2024 Vikings

TillrLife wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
IF Darnold keeps playing at his current level, he’ll sign elsewhere for alot more $ and more importantly more term than the Vikings are willing to give (we’ll offer no more than 1 year)

This will be JJ’s team next year, he’ll be throwing balls at practice in a month or so and then likely running the scout team by the end of the season…

I don’t pay attention to all of the details. But isn’t he on IR, so he can’t practice with the team this year?

I meant more of in an unofficial capacity, not sure what the rules are…just pointing out he’ll be active and not just sitting in a chair with a cast on all season…I believe it was mentioned he was lightly throwing on the sidelines with a trainer during pre-game last Sunday…

fishthumper wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
IF Darnold keeps playing at his current level, he’ll sign elsewhere for alot more $ and more importantly more term than the Vikings are willing to give (we’ll offer no more than 1 year)

This will be JJ’s team next year, he’ll be throwing balls at practice in a month or so and then likely running the scout team by the end of the season…

100% agree. Lots of year left. He may keep playing at the same level, Play even better, or totally go to poop. What happens to him the rest of the year will determine where he’s likely to end up next season, My guess is it will not be here. If healthy at the start of next season JJ will be the starter.

It will be an interesting situation to follow towards the end of the season and into the offseason.

If the Vikings win 13+ games and make it to the NFC Championship game or SB, there will be a case to be made for resigning Darnold. If he is a key part of a SB Championship, I’d have to believe they turn it over to Darnold. There’s clearly a threshold of achievement involved here given how well the team is doing and Darnold’s future.

I feel like a lot of the MN Fanbase is just passing it off assuming it’s only a matter of time that the Vikings start to slip or lay an egg early in the playoffs. …but what IF that doesn’t happen, and they win the whole thing – or at least make the SB?!?! Are they really going to cut ties with a 27 year old QB that got them there? Crazy to think about success like this for the purple fanbase, but not that far fetched

buckybadger wrote:

I feel like a lot of the MN Fanbase is just passing it off assuming it’s only a matter of time that the Vikings start to slip or lay an egg early in the playoffs. …but what IF that doesn’t happen, and they win the whole thing – or at least make the SB?!?! Are they really going to cut ties with a 27 year old QB that got them there? Crazy to think about success like this for the purple fanbase, but not that far fetched

You are correct. If the above happens I doubt they will be willing to pay the kind of money it will take to sign Darnold to a longer term deal ( And he will want a long term deal ) I hope it does happen and we get to sit back and watch how it all plays out in the off season

buckybadger wrote:

Are they really going to cut ties with a 27 year old QB that got them there?

Case Keenum got us 1 game away…we dodged a bullet not signing him as his career went nowhere after that Vikings season…

I don’t know why any of you guys think McCarthy is the annointed one yet. He hasn’t played a single snap in a regular season game. The goal was to develop him into a starting QB, not throw him right into the fire without any game experience or preparation.

McCarthy was not the intended starter this season. I think some of you are forgetting that. This season was supposed to be his development season as a backup. That’s delayed a season, so next season should be the intention of that.

Drafted quarterbacks tend to do much better if they are not starting right away. And let’s be honest, the Vikings look like a legit playoff team this year with Darnold. Simply ignoring that and moving on to a 22 year old unproven, inexperienced QB is not the better plan at this time.

I agree Gim. I think they should bring back Darnold next year because he is better than Mullens and then have JJ behind him for however long that lasts.

He’s a top 10 pick, they are going to play him. Yes, the plan was to have him learn under Darnold and perhaps take over the back half of the season if Darnold wasn’t upto par. The way the season has played out sofar with Darnold playing well, JJ wouldn’t be playing even if he was fully healthy…

JJ showed KOC, Kwesi and other brass during camp and his 1 preseason start that he’s their QB of the future, their Viking careers are tied to his success (less for KOC)…There’s ZERO chance they would sign Darnold long term
and ZERO chance Darnold’s camp would take a 1-2 year deal…just my opinion…

I didn’t say sign Darnold long term. I’d sign him for another season right now though, if not soon. If you wait until the season fully plays out to do it, he’ll go somewhere else with a bigger longer contract.

I understand that McCarthy was drafted with the intention of being the future at the position. He’s not ready for that yet. And he won’t be in week 1 next season either because of his injury this year. Everything with that progression has been delayed by a year here.

You don’t really think that McCarthy showed he’s a capable weekly NFL starter after one partial preason game, do you? Come on. Preseason football is not even a remotely accurate assessment of a players capability.

gim wrote:

I didn’t say sign Darnold long term. I’d sign him for another season right now though, if not soon. If you wait until the season fully plays out to do it, he’ll go somewhere else with a bigger longer contract.

I understand that McCarthy was drafted with the intention of being the future at the position. He’s not ready for that yet. And he won’t be in week 1 next season either because of his injury this year. Everything with that progression has been delayed by a year here.

ZERO chance Sam signs for 1 season…this 1 year $10 season was a last ditch effort to get a starting gig, play well and hopefully set him up for a long term deal to whomever gives it to him…he’s doing exactly that…I agree, if we could sign him for 1 more season that would be a great idea, it just isn’t going to happen…

I disagree with McCarthy not being ready for next season, KOC and Qwesi have gone on record that they feel he’ll be ready next season…

I’m not ready to anoint McCarthy as anything just yet. They did use a high draft pick to get him so the powers to be at the Vikings must feel he is the QB of the future. I’m not so sure they were planning on him siting back for the season and Developing him. I have no doubt had Darnold stumbled even a lit bit that they may not have turned to McCarthy rather quick. I do think his injury helped Darnold a fair amount. He no longer had to look over his shoulder and worry he was just a poor game or two of being replaced. If the Vikings continue to have a great season and Darnold is a big part of it, There is going to be a fair amount of interest in him. I just don’t see the Vikings stepping up and paying him the kind of money they will need to keep him.

