What is wrong with the lawmakers in MN? Aren’t there more serious issues to be working on then abolishing 3.2 beer? (which really isn’t 3.2 beer anyway)
http://www.startribune.com/come-friday-minnesota-will-become-only-state-selling-3-2-beer/564202482/
Helsh No! Get rid of that junk. How is 3.2 beer not 3.2 beer by the way?
Helsh No! Get rid of that junk. How is 3.2 beer not 3.2 beer by the way?
Last i remember it was cheaper for Budweiser to label their cans as 3.2 and put regular in it and pay the fines then it was to actually make a 3.2 beer.
With beer makers threatening to discontinue making it altogether, it has been an issue here in Utah also.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>bob clowncolor wrote:</div>
Helsh No! Get rid of that junk. How is 3.2 beer not 3.2 beer by the way?Last i remember it was cheaper for Budweiser to label their cans as 3.2 and put regular in it and pay the fines then it was to actually make a 3.2 beer.
Urban legend. I think we all heard that in high school…along with Marilyn Manson’s rib removal.
along with Marilyn Manson’s rib removal
What?! You mean he cant s his own d?
And here I’ve been saving up for the same operation for years now….. 
My $0.02: If there’s a market for it then fine. The thing is that nobody wants to drink it and it’s a remnant of outdated laws. I don’t believe that abolishing 3.2 is necessary, but rather removing restrictions from selling “normal” beer at supermarkets, etc. would be good. My opinion (admittedly haven’t looked at data) is that it doesn’t make financial sense for breweries to make 3.2 beer for very limited markets which are likely not driven by consumer demand in the first place but rather the current restrictive policies.
Busch Light is 4.0% ABV. So you need to drink 7 1/2 3.2 beers to get the same effect as 6 Busch Lights. 
To EPG’s point, though, there are bigger fish to fry.
The “bigger fish to fry” comment always leaves me scratching my head. When MN lawmakers fire up the skillet they usually burn those big fish to a crisp anyway. The existence of big problems doesn’t invalidate attempts to solve smaller ones.
It’s so very Minnesotan to think we need different rules from everyone else. Yep, 49 states are wrong and Minnesota takes the high road once again lol. How long did MN cling to the ban on Sunday sales? Has the state gone to crap since we finally go that change?
My $0.02: If there’s a market for it then fine. The thing is that nobody wants to drink it and it’s a remnant of outdated laws. I don’t believe that abolishing 3.2 is necessary, but rather removing restrictions from selling “normal” beer at supermarkets, etc. would be good. My opinion (admittedly haven’t looked at data) is that it doesn’t make financial sense for breweries to make 3.2 beer for very limited markets which are likely not driven by consumer demand in the first place but rather the current restrictive policies.
Agree
The “bigger fish to fry” comment always leaves me scratching my head. When MN lawmakers fire up the skillet they usually burn those big fish to a crisp anyway. The existence of big problems doesn’t invalidate attempts to solve smaller ones.
Thank you for this! This drives me nuts.
“I think we may have a problem with mass shootings, since they seem to happen here a lot.”
“SO YOU DON’T CARE ABOUT FACTORY JOBS DRYING UP ACROSS THE COUNTRY? IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING? MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE LOSING THEIR JOBS! HOW DARE YOU.”
uhhh, no. It’s possible for human beings to have the mental capacity to care about more than one problem at a time, and it’s also possible to make progress on more than one thing at a time too!
Busch Light is 4.0% ABV. So you need to drink 7 1/2 3.2 beers to get the same effect as 6 Busch Lights.
To EPG’s point, though, there are bigger fish to fry.
If Busch lite is 4.0% alcohol by volume. Then it’s technically the same alcohol content as it’s 3.2 version.
3.2 is alcohol by WEIGHT and due to the density differences it turns out to be right around 4.0 alcohol by volume.
Which even makes all of this red tape sillier because they don’t even use the same units of measure.
It always amazes me how difficult it is for Gov’t to overturn or change obviously dumb laws, even with massive public support. Is there anyone out there clamoring for more 3.2 beer? Judging from the 3.7 cases a month sold per store the answer is no, but still not a slam dunk to get rid of it “because it’s not that simple”…
The “bigger fish to fry” comment always leaves me scratching my head. When MN lawmakers fire up the skillet they usually burn those big fish to a crisp anyway. The existence of big problems doesn’t invalidate attempts to solve smaller ones.
