93x Redneck Fun

Dutchboy wrote:

NHamm must of gotten his hand slapped. He hasn’t been around and I know he wouldn’t voluntarily leave the site.

Nhamm and Pool2Fool (maybe Tuma?) got the ban hammer from the custom rod thread.

I missed that whole thread. Is it still around for viewing or did they dust it?

I just went back 3 pages… Must have dusted it. Oh well.

I’m curious what was said to get Nick put in the corner. I’ve met him and found him to be a decent guy. Is it just a time out or did he get banned?

Kinda funny what it takes sometimes. Maybe I have a guardian angel here but i’ve survived over 10,000 posts here and over 7,000 on Walleye Central. I did have to sit in the corner at Fishing Minnesota but I don’t consider that a real forum anyway so it didn’t hurt.

Dutchboy wrote:

I’m curious what was said to get Nick put in the corner. I’ve met him and found him to be a decent guy. Is it just a time out or did he get banned?

Kinda funny what it takes sometimes. Maybe I have a guardian angel here but i’ve survived over 10,000 posts here and over 7,000 on Walleye Central. I did have to sit in the corner at Fishing Minnesota but I don’t consider that a real forum anyway so it didn’t hurt.

ha try 4 times over there!! And I keep going back!!:???:

I think the thread was shut down – I thought it was in the Outdoor Gear Forum.

Some guys got in a debate about what is truly custom and I think some sponsors (along with other rod companies) ended up as part of a heated discussion.

I didn’t think it was too bad compared to some of the other nonsense you read but maybe there is other context I’m not aware of. Too bad – I liked those guys on the forum so hopefully it’s just a bit of detention.

Matt Moen wrote:

I think the thread was shut down – I thought it was in the Outdoor Gear Forum.

Some guys got in a debate about what is truly custom and I think some sponsors (along with other rod companies) ended up as part of a heated discussion.

I didn’t think it was too bad compared to some of the other nonsense you read but maybe there is other context I’m not aware of. Too bad – I liked those guys on the forum so hopefully it’s just a bit of detention.

Was it this one?
http://www.in-depthoutdoors.com/community/forums/topic/new-st-croix-custom-ice-rod/page/2/

This one is not shut down but does have the 3 vanquished parties involved. I don’t see any comments that would have caused a detonation but perhaps some comments were deleted?

Strange though, perhaps it goes deeper than any of us will ever know?

Thanks Andy. If thats the thread there had to have been responses deleted because there certainly isn’t anything there to cause it.

Whoa luckily I’m still here. I’m all over that thread. Can’t imagine that’s the one.

That’s the one, Andy….nice sleuthing.

I have to believe there is some other thing….like Dutch mentioned, maybe some deleted posts.

Nick and Adam (P2F) are good dudes so hopefully they can come back. Don’t know Tuma, but he seemed like a good dude, too.

Dang, if those comments get a guy booted, I’d better back off about how crappy Strikemaster is…LOL

But then again…

Not aware of what was on thread but I’d say if those guys get banned bs. Easy from my spot where I only sign the back of the check,but if I produced a product my strategy would be say what you want come try it and you’ll be buying mine.

If a product isn’t quality criticism should be welcome. Most business problems aren’t solved without direct criticism.

I’m in sales and tell every client call me up and cuss me out anytime before going elsewhere and not telling me.

Might have been from a Zander norby mille lacs thread

I have a problem with censorship. If the guys got carried away and said something wrong slap them on the wrist give them a short time-out and let them back in. In addition sanitize the thread as they did so the discussion doesn’t go away all together.

With the time-out comes the threat of 30 days if it happens again and then three strikes and you are out. Most of us here have gotten fired up over one thing or another but after a cooling off period learn to play nice in the sandbox. Or, worse case you learn to completely ignore anybody who bothers you.

While I don’t agree with everything said here I do believe everybody has their right to a opinion. I also understand the need to protect sponsors.

A great expression of compassion on Thankgiving would be to grant the convicted a pardon.

Some people are wayyy to sensitive.I didn’t think that topic got that out of hand.I hope they let them come back and play.

Somebody must of stated something to get someone’s undies in a bunch. It must be deleted because that thread don’t seem to volatile to me.

On another site that is small in comparison to this one I have the keys there. I have wondered as you what had happened. I thank you for pointing out the possible thread. If it wasn’t disinfected then this seems totally wrong.

My belief was that there was a bit of chlorine used with special care. I don’t get the chance to lounge around here like some of ya. I pop in do a quick look at the topics and click if it catches my eye. What I saying is, I don’t remember reading the thread that was pointed out until now. There is nothing offencive in it now.

I believe there should have been a “Policy Thread” posted to explain the mods displeasure and to remind everyone why the language is not allowed. I am not a mod here so I have absolutely have no say about this. It Is Just My Opinion and how I would have handled it on the website where I have the keys to the door locks. I’m guessing that I’ve said too much already.

Denny I have been around a while, not for the Fish The River days but for quite a while. In that time I have saw a few guys bounced. A few time outs. But I can’t ever remember having read the explanation for why. Just isn’t something they seem to do here. In fact, I’m not even sure who all the mods are here. I can guess a couple but who all has the keys as you say I have no idea.

