3 years and 400 million off!

  • Jason
    Posts: 814
    #2093397

    Just heard that the Southwest Light Rail dream project had some bad planning again. It’s delayed 3 more years and is $400 million over budget as of now.
    The bright side is the nice statues in front of Scheels should last a little longer before the vandalism starts.

    munchy
    NULL
    Posts: 4947
    #2093400

    I’m shocked…

    ….that its only 400 million…

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10598
    #2093405

    I’m shocked…

    ….that its only 400 million…

    For now anyway

    Anonymous
    Inactive
    Posts: 0
    #2093412

    SNAFU

    Does it really surprise anybody?

    toddrun
    Posts: 513
    #2093418

    The most expensive homeless shelter in history….

    Deuces
    Posts: 5268
    #2093421

    I know a railroad guy who said this couple years ago. Nothing new as far as they knew

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16766
    #2093427

    Have they figured out how to make people pay to ride it?

    Jason
    Posts: 814
    #2093434

    Have they figured out how to make people pay to ride it?

    They only harass/check the people coming out of the stadiums after a game since they figure that they have the $ to pay for a ticket. I bet with this cold weather it’s more of a heated shelter than a transportation method…

    beardly
    Hastings, Mn
    Posts: 475
    #2093436

    There isn’t a met council project out there that runs smooth…..

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23299
    #2093451

    I wouldnt ride that thing anymore. Watch the crime continue to spread outside the downtown areas as this reaches out.

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 8367
    #2093456

    It was a great way into downtown to avoid parking and chaos…..and then once that 1 year honeymoon period was over and they gave up on enforcement of any policies, it snowballed. I’d consider this project THE biggest waste of taxpayer dollars in my time living here without any close second.

    bzzsaw
    Hudson, Wi
    Posts: 3484
    #2093485

    What a boondoggle. I’m sure glad Wisconsin shut down the light rail before it got started.

    supercat
    Eau Claire, WI
    Posts: 1338
    #2093663

    What a boondoggle. I’m sure glad Wisconsin shut down the light rail before it got started.

    For now but as the agendas keep getting pushed it might not be as far out as we think.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11862
    #2093671

    Just wait until it’s done and it takes an hour+ to go from EP to Downtown, I’m sure people will be lining up…. doah Light rail or any rail/train is such a waste outside of extremely dense metropolitan areas. Buses would be a FAR better and cheaper investment, but still not likely to have mass uptake in MN imo.

    Brent Siebenaler
    Posts: 78
    #2093733

    Sure is a good thing road construction projects are never delayed nor over budget.

    gizmoguy
    Crystal,MN
    Posts: 756
    #2093827

    And once it’s done they predict to have to subsidize each rider @ $15.xx. So double that to equal reality. There is still no plan on how to pay for that subsidy. The half cent Hennepin county train sales tax adder won’t cover the annual operating losses.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11862
    #2093863

    Sure is a good thing road construction projects are never delayed nor over budget.

    Any examples that are comparable to this, or previous rail projects?

    duh queen
    Posts: 547
    #2093912

    OK, so we build a 2 billion dollar rail spur, with limited access and use, and expect it to be self sustaining? Only in a DFLer’s dreams. The clowns in DUluth keep pushing for a similar high speed system that will connect them with the casino in Hinkley, and the TC…..even though the AMTRACK train of the 70’s couldn’t sustain itself WHILE IT RAN ON AN EXISTING RAIL LINE!
    Any, no, EVERY, proponent of these boondoggles needs to be held accountable for their vote/support. If they really believe this is a good idea, they should be willing to fund it by paying 4x what the average tax payer is getting soaked for until the whole steenkin’ thing gets paid off. As Maggie Thatcher once said: “socialism works until they run out of other people’s money”.

    duh queen
    Posts: 547
    #2093919

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Brent Siebenaler wrote:</div>
    Sure is a good thing road construction projects are never delayed nor over budget.

    Any examples that are comparable to this, or previous rail projects?

    The county I live in borrowed about $11 million during the Clinton administration at 8% because the then finance director claimed that “interest rates would never be lower”. The caveat for getting that 8% rate was that the municipality was required to have a shovel ready plan for spending it within 2 years. Fast forward 18 months. The repayment window is approaching because the money hasn’t been dedicated yet, so in less than 5 months an entire county/city municipal courthouse & jail was designed and permitted (a bureaucratic impossibility!). The total budget was allegedly to come in under $19 million. When all was said and done, it went north of $43 million because the designers forgot things like doors, windows, elevators, or equipping the entire jail complex. I somehow think that if the folks making the decision to move forward were on the hook financially for the over-runs, things would have been different.
    Ironically, the old city hall, built in the 70’s, that was unfit and unsafe to occupy, is still safe, fit, and occupied by private businesses. Go figure.

    Reef W
    Posts: 2818
    #2093986

    OK, so we build a 2 billion dollar rail spur, with limited access and use, and expect it to be self sustaining?[/quote

    I’m not saying it was a good idea but who ever said it would be self sustaining? The other light rail lines, buses, and roads are not self sustaining either. Northstar is the most expensive per passenger.

    Brent Siebenaler
    Posts: 78
    #2094240

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Brent Siebenaler wrote:</div>
    Sure is a good thing road construction projects are never delayed nor over budget.

    Any examples that are comparable to this, or previous rail projects?

    Site won’t allow links to be posted….look up the project in Duluth right now that is $100 million over budget.

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