$30,000 for Hanging in There

So if you get $30,000 for living through a plane crash…What’s this close call worth that happened today? Couple drinks chips??

Group A boarding for life.

Before the internet they wouldn’t have even known. LOL

“Um this is the pilot we noticed a few people haven’t finished their drinks. We are going to do a fly by and let everyone finish their cocktail and smoke. Thank you for flying with us”

Why would SW have to pay anything for an error by a completely different pilot/airline? If I was on that plane, I’d be pretty darn happy how aware and proactive the SW pilots were. If you want to understand what actually happened, Pilot Debrief does a great job explaining every detail (video link below).

Also, the delta passengers are going to get way more than $30k. The $30k payment was no strings attached good faith payment and does not impact future claims. There’s already been a handful of suits filed by passengers of that flight and there will be many more.

Wow Thankfully the SW pilot was fully of aware of the surroundings and aborted that landing. Either traffic control or the private jet captain severely messed up taxiing across an active runway. The SW should be given a medal for saving hundreds of lives.

Gitchi Gummi wrote:

Why would SW have to pay anything for an error by a completely different pilot/airline? If I was on that plane, I’d be pretty darn happy how aware and proactive the SW pilots were. If you want to understand what actually happened, Pilot Debrief does a great job explaining every detail.

It’s two different situations. B-man’s title and first sentence reference the Delta flight that crashed and flipped upside down going from MSP to Toronto last week; the video he has is the SW flight from this week. The $30,000 has been offered to passengers on the Delta flight.

Dan wrote:

t’s two different situations. B-man’s title and first sentence reference the Delta flight that crashed and flipped upside down going from MSP to Toronto last week; the video he has is the SW flight from this week. The $30,000 has been offered to passengers on the Delta flight.

I know. B-man was implying the SW passengers are due a payout. I disagreed.

It was a joke?? (The drink chip part)

Thankfully nobody got hurt or killed and it was just a close call.

But for it to have happened someone screwed up (I have no idea if it was air traffic control, or if one of the planes took the wrong runway/taxi which happens too)

I dont think he was implying any payment was warranted just merely asking for feedback. I never took it that way.

It was the private jets issue. The tower warns them to stop but they continue to proceed.

I used to fly a lot and had two instances where the pilot powered back up and took off right as we touched down. The first time the pilot came in and told us there was another plane at the end of the runway. He said it probably wouldn’t been an issue but he decided to be cautious.

The second time the pilot said nothing so I have no idea why it happened.

When they power back up at full throttle it’s jarring, especially when you don’t expect it.

You can see the private jet really hammer on it trying to get out of the way like oh $hit!

This will get blamed on DOGE for sure.

Sylvanboat wrote:

This will get blamed on DOGE for sure.

Always best to be outraged in anticipation of the outrage. That way we’re all outraged all the time.

We flew to Cabo on Delta the same day and time as the Delta flight to Toronto that flipped. I need to get JG Wentworth on the line, I need cash now!

B-man wrote:

It was a joke?? (The drink chip part)

Thankfully nobody got hurt or killed and it was just a close call.

But for it to have happened someone screwed up (I have no idea if it was air traffic control, or if one of the planes took the wrong runway/taxi which happens too)

I experienced a hotel elevator problem multiple years back. It was at a trade show and due to the crowd of people they were using the freight elevators. I started on the first floor with the destination of the 10th floor with a packed elevator. The elevator went up at least 1 floor and then started to drop down past 1st floor then the basement level till it hit the base about 1/2 floor past the basement level. It hit pretty hard with dust falling from the ceiling vents and my coffee shot up on my clothes and face (not very hot). After about 45 minutes they finally started getting us off using a ladder. The first hotel representative that I encountered I asked him “all I want to know is who is buying my drinks tonight”.

I haven’t flown through there in years, but Midway feels like an accident waiting to happen. A Very small space, the runways criss-cross and are often used simultaneously.

Matt Moen wrote:

Group A boarding for life.

To each their own, but I cannot understand this for the life of me. I’d pay extra to be guaranteed last person to board on every flight. Hate sitting there waiting for everyone to shuffle in, I want to buckle up and take off asap.

KPE wrote:

To each their own, but I cannot understand this for the life of me. I’d pay extra to be guaranteed last person to board on every flight. Hate sitting there waiting for everyone to shuffle in, I want to buckle up and take off asap.

