51 arrested

  • Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13294
    #1578127

    From my uderstanding the struggle for the gun was a report from the police union not an offical announcement from the BCA or the police department. I’m not saying it accurate or not but I think its odd the police union is the ones reporting this or is the police union an offical spokesentity for the police department?
    Also it seems a struggle for an officers gun instances are on the rise. Maybe training could be better on this so that the result wont be shooting the perpetrator in the head.

    I agree. Maybe classes on assaulting and disarming officers and the potential outcome?

    hl&sinker
    Inactive
    north fowl
    Posts: 605
    #1578133

    These officers in parts of the north side have a mess load of cr#p to deal with any extra help be it training can only help to keep them safe.

    This protest as its their right has become shameful and only does harm to their cause in the way its run. Bullies is what they have become. I fear with the mentality at hand tonight is a precursor to further escalation. May the officers at the 4th precinct stay safe.

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1578177

    Kare11 has it on their website the Sister of the victim showed up to the protest and started yelling at them, telling them they were foolish and only pissing people off.

    I’ll reiterate the point that Blacklivesmatter has an obligation to call out these protesters as they are. If not, this group is nothing but a hate group itself.

    “Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred. We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline. We must not sallow our creative protest to degenerate into physical violence. Again and again we must rise to the majestic heights of meeting physical force with soul force.” MLKJ

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16650
    #1578250

    Wonder how they are making out in the wind & snow today?

    Jon Jordan
    Keymaster
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 6019
    #1578254

    They need a big fire. doah Don’t give them any ideas….

    -J.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18621
    #1578411

    Heard today the punk was NOT handcuffed and had a controlling grip on an officers gun. Clean shoot. All those unemployed illegally protesting scum should be jailed. And the mayor should be heavily reprimanded for bowing to them and letting the whole mess escalate.

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11923
    #1578420

    If they have proof that he was not handcuffed when shot, They need to bring charges against those who gave statements to the police that say he was. Then again one more charge on their rap sheets most likely will not matter to them.

    JD Winston
    Inactive
    Chanhassen, MN
    Posts: 899
    #1578421

    They need a big fire. Don’t give them any ideas….
    -J.

    Say Jon, you’re not suggesting that since the protesters are black that they have no control over their actions and that any suggestion toward “fires” will likely be met with an impulsive involuntary primitive reaction?

    Perhaps you could clear the air with what you meant to say because I KNOW you didn’t mean all that.

    Jon Jordan
    Keymaster
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 6019
    #1578422

    I’m clearly implying the MPLS protesters are not unlike the Ferguson protesters. We all know how that turned out. coffee

    -J.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1578425

    Goosfraba.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18621
    #1578428

    The best way to avoid future riots is to quell one properly. Quick and brutal. That’s just the way it needs to be done. No reference to race necessary.
    Those that cant handle it should bury their heads in the sand until its over. The rest of us want to live in peace most of the time and are not so stupid to think all bad things are avoidable.

    JD Winston
    Inactive
    Chanhassen, MN
    Posts: 899
    #1578429

    I’m clearly implying the MPLS protesters are not unlike the Ferguson protesters. We all know how that turned out.
    -J.

    So all protesting black people are violent and sure to set fires in a protest because some of them did in Ferguson? Surely you can’t mean that. Please elaborate.

    DaveB
    Inver Grove Heights MN
    Posts: 4469
    #1578447

    Stop calling him Shirley!

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18621
    #1578449

    Hey deb, I mean JD, why are you picking on people?

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1578452

    JD, is Deb getting the better of you today? Displacing anger maybe? This doesn’t sound like you man, seasonal depression? I get this way to when the vitamin D is lacking and stuck at work all day/night.

    Don’t take this offensively, I just know your an educated self-made man who would know not to expect anything else on a predominately white outdoor sportsman website. And that’s not insinuating there were racial comments to be had here, IMO there weren’t any. Some threw out the guilty verdict on the protestors, just as the protestors did on the cops, but that’s normal.

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11923
    #1578458

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Jon Jordan wrote:</div>
    I’m clearly implying the MPLS protesters are not unlike the Ferguson protesters. We all know how that turned out.
    -J.

    So all protesting black people are violent and sure to set fires in a protest because some of them did in Ferguson? Surely you can’t mean that. Please elaborate.

    ]

    Not all Protesting Black or White People are Violent, but all who do so while breaking the law are criminals and should be treated as such. Starting fires where not allowed, and throwing Rocks and Bottles are criminal events. If the police attempt to arrest those people and others interfere with the police then they are criminals as well.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1578459

    Wow the February/March cabin fever posts came early this year.

