Kudo’s to the state patrol. I have no problem with protests however when you block freeways you need to go to jail. BTW, punching a cop? Great PR for your cause.
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November 17, 2015 at 8:02 am #1577675
And convict them rather than dropping charges as they have in the past.
-J.
November 17, 2015 at 8:37 am #1577681yea and the thing that started all this is police responding to a call of an assault on a women……no mention of that.
November 17, 2015 at 8:45 am #1577685All this crap has got to stop. Here’s a idea. Stop committing crimes and being thugs and you will most likely not get shot by police or anyone else. At the rate we are headed we may see a race war in this country yet. Sad to say, but I believe there are many on both sides that would welcome it.
November 17, 2015 at 9:12 am #1577690Our country is going straight to you know where, we need change from the top down and I don’t mean I hope I have change left in my pocket which is what we have with our current administration. I think he would love to see riots in the streets.
November 17, 2015 at 10:31 am #1577704You guys are terrible! IDO needs a safe space and trigger warnings!
nhammInactiveRobbinsdalePosts: 7348November 17, 2015 at 10:56 am #1577707Malcom X would even be disappointed with these morons. Anyone see the #fu*kparis these people are throwing around?
This is a hate group who wants to lash out. Its disappointing because its just hurting the cause they think they’re advancing. Lack of education in the cities is starting to show its ugly head.November 17, 2015 at 11:10 am #1577715The goal is to get the support of the general public. This won’t happen blocking freeways.
You have two groups, those who really care and those who just want to cause trouble. I support one and hope they jail the others.
November 17, 2015 at 12:27 pm #1577732I have no sympathy for their cause nor do I believe they have an intelligent reason for protesting. I think they just want to disrupt everyone else. They want another Ferguson and I sure hope they dont get it.
November 17, 2015 at 12:36 pm #1577735Their thought process is so much different than mine and lots of others here on IDO. They feel like they succeeded during the interstate shutdown because it got the public talking about the issue in some way.
Go on twitter and do a search for #Justice4Jamar or #JamarClark
The things you will see posted are almost mind blowing.I’m all for a group called Black Lives Matter (would prefer it called All Lives Matter though), but I just feel that it should be contributing to society. Maybe donate your time to educating citizens about right and wrong, or teaching children about life, creating a safe park that citizens of North Mpls can go to. Instead, I feel like their group is making racism real again. I have a number of black American friends that are embarrassed by the actions going on around this country by these Black Lives Matter groups, and I have other friends that feel they are entitled to something for their skin color.
The one thing that all of these police shootings making national headlines have in common, the person that got shot not only broke the law, but also didn’t cooperate with police. Respect the law, respect the citizens of your community, and you’ll be fine, no matter your skin color. 99.87% of police in the world are not out to “get you”, they are just another person doing their job to make a living to support themselves and their family.
Tom SawvellInactivePosts: 9559November 17, 2015 at 12:59 pm #1577743I think when this bunch pulls a stunt like this the law should just bring out a firetruck with water on board and hose them down….at high pressure. Don’t argue with them. Don’t warn them. Just say its time to go home and whine in front of a mirror where what they’re looking at might give a rip. Don’t say you have 5 minutes. Just say go away and then bring on the hose.
November 17, 2015 at 1:06 pm #1577745I think when this bunch pulls a stunt like this the law should just bring out a firetruck with water on board and hose them down….at high pressure. Don’t argue with them. Don’t warn them. Just say its time to go home and whine in front of a mirror where what they’re looking at might give a rip. Don’t say you have 5 minutes. Just say go away and then bring on the hose.
Instead, over 100 trooper cars show up and I’m sure 200+ cops. On overtime. Paid for by us.
nhammInactiveRobbinsdalePosts: 7348November 17, 2015 at 1:24 pm #1577748You have two groups, those who really care and those who just want to cause trouble. I support one and hope they jail the others.
Absolutely agree with this and will add to the group causing trouble is the tiny minority of the whole.
BUT! As the group’s leadership goes, if people want to do these idiotic things and attach the group’s name to it you are absolutely obliged to separate yourself from these people and call them out if needed. Ignorance on these situations is no different than the ignorance they are trying to fight and is even more transparent than the latter, IMO.
mojogunterPosts: 3301November 17, 2015 at 1:35 pm #1577754I just hope there is video surveillance footage showing whether he was handcuffed or not at the time of being shot. If he wasn’t handcuffed then the so called eyewitness saying he was handcuffed should be charged with a hate crime and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I fear that there may be no definitive evidence though. If they had footage why wouldn’t they release it right away?
nhammInactiveRobbinsdalePosts: 7348November 17, 2015 at 2:16 pm #1577765Straight off blacklivesmatter.com for those that aren’t aware of the groups opinion.
I’ll keep my mouth shut on these bullet points
How Black poverty and genocide is state violence.
How 2.8 million Black people are locked in cages in this country is state violence.
How Black women bearing the burden of a relentless assault on our children and our families is state violence.
How Black queer and trans folks bear a unique burden from a hetero-patriarchal society that disposes of us like garbage and simultaneously fetishizes us and profits off of us, and that is state violence.