I suppose it’s also possible that once the time out has expired those people just move on somewhere else and never come back. I hope not but that certainly is a possibility.

Like I said earlier everybody gets heated once in a while. Unless it was a really ugly personal attack on somebody or sponsor I hope the people wonder back in. But, with the thread sanitized and no explanation we won’t know I guess.

mxskeeter wrote:

Somebody must of stated something to get someone’s undies in a bunch. It must be deleted because that thread don’t seem to volatile to me.

The thread definitely got cleaned up. I was following it as much as i could while it was active and a couple of the comments that I remember are gone. One about TUCRs blanks and where they are made is definitely gone. It never got heated as I saw, just a few comments that probably rubbed a few of the bill-payers the wrong way. Unfortunate, but such is business.

Dutch, I have been a looker since the Fish the River Days as was a couple on my friends down here. I thought that I registered then, under some other name but don’t remember that was when I was still on dial up service. I ‘m sure that has been the better part of 10 gallons of water through the dam now.. I know I was registered when I went to high speed.

My comment, “I believe there should have been a “Policy Thread” posted to”, remind the members about a posted “Policy of Conduct” before an ax was unsheathed. By the way where, or is there such an article? Might it help to expose as a sticky the “Rules for Conduct Forum Posting “? Maybe the thread moved too fast for that to have been an effective measure, I don’t know.

May I ask this once again, Might it help to expose as a sticky the “Rules for Conduct Forum Posting “?

Denny O wrote:

May I ask this once again, Might it help to expose as a sticky the “Rules for Conduct Forum Posting “?

Hello Denny,

At the bottom page of any post, page, or forum there is a link to the “Terms and Privacy.” EVERY person who creates an account on IDO agrees to these rules when they sign up.

http://www.in-depthoutdoors.com/terms-use-privacy/

I also missed that thread and don’t know where it went south. I can say that what is posted on the forum may only be a part of the reason for getting banned. Many times it what is being sent via PM’s.

Hope that helps.

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Jon, Yes that helped! I remember agreeing to the terms generations ago, I just seem to never find it in the forum lists.

Obviously I don’t look down very far, my bad. Maybe I need to watch where I walk next time a bit more, maybe it would keep me from stubbing my toe and falling on my face so much.

THanks Jon, and for those that still don’t see it I copied the whole text and am pasting it here for all to read once again as a refresher to me as all others.

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I send and receive private messages. I don’t get into pi$$ing contests in PM’s. If there is a argument it stays in the thread, I won’t engage in a PM. I have had guys send me a PM swearing at me. I have three options at that point…

1) Ignore
2) respond
3) cut & paste to the thread.

I chose to ignore them. If I would have gotten continued abuse I would have cut & paste to show the whole world the class of the guy.

That said we don’t know what went on behind the scenes, maybe it got out of control and they went to the mods and they shut the guys down. Nobody is talking so we don’t know.

Anyway, we all need to remember everyone is entitled to their opinion. Keep it civil and everything runs pretty smooth around here. Come in talkin’ junk and you will get lit up for sure.

The Fishing Minnesota guys running the forum here now?

I don’t get it, a eagle? Or was this not a joke?

Denny O wrote:

I don’t get it, a eagle? Or was this not a joke?

The guys on Fishing Minnesota would ban you if you asked a question about a non-sponsor product……or so it seemed. They also gave you a time out if you put on your right sock before your left sock in the morning. But, they are gone now and other then to provide the occasional chuckle aren’t missed at all. I don’t know Eagle but suspect it was tongue in cheek and he wasn’t insinuating anything. According to a reliable source there wasn’t any sanitizing of the thread going on. So if thats the case I think either a sponsor complained or things got out of hand with PM’s. But thats just speculation. I didn’t dust those guys so I’m not sure what happened.

I went to Tumas house on Saturday and picked up a rod he had built for me. The thread you guys are talking about is not the one that got those guys kicked out. It was a different one that had a couple other custom rod brands named and talked about. Some body I believe was rubbed the wrong way.but not by any means of trash talking.

If the sponsors are reading tuma and nhamm and friends all apologize and learned there lessons. .

Dutchboy wrote:

I don’t know Eagle but suspect it was tongue in cheek and he wasn’t insinuating anything.

Exactly what it was.

On a related but side note, IDO is nothing like that and I don’t suspect will ever be. I have seen NUMEROUS posts about people who have had honest issues with a sponsored product. None of those people (that I know of) were ever dusted and have always been responded to positively, whether it be other members with input or the mfg…I don’t use everything IDO has as a sponsor, but everything I’ve got or used is top notch and I truly believe they aren’t using them because of money…they’re using them because they’re quality products that hold up.

Now please don’t dust me.

But to make it clear it was not the st croix customs thread. It was a thread that is no longer with us.
It was dusted

Bearcat89 wrote:

But to make it clear it was not the st croix customs thread. It was a thread that is no longer with us.
It was dusted

I think I remember that one too. If it’s the one I’m thinking of, it started off with a guy selling perceived “knock off” ice rods via the internet. The OP was saying how much he liked them for the price and I remember the thread going in a rather combative direction.

Regardless…Bearcat, did Tuma not give you any more explanation? Typically when someone gets booted, they’re given a reason.

Oh well, perhaps we should stop speculating on this and just move on.