Aaron Rodgers Will Be Crying Again

mahtofire14 wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>buckybadger wrote:</div>
The Packers reportedly offered him the same money but he opted to want out. I don’t think Rodgers contract had anything to do with this. Adams turns 30 this season. It’s probably not the worst situation for the Packers. Julio Jones and Landry are still on the market + the draft picks all for cheaper than Adams.

Jordy Nelson, Greg Jennings, and James Jones all pulled the same move to find out the grass isn’t always greener. He’s going to make a ton of money in LA. He’s not going to see many playoff games though in that loaded division.

Certainly not the end of the world for the Pack, but to think he’d pick Carr over Rodgers, even with his history with Carr, blows my mind. Makes you wonder if they really did offer him the same amount of money.

he’s a twentysomething millionaire, two words, VEGAS BABY!

At $150 million over the next three seasons Aaron is crying all the way to the bank while choosing the next stunning brunette to share his misery.

BigWerm wrote:

How many pro bowls have those guys made? You’re saying Rodgers can make anyone a Pro Bowler when that has clearly not been the case. Amari Rodgers (tbd), J Mon Moore, St Brown, MVS, Deangelo Yancey, Malachi Dupre, Trevor Davis, and Ty Montgomery are the WR drafted since Davante. And how many Free Agent pro bowl caliber tight ends have they signed that didn’t do much? Jerad Cook and Jimmy Graham off the top of my head, I’m sure there’s more.

Greg Jennings (2), Jones (0), Cobb (1), Nelson (1), Adams (5)…but I really don’t think the first 4 guys were individually elite talents, rather they were skilled WRs that Rodgers elevated. In fact, I’d argue that with the exception of Adams, the Vikings have had significantly better WR talent over those same years that’s been held down by lesser QB play.

And I suppose “anyone” really should be “anyone with starting WR level talent.” That’s why my list of WRs included guys in round 1-3. J’Mon Moore and Malachi Dupre don’t offer much for even a great QB to work with. It’s fair to critique Rodgers as being too picky at times in who he throws the ball to, but he’s also won 4 MVPs so there’s that.

And, no one is Tom Brady. Who else has been able to get a trained polar bear to keep playing tight end for him?

JJ replacing Diggs worked fine for the Vikes and in fact gave them plenty of room on the salary cap.

Draft is not 100%. How many 1st round WR burns have the Vikes run through. Some failed on the get go others had flashes of greatness only to falter after a few years … at least within the Vikings program.

Favre sure did wonders for his 2009 WR core stats – especially Rice.

Brady has to be near the top of the QB list on how he distributes passes. Any one eligible probably is targeted in a Brady game.

And now he’s going to have to dodge Z Smith and Hunter. We’ll see if they’re ever on the field together though…..

Smith is a hell of a player, hated to see him go.

Michael C. Winther wrote:

Greg Jennings (2), , Cobb (1), Nelson (1), Adams (5)…but I really don’t think the first 4 guys were individually elite talents

So all those guys who made the Pro Bowl were 2nd rounders….

Love the ZSmith and Hicks pickups for the Vikes, but they have a long way to go on defense.

If 99 problems and Smith can play together the entire season and that is a big if, this is a HUGE get for the Vikings if they plan on competing.
I said the same about Ngakwe but then Hunter went out for the year! Hope they play more than a handful of games together. I watched plenty of pecker games and Z Smith was without question the heartbeat of that Defense.

BigWerm wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Michael C. Winther wrote:</div>
Greg Jennings (2), , Cobb (1), Nelson (1), Adams (5)…but I really don’t think the first 4 guys were individually elite talents

So all those guys who made the Pro Bowl were 2nd rounders….

Love the ZSmith and Hicks pickups for the Vikes, but they have a long way to go on defense.

Better get their CB draft picks right this time.

The Zadarius Smith move is an expensive gamble considering he hasn’t proven he can be a full-time elite level player since his back surgery. Hopefully for him and the Vikes he’s able to play at full go. He’s a positive energy guy and should provide an immediate leadership and culture impact.

I’m surprised the Packers haven’t done anything with Love yet, maybe teams just aren’t quite desperate enough at QB yet? The falcons are in re-set mode so it’s too bad Calvin Ridley decided to gamble on football as this would have been a great potential match for both teams – Love and a 1st round pick for Ridley and a later pick?

Tyreek Hill has been traded to the Dolphins.

gimruis wrote:

Tyreek Hill has been traded to the Dolphins.