How 500,000 Black people in the US are undocumented immigrants and relegated to the shadows.
How Black girls are used as negotiating chips during times of conflict and war.
How Black folks living with disabilities and different abilities bear the burden of state sponsored Darwinian experiments that attempt to squeeze us into boxes of normality defined by white supremacy, and that is state violence.
November 17, 2015 at 2:17 pm #1577766They have brought the Feds into investigate. My only problem with that is if there was some fault of the Mpls cops they delay telling the story trying to advert another Ferguson. I also agree with prosecuting to the fullest extent if those people are lying that the victim was handcuffed.
All that said, lets see how much moral conviction this group has tomorrow night then temps dip into the 20’s.
philtickelsonInactiveMahtomedi, MNPosts: 1678November 17, 2015 at 2:28 pm #1577768The problem with so much of this stuff is it tries to draw a static ‘line in the sand’ when it’s much more complicated and fluid than that. Cops are terrible people who shoot black dudes for no reason. Black dudes are thugs who break the law. Etc.
All police officers are not terrible people with a bloodlust for black people. The majority of law enforcement in this country are trying to do an impossible job(stop crime and keep everyone safe) to the best of their ability.
All police officers are not saints nor deserving of their authority. There are absolutely bad apples within law enforcement. Should these bad apples be held accountable for their actions? I believe they should, shouldn’t everyone be held accountable for their actions? Should all the good cops out there be held accountable for the bad apples? Probably not.
Feel free to replace police officers with:
black people
white people
muslims
Iowans
etc.November 17, 2015 at 2:45 pm #1577774Thought it was pretty lame that Mpls Mayor called in the Feds right away. Pretty much a slap in the face to your police force. What – no confidence in them doing their jobs?
Also, try and lose the deer in the headlight look on your face when speaking to the media.
Thank you,
-J.
November 17, 2015 at 3:04 pm #1577778Not a lawyer and don’t even play one on TV but isn’t there some federal law about disrupting interstate commerce that they could be charged with for blocking the interstate?
Per the KSTP news site
“The protesters were arrested on suspicion of unlawful assembly and being a pedestrian on a freeway, which are both are misdemeanors.”November 17, 2015 at 3:08 pm #1577779I get it from her point of view. If they (Mpls police) find no fault with the cops the protesters go nuts. Another Ferguson could be possible. If the Feds do a independent review and find nothing I think the protesters back-off a bit. At least I hope so.
My other problem is I think this group (Black lives matter) are just itching for another fight to get them more national exposure. Regardless of the findings I think they will try and fire up he dumb kids who will believe anything and just follow along. Anything anywhere near what they did in Ferguson and I hope they round em up and jail the whole damn bunch of them. Red & Yellow, Black or White you break the law you go to jail.
hl&sinkerInactivenorth fowlPosts: 605November 17, 2015 at 3:33 pm #1577787Kudo’s to the state patrol. I have no problem with protests however when you block freeways you need to go to jail. BTW, punching a cop? Great PR for your cause. ” />
I have to say I came in turned the tube on around 9:30 last night and saw this story being reported. Listened a bit to the story line and the first thing that came to my mind when I saw all the enforcement out there was “thankyou law enforcement”. Dutchboy “kudos” says it very well.
As I have much to say about the political side of the story for me my thanks and I’m sure Dutchboys “kudo’s” has nothing to do with the poltics.
November 17, 2015 at 5:17 pm #1577802Dutch, you let your police chief call in the feds. She came across as a complete idiot. Made the situation worse.
-J.
Pete SPosts: 277November 17, 2015 at 5:38 pm #1577808It’s sad to me that one man dies from a cops bullet and the country knows his name. But the other 100 men who will die in North Minneapolis this year will go unnoticed by most. Just once I would like to see the passion (compassion??) these groups have for all of the victims.
November 17, 2015 at 5:38 pm #1577809Unless there is video clearly showing this guy being shot while NOT being arrested the cops are going to look bad. I think she needs a independent investigation. You saw the Black Lives people already are calling for the officer being fired and charged. WTF, there hasn’t even been an investigation completed yet!
Jon I agree she didn’t look good but I certainly understand why. The whole city of Ferguson debacle has left the whole country running scared from these people. Get this thing investigated and the results known. Either this guy was killed legally or the cops killed him. If he was in fact in handcuffs then some cop(s) is going to jail. If somebody else shot the guy then they are going to jail. But, no matter which way this goes they don’t have the rights to block freeways.I would think there is SOME video out there, but what it will show I don’t know.
November 17, 2015 at 6:11 pm #1577814Jon I agree she didn’t look good but I certainly understand why. The whole city of Ferguson debacle has left the whole country running scared from these people.
This is where a strong leader is needed. Not a pandering panzie. Screw all of these thugs.
-J.
November 17, 2015 at 6:37 pm #1577817Pandering panzie how is wanting to get things right pandering to them? I know you would just as soon send the national guard to the 4th street station and lock them all up but that ain’t happening. When they break the law (and some will, be patient) then lock them up. Until then they have the same rights as the rest of us.
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