    JD Winston
    Inactive
    Chanhassen, MN
    Posts: 899
    #1578460

    JD, is Deb getting the better of you today? Displacing anger maybe? This doesn’t sound like you man, seasonal depression?

    Yes, Yes, and dang-nabbit man, I need some ice to fish on, stat!

    JD Winston
    Inactive
    Chanhassen, MN
    Posts: 899
    #1578461

    Hey deb, I mean JD, why are you picking on people?

    I’m bustin’ chops today. Ask anyone.

    Stop calling him Shirley!

    Classic!

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1578462

    Let’s all take 5 seconds, pretend that Eskimo Hub is full of your beer of choice and all step into our happy place. Happy Friday Ya’ll!!ice

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18621
    #1578465

    oooooh. Tip Up!!!

    JD Winston
    Inactive
    Chanhassen, MN
    Posts: 899
    #1578466

    The best way to avoid future riots is to quell one properly. Quick and brutal. That’s just the way it needs to be done.

    I can almost hear the King of England saying the same thing about colonists in the new land several hundred years ago. And mostly over, by today’s standards, modest taxes. Were we wrong to revolt then? Is revolution always wrong? When is it OK to use violence to affect change from the abuses of the “establishment”?

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11923
    #1578472

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>suzuki wrote:</div>
    The best way to avoid future riots is to quell one properly. Quick and brutal. That’s just the way it needs to be done.

    I can almost hear the King of England saying the same thing about colonists in the new land several hundred years ago. And mostly over, by today’s standards, modest taxes. Were we wrong to revolt then? Is revolution always wrong? When is it OK to use violence to affect change from the abuses of the “establishment”?

    A Riot and a Revolt are 2 totally different things. A riot is normally caused by a SMAll group of people who THINK they may have been wronged. A revolt is caused by a LARGE group of the overall population who KNOW they have been wronged. If this type of issue leads to a revolt I have a feeling that the outcome for this group will be far different than the one you were referring to.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1578473

    ^^ Nothing like sending a persona invite to Don Lincoln! LOL!

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16650
    #1578500

    So far so good. The police haven’t exerted uncalled for force and the protesters haven’t taken this beyond the protest. IMO the test is this weekend. The outsiders and trouble makers will have ample time to get to the twin cities. Will the local protesters have enough influence and desire to control the trouble makers? Will the cops be as tolerant this weekend when the crowds swell? Will Chief Harteau continue to protect taxpayer assets including police cars and property?

    On a side note it was reported in a story in the Star Trib that the women assaulted by Clarke suffered a broken ankle. After she was placed in a ambulance Clarke attempted to get to her, for what reason is unknown. As is procedure he was restrained and told to keep away. He then started yelling profanities at the paramedics with police intervening. The article then states that Clarke had control of a officers gun before being shot.

    I’m not saying what was reported is a true account of the events. It’s what is included in a story today.

    Lets all hope and pray for a peaceful resolution this weekend.

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1578508

    Another side note, Jamal’s record conisits of your typical north side thuggery, including 40+ month prison sentence.

    And the cop under investigation had a lawsuit against him and several other officers when he worked on the Westcoast, which got settled.

    hl&sinker
    Inactive
    north fowl
    Posts: 605
    #1578509

    Keep in mind most information is obtained through outside scources of those that are doing the investigations like the police union and now the NAACP, 2 entities with conflicting interest. Be it reported by local news tv or blog or newspaper its the same info no matter who reports it. Were being fed info only to control our bias which ever side one believes. These are not official releases, for lack of a better discription “gossip” to sway or to keep interst in the story.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16650
    #1578512

    Keep in mind most information is obtained through outside scources of those that are doing the investigations like the police union and now the NAACP, 2 entities with conflicting interest. Be it reported by local news tv or blog or newspaper its the same info no matter who reports it. Were being fed info only to control our bias which ever side one believes. These are not official releases, for lack of a better discription “gossip” to sway or to keep interst in the story.

    Agreed. This is just stuff the reporters are fed or speculation from others. The only thing we can be reasonably sure of is no video exists of Clarke in handcuffs UNLESS the cops have a tape. Had any of the so called witnesses had video they would have sold it to the press by now.

    hl&sinker
    Inactive
    north fowl
    Posts: 605
    #1578515

    But there were handcuffs on the ground devil jester

    Tom Sawvell
    Inactive
    Posts: 9559
    #1578517

    But there were handcuffs on the ground devil jester

    Those could have been pulled free from their holster during the shuffle. Handcuffs on the ground are meaningless.

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