2024 Vikings

  • gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17344
    #2296925

    None of those QB’s (all 4 of them) have won more than a playoff game at best.

    Prescott is 2-5 in 7 playoff games.

    Certainly not very good, but 2 is “more than a playoff game at best.”

    Cousins is 1-4
    Lawrence is 1-1
    Love is 1-1

    When I stated more accomplished, I wasn’t specifially just referring to the playoffs. I was referring to their careers as a whole.

    Tlazer
    Posts: 672
    #2296932

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Tlazer wrote:</div>
    None of those QB’s (all 4 of them) have won more than a playoff game at best.

    Prescott is 2-5 in 7 playoff games.

    Certainly not very good, but 2 is “more than a playoff game at best.”

    Cousins is 1-4
    Lawrence is 1-1
    Love is 1-1

    When I stated more accomplished, I wasn’t specifially just referring to the playoffs. I was referring to their careers as a whole.

    My statement about a “playoff game at best”, was not the actual number of playoff games they won, it was a statement that none of them have taken their teams and won a Championship game or even played in the SB. But seeing how Cousin played for the Vikings, it’s easy to see why his playoff record is what it is. smash rotflol

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17344
    #2296933

    Maybe next time post what you mean. Not a blanket statement that means something else. The rest of us can’t read your mind. We can only read what you type. coffee

    I’ll stand behind my statment that Prescott is a more accomplished quarterback than those other ones listed too. The data, stats, wins, playoff wins, etc whatever parameter you want to use backs that up too since none of them have won or played in a super bowl.

    Whether he, Purdy, Love, Lawrence, or Cousins is worth the money they make at QB is certainly up for debate though.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11624
    #2296937

    Have to disagree with your comment about Prescott and Cousin’s being more accomplished than Love or Lawrence.

    it was a statement that none of them have taken their teams and won a Championship game or even played in the SB.

    None of the 4 have won a Championship game or SB, so not sure how you can use that to determine who’s more accomplished. Due to the overall lack of playoff success among all 4 the only even metric is regular season record: Trevor Lawrence is 21-35 as a starter. Jordan Love is 12-11. Kirk Cousins is 83-73-2. And Dak is 76-45. At this point it’s TBD if Lawrence or Love even get to start that many games in the NFL, let alone start playing good enough to reach the same winning %.

    Joe
    Posts: 206
    #2296942

    Accomplished? Love is kirk Cousins with uncle rico’s mustache.

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 8163
    #2296951

    “Hi CJ Stroud, sorry your WR’s are hurt but nonetheless welcome back.” -Earth

    Arguably not one franchise QB or at least not one face of the league QB in these drafts. Some promise from the class of 24, but still to early to tell.

    Trevor Lawrence is 22-36 as a starter. It’s hard to even consider him as one of the highlighted 3 in that entire list. CJ Stroud is fresh off an 11/31 night this week, and two weeks ago a 10/21 performance.

    If anything, I think people will eventually realize that there was an “Era of the Quarterback” where we were absolutely spoiled by talent + wisdom…and now as a league we’re regressing back to the norm. The Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Brees days of being in the league together and being a near guaranteed 300 + 3TDs each week was something remarkable. Then add to that generation Ben Roethlisberger, Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, and Matt Ryan……..and it really highlights a unique era.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22704
    #2296953

    Stroud is really struggling. After a breakout year last year I expected big things from him and the texans

    ThunderLund78
    Posts: 2524
    #2296959

    Yeah, Stroud was my keeper in FFL and THANK GOD I finally gave up and benched him this week.

    Dan
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 3780
    #2296960

    One thing I would be extremely interested in watching would be a TV show or series where some coaches, GM’s, and scouts go back to draft classes from a few years ago and go into detail about why a player didn’t work out in the NFL. They could review the pre-draft scouting reports and what everyone was saying and then follow their work through the NFL and explain what went wrong and how it went wrong.

    Obviously this would be with the benefit of hindsight but I would be interested in hearing their perspective and see if there are any patterns, because there are no sure-fire things. I tend to favor prospects who play for great teams in big-time games (Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State, etc.) but then there are some obvious discrepancies there: Lewis Cene was a 1st-round pick from an absolutely dominant defense and barely saw the field in the NFL; what didn’t work? Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes didn’t make it to any blue-chip, contending rosters in college and now they’re the talk of the NFL. What slipped by college recruiters but became more obvious to NFL draft scouts?

