39-0

Well that should put a end to that nonsense of being invited to a bowl game. PJ has some work to do I would say.

Row the boat! LMAO

Like I said Snake oil salesman.

and I’ve tried watching the PJ Fleck show. after 5 minutes I can’t take it any longer. Same old cliche’s.

Eelpoutguy wrote:

Row the boat! LMAO

Like I said Snake oil salesman.

and I’ve tried watching the PJ Fleck show. after 5 minutes I can’t take it any longer. Same old cliche’s.

He’s a lot to handle and you’re right about the cliche thing — but I will take cliche over excuse. I feel like at the very least he’s willing to say “bottom line, we aren’t there yet and we’ve got a ways to go.” I’m not sure what more a coach in his position is supposed to say?

Unfortunately I feel like the kids needed this reminder. after last week against the huskers they were feeling pretty good about themselves? Maybe a little too good? Which shows that PJ has a ways to go to instill his “culture” as well.

I’m getting this uneasy ‘Brewster 2.0’ feeling.

To this point it’s all smoke and mirrors. There isn’t a nickles worth of difference between him and Brewster……at this point. You hear about his recruiting class, well they are backing out left and right so what actually makes it on campus is yet to be seen. As far as culture, what he is really saying is wait until I get my system in. His system better include much better players.

I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt for 2 more years. Then he can pack & go cuz he isn’t going to be any more successful then anybody else around here.

Some of this stuff isn’t smoke and mirrors. Whether us football fans like it or not, he is trying to create a culture of good, respectable men first and football players second. He’s sat multiple starters for character/off the field issues.

Hope you are right Dan but I really doubt he is a bit better then what we had. Maybe more expensive, but not a better coach. Like I said, time will tell.

Dan wrote:

Some of this stuff isn’t smoke and mirrors. Whether us football fans like it or not, he is trying to create a culture of good, respectable men first and football players second. He’s sat multiple starters for character/off the field issues.

If that’s the case then . Like Dutch says “time will tell”

Tough to see the losses but you have to give him time. His rhetoric is a bit much but he turned around western Michigan and almost beat Wisconsin in a bcs bowl game last year. I think his upside can be tremendous because he’s only 36 and he’ll mature.

I hope the administration supports him through at least 3 years. Claeys and kill left the cupboard pretty bare.

They’ll give him 3 years……they emptied the bank on a unproven commodity. Winning at Western Michigan is vastly different then winning in the Big 10.
Getting blown out by Northwestern isn’t going to inspire faith from the few Gopher ticket buyers still left.

Give it time and just keep rowing the boat.

Give it time mr negative

Morel King wrote:

Give it time mr negative

You are right. Another 4 years going to be enough time? Or maybe another 57 years?

I understand your wanting to be loyal and all. However history dictates the program is still in the dumper. I’ll gladly drive your bandwagon when they show they have turned the corner.

They have spent MILLIONS in the last few years on coaches, stadiums, facilities only to get beaten 39-0 by NORTHWESTERN of all people. Show me the progress?

BTW, my post was more about putting the ridiculous bowl idea to bed then it was about the currant state of the program.

i cant stand the concept of firing a coach who just won us 9 games . Hopefully we somehow knock off wisconsin for the ax and then that bowl bid is a lock

I’ve stated my position on bowls games many, many times.

typical Mn fans.. every sport… no patience. Rather than a bail out your boat, you all jump in the freezing water… grab an oar or get out !!! don’t call yourself a fan either when you give a coach 1 year. he doesn’t play you know. what was brewsters western michigan team ?

Hopefully we somehow knock off wisconsin for the ax and then that bowl bid is a lock

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
The Badgers are a pretty focused group. TCF will be well over half red next Saturday

not this year, but were coming for ya…. book it.

big_g wrote:

typical Mn fans.. every sport… no patience.

Certainly not unique to mn.

Dutchboy wrote:

They’ll give him 3 years……they emptied the bank on a unproven commodity. Winning at Western Michigan is vastly different then winning in the Big 10.
Getting blown out by Northwestern isn’t going to inspire faith from the few Gopher ticket buyers still left.

