2024 Vikings

  • Full draw
    Posts: 1251
    #2307609

    What some of you fail to realize here is that when a team gets a double digit or multiple score possession lead in the second half, particularly in the 4th quater, they go into prevent defense. They back way off, and allow the opposition to move the ball in front of them, one first down at a time. The idea behind this is that it eats up clock. Rather than getting beat deep on one or two big plays. Its like slowly bleeding out but you still survive at the end.

    I would argue the only points the Packers scored yesterday was when 1) the Vikings turned it over, and 2) in garbage time when it was 27-10 with 6 mins left in prevent defense mode. Outside of those, they put up a whopping 3 points.

    This scenario has played out several times this season with the Vikings, including the week before against the Seahawks too. Up 17-7, go into prevent defense mode. Seattle works their way back into the game.

    Every team in the entire NFL does it. Its not something one or two teams do. They all do it. I don’t particularly care for it, but if you think the Packers walked up and down the field to make it a close game, you didn’t see the same defense I saw from the Vikings when they were not in prevent mode late.

    Well said.
    The other is running the ball to eat the clock. The Pack defense played a good game against the run all game. Why run the ball to eat clock when they know you are going to run the ball to eat the clock. KOC definitely had an aggressive play strategy for late in the game. The only mistake I seen made was the forced throw and an INT.
    Before that INT I told my wife. If the Vike’s can march down the field and score the game is over. A few seconds later they throw the INT.

    Matt Moen
    South Minneapolis
    Posts: 4479
    #2307618

    77 percent of NFL games are 1 score games this year.

    Some of you need to enjoy the ride. This is not the same old Vikings.
    This is the KOC era. Completely different. Do you think he cares about Vikings teams of the past. They have not had these offensive weapons since CC and Moss and haven’t had a defense like this in a long time.
    They are 14-2 with a chance at the number 1 seed next week. What else do they need to do at this point to prove they are one of the best teams in the NFC.

    They just held J Love to 19-30 for 185 yards. Beat the cheese twice in one season.

    I agree with this. The team a couple years ago that lost to the Giants was different. Kirk never won big games and some of their wins were so fluky. This team wins games…the offense needed a first down yesterday and got it. Been fun to watch.

    I do think they need home field to make a run though. This team is different at home, especially the defense when it gets loud.

    mxskeeter
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 4030
    #2307650

    What some of you fail to realize here is that when a team gets a double digit or multiple score possession lead in the second half, particularly in the 4th quater, they go into prevent defense. They back way off, and allow the opposition to move the ball in front of them, one first down at a time. The idea behind this is that it eats up clock. Rather than getting beat deep on one or two big plays. Its like slowly bleeding out but you still survive at the end.

    I would argue the only points the Packers scored yesterday was when 1) the Vikings turned it over, and 2) in garbage time when it was 27-10 with 6 mins left in prevent defense mode. Outside of those, they put up a whopping 3 points.

    This scenario has played out several times this season with the Vikings, including the week before against the Seahawks too. Up 17-7, go into prevent defense mode. Seattle works their way back into the game.

    Every team in the entire NFL does it. Its not something one or two teams do. They all do it. I don’t particularly care for it, but if you think the Packers walked up and down the field to make it a close game, you didn’t see the same defense I saw from the Vikings for 3.5 quarters.

    The Packers had scored 30 or more points in the last 5 straight games. They put up 3 on their own yesterday. I’d call that pretty good defense against a team that had been a buzz saw on offense.

    gim I agree with you on the points you made above but, the Packers scored 10 points on their own.

    Bass Pundit
    8m S. of Platte/Sullivan Lakes, Minnesocold
    Posts: 1898
    #2307686

    Right now, the Eagles, Vikings, and Lions can all finish the season with a record of 14-3. If that happens the Eagles will get the #1 Seed in the NFC. The places that say the Eagles have been eliminated from #1 Seed contention are factually wrong. I was giving out the correct info and was corrected a couple of times with inaccurate info.

    I was responding to a couple of absurd posts about how the Lions had nothing to play for tonight and could rest their starters.

    If the Lions win tonight, the Eagles are eliminated because either the Vikes or Lions will finish with just 2 losses.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11943
    #2307689

    Detroit and Vikes hold the conference record tie break over the eagles. Which in your scenario that is what tie breaker would be used. There is not a scenario the Eagles can be 1.

    weedis
    Sauk Rapids, MN
    Posts: 1462
    #2307690

    Well I guess espn, the nfl and every other network is giving out false information lol.

    The eagles are the 2 seed, can’t move bass pundit. Not sure where you are getting your info from

    James Almquist
    Posts: 435
    #2307692

    If the Vikes win out:

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    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 18029
    #2307700

    Well I guess espn, the nfl and every other network is giving out false information lol.

    The eagles are the 2 seed, can’t move bass pundit. Not sure where you are getting your info from

    No they aren’t. Bass pundit is incorrect. The Eagles are locked into the 2 seed and will host the 7 seed in the wild card round. That is 100% fact.

    Also a fact: the Lions have absolutely nothing to play for tonight against San Fran. As to whether their coach chooses to treat it like that is another story.

    Bass Pundit
    8m S. of Platte/Sullivan Lakes, Minnesocold
    Posts: 1898
    #2307701

    Detroit and Vikes hold the conference record tie break over the eagles. Which in your scenario that is what tie breaker would be used. There is not a scenario the Eagles can be 1.