    One additional note: I just went on about how unpredictable things are, yet I do feel like it almost never goes well when a highly-touted college prospect has traits that some people like but barely played, and my examples are Richardson and Trey Lance. I’m pretty astonished that NFL GM’s were willing to draft those two so high based on such a small sample size from college football.

    crawdaddy
    St. Paul MN
    Posts: 1586
    #2296980

    I’m glad Hock is finally back. Fingers crossed it goes well for him. It was really tough watching Dobbs lost year. He was such a terrible passer. He would throw up a beach ball pass and you knew the receiver would be absolutely drilled upon landing after catching the ball. A lot of hospital passes by that guy.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17344
    #2297248

    Two turnovers have directly led to at least a short FG attempt lost and now a colts TD. Bradbury got manhandled on that sack and scoop TD too.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11586
    #2297249

    Not sure why they picked up the flag. He clearly threw it for a reason.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17836
    #2297250

    Good lord did Bradbury get trucked on that sack/turnerover…

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22704
    #2297251

    Good lord we have a kicker problem again.

    B-man
    Posts: 5793
    #2297253

    Love watching me some Prime-time Vikings mrgreen

    glenn57
    cold spring mn
    Posts: 11804
    #2297254

    Love watching me some Prime-time Vikings mrgreen

    don’t you need to go to bed! devil rotflol

    lindyrig79
    Forest Lake / Lake Mille Lacs
    Posts: 5797
    #2297255

    Woof – pretty tempted to shut off the TV.

    Bass Pundit
    8m S. of Platte/Sullivan Lakes, Minnesocold
    Posts: 1772
    #2297256

    Free 3!
    Darnold starts the 3rd QTR on fire

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17836
    #2297258

    Whoa, a Dallas Turner sighting! Get that kid more snaps!

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17836
    #2297259

    So why do we keep running directly into the “Triangle of Terror”?

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17344
    #2297260

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>CaptainMusky wrote:</div>
    Good lord we have a kicker problem again.

    nah…

    Apparently he actually does have a hamstring issue. I have a feeling they won’t be attempting any more long FGs this game.

    Bass Pundit
    8m S. of Platte/Sullivan Lakes, Minnesocold
    Posts: 1772
    #2297261

    That Colts D has got to be getting worn out.

    Bass Pundit
    8m S. of Platte/Sullivan Lakes, Minnesocold
    Posts: 1772
    #2297264

    NO! you throw that ball to Oliver again. That would have been the knockout punch. Get them back on their heels and run it down their worn-out throats. So stupid!

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16650
    #2297265

    Always amazes me how many unemployed NFL coaches & GM’s reside in little old IDO. laugh

    Bass Pundit
    8m S. of Platte/Sullivan Lakes, Minnesocold
    Posts: 1772
    #2297267

    That INT was on Darnold’s lack of situational awareness. The Vikes had the Colts right where they needed them to be and they let them off the hook and gave the Colts new life. The Colts don’t get that pick and the game is over.

    glenn57
    cold spring mn
    Posts: 11804
    #2297268

    Always amazes me how many unemployed NFL coaches & GM’s reside in little old IDO. laugh

    rotflol rotflol rotflol

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11586
    #2297272

    Too bad you can’t quote a quote anymore cuz this one aged well.

    There’s only one team I like watching lose more than the Vikings….and that’s da Bears peace toast

    The Packers are in 2nd place with a four game win streak, the Vikings in 3rd with a two game losing streak. Next week against the red hot Lions is going to be a tough one

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    lindyrig79
    Forest Lake / Lake Mille Lacs
    Posts: 5797
    #2297289

    For the most part an ugly game. But a win is a win.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17344
    #2297294

    Moving the ball on offense didn’t seem to be an issue. The issue was inability to finish drives with any points in the first half after a red zone INT and two missed FGs. That seemed to change in the second half.

    Thought the defense played very well after getting manhandled the last two weeks. Granted, the Lions and Rams are better offensive teams than the Colts are too.

    The aggressive play call late in the 4th to go for a TD instead of being conservative with a short FG was nice to see.

    Three road games in a row now – at Jacksonville, at Tennessee, at Chicago.

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