Now Maholmes is the one crying. I was shocked with that trade. I think Miami overpaid with a 4 year 120 Million $ contract plus 5 draft picks including the 29th and 50th pick this year. Tua Tagovailua is no Patrick Mahomes. Then again for that kind $ I doubt he cares who is throwing him the ball.

gimruis wrote:

Tyreek Hill has been traded to the Dolphins.

Terrible news for the women of Miami

fishthumper wrote:

I was shocked with that trade. I think Miami overpaid with a 4 year 120 Million $ contract plus 5 draft picks including the 29th and 50th pick this year.

100% Agreed, Tyreek Hill’s primary skill is speed, and he’s 28 with some miles on the tires. Plus a 1st, 2 2nd’s, 4th and 6th is a kings ransom for a player who is great at times, and vanishes at times. NFL Contracts are really only about the guaranteed money, and he’s getting $72M guaranteed on top, which means if he falls off they will be paying him for years. Guess when you’re the Dolphins you gotta overpay…or this is why you’ll stay the Dolphins.

Similarly, here’s the actual breakdown on Davante’s Contract with the Raiders, basically a 3 year $65M contract.

http://www.profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/03/18/inside-the-davante-adams-three-year-67-5-million-deal-as-a-practical-matter/

mahtofire14 wrote:

Better get their CB draft picks right this time.

The saving grace is that Zimmer is no longer doing the evaluations on the CBs..

fishthumper wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>gimruis wrote:</div>
Tyreek Hill has been traded to the Dolphins.

Now Maholmes is the one crying. I was shocked with that trade. I think Miami overpaid with a 4 year 120 Million $ contract plus 5 draft picks including the 29th and 50th pick this year. Tua Tagovailua is no Patrick Mahomes. Then again for that kind $ I doubt he cares who is throwing him the ball.

They got Juju and Allen Robinson. I think Mahomes will be ok.

mahtofire14 wrote:

They got Juju and Allen Robinson. I think Mahomes will be ok.

Didnt Robinson go to the Rams? I think the Chiefs will be just fine but makes me wish that the Packers would of gotten more for Adams.

KP wrote:

Didnt Robinson go to the Rams?

Yeah. They have Juju, Mecole Hardman, Josh Gordon and just picked up 1st round bust Corey Coleman to go along with Kelce and whoever they add in the draft. Mahomes will be fine imo.

Shuster hasn’t been great since Antonio Brown left.

You’re going to trust Josh Gordon?

Hardman is probably a #3 on a good team.

They’ve got Kelce and that’s it.

Losing Hill hurts them big time.

stout93 wrote:

You’re going to trust Josh Gordon?

I wouldn’t trust him either. In fact, there’s a reasonable chance he may never even play for the Chiefs given his track record.

I could see Hardman exploding in production next season. In recent seasons, him, Robinson, and Pringle were only ever used for explosive plays in the short amount of time they were on the field.

Gordan played last year for them and I think he had a score or two. Allen Robinson has never played for the Chiefs.

I think JuJu will bounce back with the Chiefs. I’m not saying he can replace Hill but Big Ben was a shell of his former self the past couple of years. Juju should bounce back with Chiefs and the Chiefs style of offense.

KP wrote:

Allen Robinson has never played for the Chiefs.

I was referencing DeMarcus Robinson, not Allen Robinson.

gimruis wrote:

I was referencing DeMarcus Robinson, not Allen Robinson.

My bad there!

stout93 wrote:

Shuster hasn’t been great since Antonio Brown left.

You’re going to trust Josh Gordon?

Hardman is probably a #3 on a good team.

They’ve got Kelce and that’s it.

Losing Hill hurts them big time.

Obviously losing Hill isn’t ideal, I’m just saying the cupboard isn’t bare. Gordon seems to have straightened himself out, even tho his production hasn’t returned. Hardman is a decent replacement of Hill, and I’m sure they will get another speedster in the draft, which is supposed to be one of the deepest for WR’s in a long time. As we all saw in GB, signing your QB to historic contracts usually means you can’t afford to do the same to the WR.

Both Davante and Hill are top notch receivers but IMO they are not worth close to 30 million a year. If you have a good QB, I would rather have 3 good 10 million dollar a year receivers. Then throw in all the draft picks the Raiders and Dolphins had to cough up on top of the money and things really start to look stupid.

On teams with elite QBs and WRs, it is tough to manage salary cap unless one or the other is on a rookie or low cost contract. Paying a QB $40M+ and a WR $25M+ takes up more than 30% of the salary cap. Splitting the remaining cap money across the remainder of the roster means you lose good players on both sides of the line.

So, those who said they are happy with the GB Aaron deal… if you get more of the same… win the division, home field throughout and lose the first game… was it a bust ?