I guess I don’t know what Darnold’s stance is on this. How do you know he won’t sign next week for another season? If he’s completely against the idea of doing something like that at this point, then its a moot point.

I personally think he’s already done enough to give him another contract next season.

fishthumper wrote:

There is going to be a fair amount of interest in him. I just don’t see the Vikings stepping up and paying him the kind of money they will need to keep him.

That’s exactly what I’m saying. If you wait until the season is over, then you have zero chance of re-signing him because someone else will do it for a longer term contract. But if you do it now, maybe he accepts another one year deal.

gim wrote:

I guess I don’t know what Darnold’s stance is on this. How do you know he won’t sign next week for another season? If he’s completely against the idea of doing something like that at this point, then its a moot point.

I’m just basing it on every other situation in the league where a non-starter comes in to a team on a 1 year tryout and plays well at QB and then somebody gives him a starter gig with a starter contract…Keenum, Garappalo, etc…These guys need to strike while the iron is hot and get the best deal they can find, the injury risk is too high to go year to year……

If the Vikings make the SB, win or lose Darnold is going to be a 4 year, 120 million + guy somewhere and that’s the absolute floor. MN could offer him or they could roll the dice and move on to JJ.

I think JJ could be really good but there’s also at least a coin toss probability that he could also never get to the level of play that Darnold is currently at.

Will Levis, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson were all 1st round QBs drafted just a year ago. I’d personally rather have Darnold if I was trying to win a game in the playoffs in the next couple years over any of them. Maybe JJ is an anomoly and an absolute stud right out of the gates…or maybe he’s not. For anyone to say he’s absolutely one thing or another is a complete guess at this point.

“A bird in the hand…”

gim wrote:

I personally think he’s already done enough to give him another contract next season.

The Vikings are a missed FG and a terrible INT near the goal line away from being 3-3, Darnold is overachieving for sure, but he’s not the sole reason we’re 5-1

as we’ve seen, KOC is a QB whisperer, this offense could likely be run really well by any QB, JJ has all of the physical tools and most importantly the mental one, I don’t think he’ll have any issues running this offense, just like pocket passers Darnold and Cousins did…

buckybadger wrote:

For anyone to say he’s absolutely one thing or another is a complete guess at this point.

That’s what I’m saying here. People tend to think he’s the annointed long term solution here solely based on his draft status. He isn’t. We literally have no clue what we have here yet.

buckybadger wrote:

Will Levis, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson were all 1st round QBs drafted just a year ago

They also joined terrible teams that give them no tools (WRs/RBs/OL) to give them a chance at success…

gim wrote:

We literally have no clue what we have here yet

It’s a good thing the coaches who see him think through and make EVERY throw in practice do…from what they’ve said, he’s their guy…

gim wrote:

How do you know he won’t sign next week for another season

I don’t. If they want to sign him they would probably be smart to do so soon. The longer the season goes, The more it may end up costing them if he continues to do well and lead the team to win’s. I was mainly replying to the question of what they would do about him if he lead them to the SB and possibly won the SB

fishthumper wrote:

I was mainly replying to the question of what they would do about him if he lead them to the SB and possibly won the SB

IF the Vikings win the Super Bowl, I could careless who they have at QB afterwards, I’ll die a happy man…

JoeMX1825 wrote:

The Vikings are a missed FG and a terrible INT near the goal line away from being 3-3

They are also a first down ( last game , Last Off. series ) away from being 6-0. You are correct he’s not the sole reason, but he is a rather big part of it.

gim wrote:

How do you know he won’t sign next week for another season?

Because he would have signed a longer term deal last offseason. Not sure why he would sign a deal now, midseason, which would be a distraction and also may end up costing him 100’s of millions if he has a great rest of the season. If he is mediocre or bad from here on out, he’s still going to get a backup contract next year. Which is likely all the Vikings would be offering now anyway.

Sounds like Cooper Kupp and possibly Puka Nacua will be back tonight. I don’t think that matters too much on the final outcome, Vikes by 2 scores.

Werm the situation is different now than it was in the offseason. 1 year made sense for Darnold then because JJ was the thought after this year. With a lost season for him it would make sense to sign him again to restart that clock for JJ. IDK if midseason is the right time to sign him but that is another topic.

All of the sudden the Rams look like a much more potent team on offense if Kupp and Nacua are back in their lineup.

Maybe it won’t matter, but I’d much rather play them without those guys at WR.

CaptainMusky wrote:

Werm the situation is different now than it was in the offseason.

Not for Darnold. If anything he has more incentive to wait until the offseason than he did before the season.

You’re right its not different for him, but for the Vikings it sure is.

gim wrote:

All of the sudden the Rams look like a much more potent team on offense if Kupp and Nacua are back in their lineup.

Maybe it won’t matter, but I’d much rather play them without those guys at WR.

They’re both coming off the shelf (if they play) and it’s yet to be seen what their snap count may be. The Rams also have the 26th ranked defense in the league.

Give me the Vikings 31, Rams 20 in a game that’s relatively “boring” with the Vikings never losing control.

Why in the world would Sam sign a 1 year deal right now. Sorry, Sam and more likely his agent are not idiots.

And no JJ McCarty will not be running the scout team this year or even practice with the team. He was placed on IR before the 53 was declared.

buckybadger wrote:

Give me the Vikings 31, Rams 20 in a game that’s relatively “boring” with the Vikings never losing control.

Is there such a thing as the Vikings being in total control or boring???

^I mean the game is never really in doubt, the Vikings lead it from start to finish.