2025 Toyota Tundra….Anyone drive a Tundra?

Hello, looking at a 2025 Tundra, I’ve never shopped them…seem like alot of features for the $

I’ve owned Ram, Fords in the past.

Anyone have .02 on experience with Toyota?

Looked at the Tundras, ended up buying a 2022 Toyota 4Runner. Really like the Toyotas. My wife bought a new Sienna in 2006, won’t give it up even when I tease her that she qualifies for collector plates in two years. The Sienna has been bulletproof, the 4Runner is relatively new to me but I really like it. I recommend Toyota.

I’ve never owned one, but do know a couple people that do. The best 1/2 ton truck on the market. The only thing that would concern me is the new turbo engine. If I was looking to purchase I would look for the lowest mile used one of the last V8 engine. Also was in a really bad wreck in one and can say first hand you can survive a wild ride in one.

Brad Dimond wrote:

My wife bought a new Sienna in 2006, won’t give it up even when I tease her that she qualifies for collector plates in two years.

This seems to be the most common “complaint” about Toyotas. Damnit they just last too long. Why can’t they fix that?

John Rasmussen wrote:

The only thing that would concern me is the new turbo engine.

Anything could happen, but the idea that Toyota is suddenly going to produce a turd of an engine, like, now? It’s a little hard to envision.

The prices are nuts still. Great reliable brand but man the prices are crazy. Most full size trucks are nuts from any manufacture but still.

TheFamousGrouse wrote:

Anything could happen, but the idea that Toyota is suddenly going to produce a turd of an engine, like, now? It’s a little hard to envision.

Agreed Grouse, I think they will figure it out. Most of the survival revolves around the oil change interval and the person that owns them.

Toyota did have serious issues with the new turbo engine early on. Over 100,000 ’22 and ’23 models. A lot of info online about it. But, they’re doing the right thing and recalling and replacing all affected engines. SIL bought the hybrid version this fall and I am very impressed with that truck. I’ve ran Ford for 30 years and the latest cam phaser failure was the last straw. The Tundra will likely be my next truck.

I had a 2015 and traded it for a new one in 2020. I think they went to the turbos in ’21 or ’22, so I know nothing about them. Other than a couple cracked windshields my 2006 Scion xB, 2006 Tacoma, 2018 Prius and both Tundras have been trouble free. Tundra is a gas hog, but does everything I need it to do.

Youbetcha wrote:

The prices are nuts still. Great reliable brand but man the prices are crazy. Most full size trucks are nuts from any manufacture but still.

You know it’s bad when Toyota suddenly seems like the most sensibly priced option.

It’s hard to believe it, but after 30-some years of owning nothing but GM vehicles, the shortlist for my next SUV is Toyota Sequoia or Toyota 4 Runner if I can hold out long enough to buy the new version. I’m not even looking at another GM.

The Toyota’s sure look great. I really like the new body. Can’t help on the mechanicals but it’s a Toyota so pretty low risk I would think.

But, lest we forget, there is only 1 resident truck expert on IDO. Until he chimes in I wouldn’t make any decisions.

Matt Moen wrote:

But, lest we forget, there is only 1 resident truck expert on IDO. Until he chimes in I wouldn’t make any decisions

I have a 2020 and have had 0 problems. It tows my boat like it not even there. My 27′ travel trailer tows great but you know its back there. I wish it had a larger payload but that is my only complaint. I bought during Covid and got a great price along with 0% financing. It was my retirement present

John Rasmussen wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>TheFamousGrouse wrote:</div>
Anything could happen, but the idea that Toyota is suddenly going to produce a turd of an engine, like, now? It’s a little hard to envision.

Agreed Grouse, I think they will figure it out. Most of the survival revolves around the oil change interval and the person that owns them.

same could be said about GM and afm engines. If they never had that oil life monitor that went at one point to 10k miles, then backed down to 7500 and now to 5k which is good most issues would have never happened.

Does Toyota still push the 10k oil changes? I know several people that had 2 year maintenance packages with a new Toyota and dealer would not change oil unless 10k from last oil change.

mxskeeter wrote:

Does Toyota still push the 10k oil changes? I know several people that had 2 year maintenance packages with a new Toyota and dealer would not change oil unless 10k from last oil change.

Yes they do. My wife took almost 15 months to get to that point. She works from home. I installed a Fumoto valve and do my own. Looks like I will have to do the same on the wifes Rav4.

Regardless of brand that interval is just asking for trouble. These new tundras are sharp for sure and really upped the infotainment system to be on par with the rest. Buddy has one but he is not a truckie I asked him which motor it had which I know there is only the turbo v6 and he said I have no idea. He likes it though but it isn’t worked at all.

Thank you for all info, trucks MSRP are still extremely high but I’ve been looking at all brands and they all seem to have 8k-12k off. Toyota doesn’t take much off MSRP but Ford and Ram are giving deals off msrp. Ford is anywhere from 1.9 to 2.9 percent and Dodge is 4.9 on new vehicles….GMC is 0 for 36 months, that’s a heavty payment on a 60k truck. Toyota is 2.9, they are asking 63K for a Tundra Turbo Crew. Ford Platinums must be ordered do to inventory levels, a few nice dodges out there but I have one now and was never really impressed with it.

