A little more on fishing the YOY bait in Aug/Sept

  • Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13478
    #1447279

    The “Dog Days of Aug” as it is referred can be a magical time of year when you know where to look for that bone….. (“young of the year” bait ). Year after year I encounter many anglers looking for fish in all the wrong places in late summer. I wanted to write up a couple recent reports and had to stop and think about the significance of where I was beginning to catch my fish. Too often, we get stuck searching out those places that were hot last week, 2 weeks or 3 weeks ago. Accept it, those spots are all but dead and it’s time to move on.
    So instead of the typical I caught fish report, here is a simple run and gun method I follow for finding late summer/early fall walleyes and bass. Yes, I said bass and walleyes in the same sentence. Look for the key areas filled with this year’s new hatch of bass, gills, crappies, shiners, and more….. Sounds like a smorgasbord of food; it is and the fish are beginning to eat heavily on the new abundance of food.
    Baby Gill
    I fish two primarily different styles of lakes often, both shallow basin and deep basin lakes. Starting with shallow basins, I seek the most suitable habitat for YOY gills. Generally this is either dense weed mats tight on the shore OR rubble type rock making breaks and other structure away from the shoreline. These spots can vary and there is no doubt that it takes time on the water to crack a particular lake’s code. To minimize the search, I try to key in on spawning habitat as it relates to the type of habitat that I am now looking for.
    A few otters showing me where to go
    Commonly, I find where bass had spawned at earlier this spring, there is quick access to deeper water, quick access to isolated patches of weeds, and some form of flats either weeds, muck, sand. But lets’ back up to “quick access to isolated patches of weeds”. There, I have my first starting point- shallow isolated patches of weeds.
    My next step is to identify a string of identical locations. Knowing there will be variables, I still plot a run of locations that will have the most similar habitat. A key in this is to understand what subtle differences there are at each of these spots and make a mental note.
    In addition to this, I next key in on small rock. It may be a natural granite rock pile, stone retaining walls, a rocky drop off, scattered rocky flat and add that to my plotted coarse.
    My day is nearly set, and I have my milk run to make. Now it’s time to focus in on the presentation. I know the fish will be feeding on small baits – VERY SMALL. I have proven this to myself many times over – Big fish will eat little baits when it represents the food source they are pursuing. It is a constant struggle for me to continue to down size, but when bass or eyes are inhaling a 1” bluegill, that 2-1/2“ lipless bait starts looking really big. So my arsenal begins to shape up like this:

    • 7’ Ml or Med fast Quantum Smoke with 20# braid.
    • Koppers Live Target Baitball
    • Smallest size lipless Gizzard Shad
    • Lipless Bluegill
    • Lipless Crappie
    • Crank – smallest size Gizzard Shad
    • Rattlin’ Rapala size 04
    • Smallest size Rainbow Smelt
    My assortment to start with

    Now it’s a matter of run & gun each spot. My eyes are peeled for any activity which its common to see subtle boils against a shore or in the weeds. Patience is a virtue, but don’t waste time. Fan cast out the areas you know should have YOY bait in it. I work the nooks and crannies around weeds balls in 6” of water to 3 or 4 feet and cast again. I work a few baits and move on. Only after hitting multiple fish do I feel I’m on them. Even then, pay very close attention to the subtle details that made THAT spot hold fish and seek out identical cover. It can be weeds on a point, weeds between docks, change of weed type, or rocks on a point, and so on. Most often, you will see that same type of habitat will host the same type of bait, and the same predators patrolling it.
    another bass that was eager to inhale a tiny crank
    I add 3 other factors when I’m looking at deep basin lakes. Nearly all the same near shore habitat applies as a shallow basin. But now we add deeper rock piles, deep weeds, and suspended. Yea, it sounds complex and maybe intimidating but it doesn’t need to be. In todays’ age, the vast majority of us have good electronics and we need to put them to use.
    Balls of bait suspended in the open basin
    I cover most of the suspended action with 2 methods of search. Visual and drive-by. I’m no one’s fool and I’ll catch stupid fish all day long with a smile on my face. If fish are breeching bait off a point or out of a weed bed I’ll be on it like stink to a skunk. That’s the power of observation. But to cover more habitat I drive by and around all the points I can while I’m running and gunning my other spots. Knowing your electronics is key to knowing your speed limitations for a good signal return. For my rig, it’s about 30 mph so it makes a quick spot check in finding that needle in a haystack.
    Bass feeding on YOY along a rocky drop off
    The same goes for deep weeds and structure. Know how fast you can scan without losing detail. Not every rock pile you pull up on or outer weed edge will be the spot the dog buried the bone, but checking multiple spots of the right habitat will get you there.
    How do you target the walleyes Vs. Bass?