    That is true as of right now. If the Lions lose tonight and Vikes lose next week. They will all be equal in the Conference. Lions would hold the head to head over the Vikes, so they are eliminated and Eagles hold the tiebreaker over the Lions on common opponents. Lions eliminated.

    Bass Pundit
    8m S. of Platte/Sullivan Lakes, Minnesocold
    Posts: 1898
    #2307709

    I was under the impression that the Eagles had beaten the Bucs, but they in fact lost to them. So the Lions must beat the Eagles on another layer of tiebreaker.

    I was wrong, you guys are right.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11943
    #2307714

    I was under the impression that the Eagles had beaten the Bucs, but they in fact lost to them. So the Lions must beat the Eagles on another layer of tiebreaker.

    I was wrong, you guys are right.

    Lions would be 9-2 in conference if they lost tonight and won next week. They are currently 9-1.

    Eagles are 8-3.

    Like I said before it comes down to conference record for tie breaker.

    Love the fact the Lions are putting more tape out on their starters tonight.

    If the Lions play their starters till end of game, Dan Campbell is a moron.

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 18029
    #2307722

    If the Lions play their starters till end of game, Dan Campbell is a moron.

    It looks like a shoot out. Defense optional.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11943
    #2307724

    KOC..

    Ooh we can attack that guy.
    Ooh that play should work.
    Ooh no way that guy can cover JJ.

    glenn57
    cold spring mn
    Posts: 12226
    #2307725

    KOC..

    Ooh we can attack that guy.
    Ooh that play should work.
    Ooh no way that guy can cover JJ.

    waytogo rotflol rotflol

    Bass Pundit
    8m S. of Platte/Sullivan Lakes, Minnesocold
    Posts: 1898
    #2307728

    KOC..

    Ooh we can attack that guy.
    Ooh that play should work.
    Ooh no way that guy can cover JJ.

    And all the other high football IQ players and coaches are getting ideas in real time as well. I am just astounded by how poor Dan Campbell is at the strategic level. Every hard hit on a Lions player on Offense, yes more please. Beat ’em up, 9er Gang.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11943
    #2307731

    Receivers are getting wide open for SF tonight.

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 18029
    #2307732

    The Vikings offense has to be licking their chops watching the Niners run wild all over the field against the Lions defense. It’s just mass chuck play after another, followed by missed tackles.

    lindyrig79
    Forest Lake / Lake Mille Lacs
    Posts: 6015
    #2307734

    Not 100 percent positive. But I think on that TD Amon-Ra St Brown was trash talking to the Vikings next week

    Full draw
    Posts: 1251
    #2307736

    So far the Detroit punt squad are the only ones getting rested for next weeks game. Wow do they go for it on 4th down a lot.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11943
    #2307739

    Going to be an entertaining game next week.

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 18029
    #2307755

    If the Lions play their starters till end of game, Dan Campbell is a moron.

    Guess what happened.

    Not really that surprising though. I’m fairly certain that just about any other coach in the league would have done it differently.

    The Lions have opened as 2.5 point home favorites over the Vikings on SNF in week 18.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16887
    #2307770

    Why does everybody else want to coach Dan Campbells team? The players have bought into going for it on 4th down. Playing to the end of the game, having fun. Something is working as there doesn’t seem to be alot of prima donna’s over there.

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 12197
    #2307771

    What else do they need to do at this point to prove they are one of the best teams in the NFC

    Win several games in the playoffs will do it for me.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11943
    #2307793

    So after the fact they win games in the playoffs you’re going to say they are good. Kind of hindsight at that point no…

    Also said at this point but…

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11943
    #2307794

    That or an ugly blow out.

    I just don’t see it. Both teams are pretty good. I could see the losing team taking a beating the following week in the playoffs more likely.

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 18029
    #2307796

    I think the Vikings are pretty even with the Lions on offense at this point. The difference is that the Lions defense is essentially non-existent because of injuries. They know it and they need to put up 35 points to win games now. The Vikings have a top 5 defense and they are healthy too. If the Vikings can make a few stops and put more pressure on Goff, they will prevail.

    The first meeting they were without Blake Cashman and he plays a pivotal role in run defense. Gibbs torched them for 150 yards because of it too.

    Vikings 31, Lions 27

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11997
    #2307807

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Ripjiggen wrote:</div>
    What else do they need to do at this point to prove they are one of the best teams in the NFC

    Win several games in the playoffs will do it for me.

    So you’ll think they are one of the best teams in the NFC, once they win the NFC? Bold prediction there cotton.

    This Vikings team is different. They have a pass rush like we have not seen before. And are so strong up the middle with Jalen Redmonds arrival as a difference maker, Cashman and Pace and 3 deep safeties. They play a revolutionary defense where nearly everyone on the field except the DT and CB, play multiple positions, it’s amoeba like and capable of doing whatever is needed to choke out their opponents. The offense is talented all over, and seem to have eliminated the significant dry spells that hindered them earlier in the year. Sky’s the limit. I think if they were playing in the Bank this weekend, it would be very similar to the Packers game, domination with some late scores to tighten it up. Being in Detroit I think helps them a ton, but I don’t see Detroit’s defense stopping us much at all. And I think our defense will pose the biggest challenge the Motor City Kitties have faced in months. I think we dominate statistically, but ends up a close Vikings win. Unless we win the turnover battle then we might blow them out, or we could lose a close one if we lose the turnover battle.

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 21058
    #2307808

    We are all so used to disappointment with this team, it’s hard to admit they are looking good.
    I’m just side lining waiting for the big let down

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