think anyone wants another Joneser thread.

Thanks for that post, Phil. Seems when a guy like me reports this to the media – Wcco, KSTP, Kare11, Fox 9 they will not touch it. I’m basically treated like a white racist out to ruin some tribes next meal. Until that changes, we are doomed.

-J.

joneser wrote:

If true, then it’s most likely a special survey net. Both the DNR and the Mille Lacs band will set nets outside of the traditional survey nets used during the assessments. They have special forage gillnets with small diameter openings, ones for bass, tullibee, etc.

I’m guessing this is most likely a rumor and if it’s not, I think it’d be far more likely it’s a DNR survey net than a member of the bands set out for illegal harvest…or a white guy poaching for that matter.

Tribal harvest is extremely regulated. The DNR is present and literally checks each fish harvested via gillnet by the bands and documents it.

Aah, I think you’re wrong from what I have read in the past.

Jon, yup and not just the media.

I new it would not get any traction unless some organization with a little clout was involved so therefore contacted PERM and let them use their resources to get the story out. Even then I was shocked that the local stations broadcasted the picture and the abandoned net as the bands have enormous political and monetary clout.

joneser wrote:

Tribal harvest is extremely regulated. The DNR is present and literally checks each fish harvested via gillnet by the bands and documents it.

Wow this takes the cake! Even compared to all of the inaccurate political posts from both sides this is still by far the most false statement yet.

Joe Scegura wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>joneser wrote:</div>
Tribal harvest is extremely regulated. The DNR is present and literally checks each fish harvested via gillnet by the bands and documents it.

What if joneser’s comment was tongue-in-cheek? That was my first thought, because it was so wildly inaccurate…