It’s probably the wrong analogy then. How about, “We have more important and more urgent problems to solve?”
I don’t disagree that this state still has WAY too many Scandinavian Puritan laws on the books in this state that are just plain stupid. However…
Every time our esteemed legislature gets together, they struggle to do the one and ONLY thing they MUST do–pass a budget. But yet they are also supposed to find time to debate the relative merits of 3-2 beer, recreational pot, and pet neutering laws?
It’s not about the size of the problem, it’s about the best use of the most precious commodity–time. When everything is a priority, nothing is a priority.
This one at a time approach is a huge time waster. Surley bill, 3-2 bill, a bill on too many bills. Here’s an idea for Howsley. Package together a whole bill full of Scandinavian Puritan Laws that need to be struck down.
– 3.2 beer.
– Ban on Sunday car sales.
– No beer/wine in supermarkets.
Etc, etc, etc. Add yours to the list. Then roll them up in one bill and kill them all at once.
Grouse
It’s not about the size of the problem, it’s about the best use of the most precious commodity–time. T When everything is a priority, nothing is a priority.
his one at a time approach is a huge time waster. Surley bill, 3-2 bill, a bill on too many bills. Here’s an idea for Howsley. Package together a whole bill full of Scandinavian Puritan Laws that need to be struck down.
– 3.2 beer.
– Ban on Sunday car sales.
– No beer/wine in supermarkets.Etc, etc, etc. Add yours to the list. Then roll them up in one bill and kill them all at once.
Grouse 2020!!!
3.2 is alcohol by WEIGHT
Huh, I didn’t know that!
TFG we can agree to disagree. I believe you could give them all the time in the world and they would still struggle to pass the budget.
One thing at a time is the only way to get anything done in this state. Different interest groups oppose different issues for different reasons. Bundle them all up at once and you face all that opposition from multiple angles at once. Break it down to a specific issue and the opposition can be seen for what it is — usually a small group with a financial interest in maintaining the status quo.
While you guys are approaching this from a logical perspective you need to remember that lawmakers, interest groups, etc do not actually want resolution/progress. That puts them out of work. Red, blue, yellow, green, purple – doesn’t matter. Nobody in the political sphere actually wants to “win” because then what?
No I’m not advocating for anarchy and yes I have a healthy understanding of the democratic model and yes I’m generalizing. This post is not meant to be politically biased; rather a perspective on how politics works…or doesn’t. Please do not ban me for being a skeptic of the motives of players in the political sphere 
Minnesota also sells 3.2 fireworks.
^HA!! So true Belletaine!!
It’s not about the size of the problem, it’s about the best use of the most precious commodity–time. When everything is a priority, nothing is a priority.
Grouse for 2020!
I’m in on this!
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Ralph Wiggum wrote:</div>
Busch Light is 4.0% ABV. So you need to drink 7 1/2 3.2 beers to get the same effect as 6 Busch Lights.To EPG’s point, though, there are bigger fish to fry.
If Busch lite is 4.0% alcohol by volume. Then it’s technically the same alcohol content as it’s 3.2 version.
3.2 is alcohol by WEIGHT and due to the density differences it turns out to be right around 4.0 alcohol by volume.
Which even makes all of this red tape sillier because they don’t even use the same units of measure.
Thank you! I was going to type this up but lost interest. Lol. I always laugh when people rip on 3.2.
DT
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^HA!! So true Belletaine!!
It’s not about the size of the problem, it’s about the best use of the most precious commodity–time. When everything is a priority, nothing is a priority.
Grouse for 2020!
I’m in on this!
I think the push for this is to create free market on sales. Who can be against that?
This can open up sales for the growing beer hack micro fad to let them sink or sail without intervention.
Sorry to offend the micro fad crowd. Its like, is almond milk really milk.
We were up north over MEA and the Castle Danger brewery had signs up that they can no longer sell growlers or any off sale because….they have suceeded to a point where they make too much beer so it is against MN law.
Isn’t 3.2 beer a mute issue now that sunday liquor sales are allowed? Only reason I ever drank 3.2 was to lazy to drive to WI on a Sunday when I realized didn’t stock up enough going into weekend
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