I would agree with you in all caps x10 if I could. 10000%. My wife is the complete opposite, she wants to go right away, even if we sneak into a zone ahead of us. When I’ve asked her why her answer is always “just to get on the plane.” I hate it, you’re gonna be sitting on that damn aircraft for hours anyway.

KPE wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Matt Moen wrote:</div>
Group A boarding for life.

To each their own, but I cannot understand this for the life of me. I’d pay extra to be guaranteed last person to board on every flight. Hate sitting there waiting for everyone to shuffle in, I want to buckle up and take off asap.

This is why I never fly SW. I want an aisle seat…if you board late on SW you’re in the middle.

Dan wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>KPE wrote:</div>
To each their own, but I cannot understand this for the life of me. I’d pay extra to be guaranteed last person to board on every flight. Hate sitting there waiting for everyone to shuffle in, I want to buckle up and take off asap.

I would agree with you in all caps x10 if I could. 10000%. My wife is the complete opposite, she wants to go right away, even if we sneak into a zone ahead of us. When I’ve asked her why her answer is always “just to get on the plane.” I hate it, you’re gonna be sitting on that damn aircraft for hours anyway.

Same for me.. the wife wants on ASAP.. so the overhead bin above our seats isn’t jammed with someone else’s shi7 already. I want to walk on and they close the door. Who are these dips that think they have a right to put there stuff in my bin ?

Is that a new thing where you get assigned overhead bin space just like assigned seating? Did I miss the memo?

As far as full power goes, jets rarely use it. Even on a “go around”, the jet normally uses reduced thrust, just like most takeoffs. It seems more intense when you almost touch down and “take of” again. The jet weighs significantly less on landing than it did when it took off. Most big domestic jets burn in the neighborhood of 6000 pounds of fuel per hour. It’s not uncommon to weigh 20,000 to 30,000 pounds lighter for landing depending on the length of the flight. Imagine your vehicle or boat loaded to the gills vs. 1/4 tank of gas by yourself.

I was boarding a flight from Charlotte to MSP, and there was a guy in-line in front of me who wouldn’t shut up about being in the last boarding group – He was going on-and-on about how he checked-in the minute he could on his phone 24 hrs earlier and he still got stuck in the last group. I wanted to tell him that when you check in has nothing to do with it, but I kept my mouth shut. You can’t win with people like that.

ThunderLund78 wrote:

I was boarding a flight from Charlotte to MSP, and there was a guy in-line in front of me who wouldn’t shut up about being in the last boarding group – He was going on-and-on about how he checked-in the minute he could on his phone 24 hrs earlier and he still got stuck in the last group. I wanted to tell him that when you check in has nothing to do with it, but I kept my mouth shut. You can’t win with people like that.

He probably drives a ram and doesnt know what a rapala is anyway

big_g wrote:

Same for me.. the wife wants on ASAP.. so the overhead bin above our seats isn’t jammed with someone else’s shi7 already. I want to walk on and they close the door. Who are these dips that think they have a right to put there stuff in my bin ?

its the people that have a maximum size carry on they put in the overhead bin and then they also have a “personal item” (which is supposed to go on the floor at your feet) that is dam near the same size as the carry on and they throw that up in the overhead bin too. They do this to avoid checking a bag and it ends up screwing over the people in the last boarding group because the overhead bins are already full. Many times people’s personal item is bigger than my carry on. The flight attendants don’t enforce anything related to personal items being in the overhead bins, so people abuse the system.

ThunderLund78 wrote:

I was boarding a flight from Charlotte to MSP, and there was a guy in-line in front of me who wouldn’t shut up about being in the last boarding group – He was going on-and-on about how he checked-in the minute he could on his phone 24 hrs earlier and he still got stuck in the last group. I wanted to tell him that when you check in has nothing to do with it, but I kept my mouth shut. You can’t win with people like that.

You can’t fix stupid.

Gitchi Gummi wrote:

its the people that have a maximum size carry on they put in the overhead bin and then they also have a “personal item” (which is supposed to go on the floor at your feet) that is dam near the same size as the carry on and they throw that up in the overhead bin too. They do this to avoid checking a bag and it ends up screwing over the people in the last boarding group because the overhead bins are already full. Many times people’s personal item is bigger than my carry on. The flight attendants don’t enforce anything related to personal items being in the overhead bins, so people abuse the system.