    Depending on the conditions (daylight, weather, and so on) they can be together, bass during the day, walleyes at night, walleyes under the docks… just need to do some old fashion fishing and let them tell you what they are doing.
    1 of the many muskies I raised in the week
    Wouldn’t be a report without a few top predators mixed in. So for the musky guys looking for a little more action, here is what I encounter. I’m not a huge musky hunter and I only get out about 20 to 30 times a year to target them. But when the walleyes move shallow or suspend for YOY bait, skies are never far behind. Seems like every year I have a few 18 to 24” walleyes tattered up by muskies and it gets me fired up to switch gears. So by following my same method on finding the walleyes this time of year, I know I’m in the same playpen as the skies. The proof was in the numbers this last trip out as we went 8 for 12 on the muskies that we raised. Unfortunately for me, we didn’t have the opportunity to stick any big girls this trip that we saw. But having up to 37”muskies blasting top water and bucktails just sub-surface is enough adrenaline to keep that heart pump’n just fine.
    Another bass feeding beneath the surface in 20+ FOW

    Olivia with a realy pig

    FryDog62
    Posts: 3696
    #1447294

    Good read and a great reminder to leave the spots you’ve been on earlier in the year and find the forage base. I know I’m a creature of habit too often and then realize why I’m not catching fish.. I wouldn’t have thought to downsize this time of year but that’s something good to try.

    So how big is that smallie in the bottom picture? That’ll get you fired up for “football” season!

    cougareye
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 4145
    #1447319

    Great report and pics Randy!

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1447356

    That smallmouth is a pig, and another good read as usual.

    Where do you guys find the YOY in medium sized rivers nowadays? Haven’t been out much so scouting had been minimal, but once the water started receeding can’t seem to find the baitfish, area with no shad.

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13478
    #1447363

    That smallmouth is a pig, and another good read as usual.

    Where do you guys find the YOY in medium sized rivers nowadays? Haven’t been out much so scouting had been minimal, but once the water started receeding can’t seem to find the baitfish, area with no shad.

    I would start looking near back water pockets off of the channel with dense shallow weeds. In most rivers, current is a nessesity. It’s a matter of how much curret. Frequently on rivers I pay very close attention to activity. If I see a fish blow up minnows, I try to pay closer attention to the bait in lieu of what type of fish breeched the surface.

    jeff-pb-crappie-16.5
    SW Michigan
    Posts: 695
    #1447460

    Randy,

    Great read and report. Your daughter looks pretty happy with that smallie.

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13478
    #1447471

    Didn’t put it on the bump board. I have a mesh hanging bag for weighing. Soak it in water, on the scale, tar the weight to zero, then put the fish in. Olivia has a few at the near 6# class now – spoiled proper kid

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    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13478
    #1447477

    In regards to deeper water rock humps –
    Here is video I captured with the LX9. A few significant things to this. 1. I catch a lot of really nice bass in Aug/Sep/beginning of October on this hump. Take note of the rocks!!

    2. There are other humps within casting distance of this pile. I catch bass & eyes on them, but NOTHING like on this one.

    3 look at the bait swimming around – baby bass. Yes, cannibalism at its finest
    I can’t do the auto Youtube thing – it grabs my first video instead of the one I’m trying to get on here. Anyways, this video has a lot of detail in it of a rock hump I love to fish

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