From what I understand the primary issue with the new turbo V6’s was that a lot of them had machining debris left in the block that didn’t get cleaned during assembly, and has led to a significant number of those engines grenading themselves in as little as 10k miles. Lots of information online about it, but it sounds like this is mostly isolated from mid ’22 when they started the new body/engines to December builds of ’23. They’re on my short list for my next upgrade, as I don’t see myself needing anything larger than a half-ton any time soon. I’d also not be sad about snagging a mint ’20-’22 second gen that still had the 5.7. Love the looks of those trucks and that motor is dead reliable.

Like anything, there are going to be some growing pains with all the companies implementing turbo V6’s due to emissions regulations, but they will figure it out. If you travel outside the US much you’ll notice that most SUVs in foreign markets are powered by some form of small turbo-diesel or turbo 4/6 cylinder gas motor.

Pretty hard to find any legit argument why Ford/Chevy/GMC/Ram can even come remotely close to Toyota in terms of reliability and longevity.

The engines are bad and it’s a design flaw……will the brand new crank bearings hold up longer than the old design? Toyota hasn’t had to update their tech because they sell more Camrys than trucks. I have heard of many dealerships that won’t take any new turbo tundras in on trade….

I would let this fiasco work itself out before I buy any Toyota with that engine.

Gitchi Gummi wrote:

Pretty hard to find any legit argument why Ford/Chevy/GMC/Ram can even come remotely close to Toyota in terms of reliability and longevity.

The issue they had with the first turbos were a pretty big dent in the argument that Toyota reliability is unmatched.

rumriverrunner wrote:

Thank you for all info, trucks MSRP are still extremely high but I’ve been looking at all brands and they all seem to have 8k-12k off. Toyota doesn’t take much off MSRP but Ford and Ram are giving deals off msrp. Ford is anywhere from 1.9 to 2.9 percent and Dodge is 4.9 on new vehicles….GMC is 0 for 36 months, that’s a heavty payment on a 60k truck. Toyota is 2.9, they are asking 63K for a Tundra Turbo Crew. Ford Platinums must be ordered do to inventory levels, a few nice dodges out there but I have one now and was never really impressed with it.

Thank you for giving an honest opinion and review. That is something that lots of people struggle with when they own a product that isn’t all that they thought it would be. I’m not sure if it’s them trying to convince themselves they didn’t screw up making the purchase or what it is.

walleyesforme wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>rumriverrunner wrote:</div>
Thank you for all info, trucks MSRP are still extremely high but I’ve been looking at all brands and they all seem to have 8k-12k off. Toyota doesn’t take much off MSRP but Ford and Ram are giving deals off msrp. Ford is anywhere from 1.9 to 2.9 percent and Dodge is 4.9 on new vehicles….GMC is 0 for 36 months, that’s a heavty payment on a 60k truck. Toyota is 2.9, they are asking 63K for a Tundra Turbo Crew. Ford Platinums must be ordered do to inventory levels, a few nice dodges out there but I have one now and was never really impressed with it.

Thank you for giving an honest opinion and review. That is something that lots of people struggle with when they own a product that isn’t all that they thought it would be. I’m not sure if it’s them trying to convince themselves they didn’t screw up making the purchase or what it is.

This is too rich. A guy that unapologetically bashes a truck brand he doesn’t even own calls out owners who are proud of their purchases.

Zero issues w my 19 tundra so far. Also have a 99 avalon that runs perfect.

PmB wrote:

Zero issues w my 19 tundra so far. Also have a 99 avalon that runs perfect.

Ahh, the good old days.

Matt Moen wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Gitchi Gummi wrote:</div>
Pretty hard to find any legit argument why Ford/Chevy/GMC/Ram can even come remotely close to Toyota in terms of reliability and longevity.

The issue they had with the first turbos were a pretty big dent in the argument that Toyota reliability is unmatched.

Ford/GM have issues just like this with darn near every one of their last few generations of half tons.

Gitchi Gummi wrote:

Ford/GM have issues just like this with darn near every one of their last few generations of half tons.

you don’t say. Did those companies have a recall to replace a poop ton of engines? Toyota makes good vehicles but they are not without fault. At least my truck doesn’t sound like a garden tractor either.

Ford did https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a62044486/ford-f150-bronco-explorer-edge-lincoln-nautilus-aviator-engine-failure-recall/

And I guess this wasn’t a recall but GM shipped cracked blocks https: // gmauthority.com/blog/2024/02/gm-to-replace-2023-chevy-silverado-turbo-2-7l-engines-produced-with-cracked-blocks/

CaptainMusky wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Gitchi Gummi wrote:</div>
Ford/GM have issues just like this with darn near every one of their last few generations of half tons.

you don’t say. Did those companies have a recall to replace a poop ton of engines? Toyota makes good vehicles but they are not without fault. At least my truck doesn’t sound like a garden tractor either.

That’s the thing, Toyota recalls them and fixes them. The big 3 just let the consumer deal with it. Only personal experience is with the Ford EB. 3 trucks, 5 cam phaser replacements in the last 5 years to the tune of $20k. Not high mileage either. And oil change intervals didn’t exceed 5k miles

Joe Jarl wrote:

Only personal experience is with the Ford EB. 3 trucks, 5 cam phaser replacements in the last 5 years

What years were the trucks? Is it (supposedly) fixed in newer ones?