More parity now in college football with changes in recruiting. The group of 5 schools can compete more often. Getting blown out by northwestern isn’t good, but look at pat Fitzgerald’s record over the last 10 years.

You say unproven…..what else were the gophers to do when looking for a new coach? Hire in your opinion an unproven guy or another middle of the road experienced guy. I say, hire the guy with upside and that’s Fleck.

Fleck will be great if he can back-up all his ra ra elite row the boat BS that the kids swallow. If not, he’s just another Brewster, a more well paid version anyway. I kinda think the other reason they hired Fleck…..he would take the job.

Like I said, time will tell.

If any goph fans want to jump off the boat I could use a couple of tickets to Saturday’s tilt. Send a PM if you want to sell

Why do you guys punish yourselves watching or following a team that hasn’t won in like 75 years. It is truly amazing to be so bad for this long.

educate yourself before making such dumb uninformed posts…. talk about self punishment. it only removes the little doubt some may have had, about your intelligence or lack of.

Remember a couple years ago when everyone was calling for Pitino’s head? In 2017, we have a team that is ranked 14th in the nation with an upcoming recruiting class that is flirting with a top 25 ranking.

Fleck took a Western Michigan team, who was a nobody and had them ranked in the top 10. If you looked at his records when he first started there, it was same as here.

Point is, college sports teams cannot be turned around in a mere few seasons, unlike professional sports. I probably have more faith in Fleck than I have had in any other Gopher football coach, in a long time.

biggill wrote:

big_g wrote:
typical Mn fans.. every sport… no patience.

Certainly not unique to mn.

I think in reality you’ll find that MN fans are TOO patient.

If you look at the programs that have a RECENT history of success, the fans are calling for a coaching change if the team doesn’t make it to a major bowl game every season. Michigan is a great example.

This idea of “give it 4 or 5 years and see how it goes” wouldn’t fly in the vast majority of Big 10 programs, but in MN we’ve been down and out for so long, hey, what’s another 4 years to see if this latest guy can actually deliver? Fans in the real elite programs all over the country don’t give coaches a couple of years to come up with the goods. That’s a Minnesota thing based on very, very low expectations.

Overall, I just can’t believe our bad luck. We had the guy who would have finally made something happen with this program and it was the one thing that’s beyond both his and the U’s control that took him away. Just terrible, terrible fortune for everyone.

So here we stand with another new guy and we’re supposed to withhold judgment and wait 4-5 years for the team to really be “his team”. Not a good situation. Hopefully, this guy can deliver.

Grouse

TheFamousGrouse wrote:

Overall, I just can’t believe our bad luck. We had the guy who would have finally made something happen with this program and it was the one thing that’s beyond both his and the U’s control that took him away. Just terrible, terrible fortune for everyone

Out of curiosity are you referring to the coach with a 14-21 big10 record in 5 years, who “retired” but quickly unretired for rutgers? Or his assistant who went 6-8 in the big10 before making idiotic public statements defending his criminal players?

Matt Moen wrote:

You say unproven…..what else were the gophers to do when looking for a new coach? Hire in your opinion an unproven guy or another middle of the road experienced guy. I say, hire the guy with upside and that’s Fleck.

Craig Bohl,
NDSU…
But the puck heads in MN would never hire a ND coach.
Now the head coach of our Neighbors southwest of here.

pool2fool wrote:

Out of curiosity are you referring to the coach with a 14-21 big10 record in 5 years, who “retired” but quickly I retired for rutgers?

So you think that Jerry Kill used his health condition to bail out on the U because he wasn’t cutting it?

You’re cherry-picking Kill’s record a bit. He was 29-29 in games as head coach of the University of MN. Also, I can think of a few coaches who wish they had teams good enough to go 14-21 record in Big 10 games. And that wasn’t even his recored “with his own team”, because as you know, a coach’s record doesn’t count until he’s turned over 100% of the team that was left from his predecessor.

Finally, I can’t honestly thing that you believe his current responsibilities as OC at Rutgers are the equivalent of a head coaching position at the U and that he should have just toughed it out?

We’ll never know where the program would have gone, but I just liked the style. All the coaching, none of the rah-rah.

Grouse