You are 100% correct. The absolute root of all of this traced back to when airlines started charging for bags. However, that charge has been the norm for about 20 years now, and although it’s stayed there because of corporate greed, every flier knows about it and as you stated Mr. Gummi, it causes people to act crazy with the baggage situation. I tend to follow rules in life so I’ve never pushed it and we typically end up checking bags, yet as you said you can always find a large percentage of passengers with way too many “carry-ons” or ones that should have 100% been checked. That causes the mad dash to get on the plane and claim some of the finite space available. And as mentioned, airlines rarely do anything to enforce it. Spirit/Frontier does, and because of that they get crucified in reviews. I’ve probably flown Spirit at least half a dozen times (never had any issues) and there’s always someone about to lose their mind that the terms they agreed to when booking their flight are being enforced in regards to their carry-on; they likely just skipped that part and didn’t do any research. Then that person spreads the word about how awful and cheap Spirit is and a reputation is formed. I don’t have a dog in the fight, I’m not trying to really defend Spirit at all, I’m just saying a huge percentage of complaints against them come from people mad about something they should have already been aware of.

The top 3 things I hate about flying:

1. People 15+ rows back immediately standing up the second the plane lands and attempting to grab their stuff from the bins. You create a traffic jam and get in other peoples’ way. Don’t stand up or grab your s**t until the people a row or two ahead of you are exiting. If you do this, I have to assume you don’t understand how to merge on a highway either.

2. The people who the second the seatbelt light goes off and you reach cruising altitude choose to use the plane like their own workout center. They stand, stretch, are spotted taking 3 restroom breaks on the same 3 hour flight, and usually flag down the flight attendant for a minimum of 2 stupid things. These people are often the ones who go on a device and play some annoying game or watch a show without headphones too.

3. As previously noted, the concept of racing onto the plane just to sit there is asinine. The bins sometimes fill up because people cannot follow directions about carry-on size, but I like to travel as light as possible and appreciate efficency.

***Honorable Mention*** I have a wife, 2 kids (with a third on the way), and more irons in the fire with work, side jobs, community stuff, etc…..I don’t want to attempt to make lifelong friends with the person sitting next to me. I’m polite and will help grab bags, keep stuff in my area, but I don’t want to hear about your 11 grand children or all the places you’ve traveled or your dogs back home. If the plane is quiet it might be the most relaxation I get all week. Silence is an underrated thing.

Is that a new thing where you get assigned overhead bin space just like assigned seating? Did I miss the memo?

Yes, its called common sense. Now I know who.

on top of people abusing the personal item, throw in females who have massive sized purses – often times bigger than my carry on – and there’s a chain reaction with that. They have a big @$$ purse so the purse goes at their feet. Then there’s no room for their personal item at their feet so it goes up in the bin along with their carry on. Often times I’ll see women boarding a plane with 3 or 4 bags (carry on, personal item, purse, and one more random over the shoulder bag) which is crazy. Not being sexist – men typically don’t carry pursues as well as they typically pack lighter than females.

Exasperating the situation is people who are geometrically challenged and don’t understand the most efficient way to place their carry on in the overhead bins and end up taking up double the space in the overhead bin compared to if they weren’t idiots.

Last month my family was the very last to board (short layover and 1st flight delayed) and the 5 of us (wife + kindergartener + twin pre-schoolers) had 5 full size rolling carry-ons that of course ended up spread out over the entire plane – and that was the least of my worries.

The kicker was we ended up spread out all over too… after sprinting from gate to gate while pushing 3 little kids along, the gate attendant kindly hands me 5 tickets and says “sir we had to move your seats around”. So I’m like OK whatever and don’t look at the seats until I’m standing in the middle of a fully boarded plane with everyone’s eyes staring daggers at us. That’s when I realize they freaking split us up and put my kindergarten daughter in a middle seat by herself, 10 rows behind me and one of the boys, and my wife and the other boy 4 rows in front of us. And of course I’m trying to explain this to them at 8:00 pm at night, well passed their normal bedtime. Needless to say daughter wasn’t having it and after a short discussion with my 6 year old boss-baby she ended up sitting with one of the boys and I got the way back seat by myself. Win, win really.