2024 Vikings

CaptainMusky wrote:

They’re signing Gilmore. I like the move big time.

seen that this morning. unfortunately he is just a name at this point in his career but will add some leadership no doubt. 7 mill or up to 10 with incentives.

I think he still has some game left in him but yeah a veteran will definitely help in the room. Cine looked good yesterday.

I’m really looking forward to this season. In the division I know we have good odds to sweep green Bay. The lions will be tough going though.

crawdaddy wrote:

I’m really looking forward to this season. In the division I know we have good odds to sweep green Bay. The lions will be tough going though.

What Sportsbook are you looking at? The Vikings have are a +900 to win the NFC North, at 3rd are the Bears at +325, a significant difference. How the heck would they be a +900 to win the NFC North, but have good odds to sweep the Packers? Packers are a +200 to win the North.

TillrLife wrote:

What Sportsbook are you looking at? The Vikings have are a +900 to win the NFC North, at 3rd are the Bears at +325, a significant difference. How the heck would they be a +900 to win the NFC North, but have good odds to sweep the Packers? Packers are a +200 to win the North.

Ya, I’m not really sure what he was thinking with that post. Must be wishful thinking.

The Lions are still the best team in the division and they are the favorite to win it this season. Here are updated odds. Purple are definitely the long shot.

Lions (+140): 41.7%
Packers (+230): 30.3%
Bears (+330): 23.3%
Vikings (+1000): 9.1%

What do you think it would be if we still had Cousins?

gimruis wrote:

Lions (+140): 41.7%
Packers (+230): 30.3%
Bears (+330): 23.3%
Vikings (+1000): 9.1%

Interesting there’s a +100 difference between where you got your odds and mine(MGM) for the Vikings. I honestly think it should be higher, maybe +2500, their over/under is 6.5 wins. I see no value bet between all 4 teams in the North. Maybe the Pack at +230/200. I like many others just don’t put much faith in a Detroit repeat. You know, because of the implication.

My source was Fanduel when training camp started. Obviously the odds can change some based on injuries and such. I placed a bet on the Lions winning the divison with those odds.

The point I was trying to make here is that the Lions have the highest odds and clearly the Vikings have the worst odds in this division.

TillrLife wrote:

crawdaddy wrote:
I’m really looking forward to this season. In the division I know we have good odds to sweep green Bay. The lions will be tough going though.

What Sportsbook are you looking at? The Vikings have are a +900 to win the NFC North, at 3rd are the Bears at +325, a significant difference. How the heck would they be a +900 to win the NFC North, but have good odds to sweep the Packers? Packers are a +200 to win the North.

Must be drinking the purple Kool Aid that PA is on KFAN.

I actually think they Sam Darnald will do better than what he is projected right now but will be a tough season for sure.

I’m not looking at any odds, just telling you what’s in my gut. And it just might happen if old butterfingers Watson drops another gimmie touchdown. Vikings are a sleeper this year.

Anxious to see how the Bo Nix era works out in Denver…seems like Sean Payton is going the opposite route we were going with JJ…

JoeMX1825 wrote:

Anxious to see how the Bo Nix era works out in Denver…seems like Sean Payton is going the opposite route we were going with JJ…

That’s bc the seat is getting REAL hot in Denver. They paid him a fortune to fix Russell Wilson, and turns out they couldn’t work together. I don’t anticipate Payton lasting 2 more years, despite having 4 years on his contract (which is all guaranteed btw).

They had the over/unders on KFAN this morning, what are your thoughts?

Lions 10.5 wins (I’d take the over)
Packers and Bears 9.5 wins (I’d take under on both)
Vikings 6.5 wins (Over, duh )

IDK there a lot of people who are actually bullish on the Vikings in the media. THey are thinking they could win the division which in all honesty wouldnt completely surprise me but the Lions are dang good we all saw that last year. If the Vikings can stay healthy this is a MUCH improved team over last year because they had so many key injuries.

I don’t see the Vikings winning the division. I see them around 8-9 or 9-8 if they cut down on some of the turnovers they had last season. I think they led the league in that category and if there’s two key stats in the NFL that decide games, it’s turnovers and penalties. If that trend continues they will finish around 6 or 7 wins.

I’ll say Detroit wins it at 11-6.

The roar has been restored.

My guess is the NFC North will have more parity from top to bottom than most divisions. I don’t think the SB champ comes from the North, but there’s no real terrible teams here either.

Lions: 11-6 (Should be AS good, or improved with most key positions having another year in their respective systems and not much roster turnover. If Goff gives them the same play they will be a legitimate contender.)

Packers: 9-8 (I think Love’s sample size was small, and he’s a GOOD but not great NFL QB…and will still make some bad decisions. I have some concerns about the OL. The defense is a wildcard as to what it amounts to with a brand new system.)

Vikings: 8-9 (I think Darnold will have his ups and downs but will consistently be a better option than anyone else the Vikings trotted out there outside of Cousins last year. Don’t be shocked if he opens eyes with his arm and has a few monstrous games. The Vikings front will create consistent pressure against anyone.)

Bears: 8-9 (The Bears pushed a lot of “chips” in to breathe young talent into this roster. With that said, the NFL is a different animal. Growing pains for young talented players are a very real thing. They will beat some good teams and lay some eggs as well)

buckybadger wrote:

Packers: 9-8 (I think Love’s sample size was small, and he’s a GOOD but not great NFL QB…and will still make some bad decisions. I have some concerns about the OL. The defense is a wildcard as to what it amounts to with a brand new system.)

Agreed with your assessments Bucky. The one thing I’d add to the Packers, is that offense was driven by Aaron Jones last year, and while Josh Jacobs is more consistent of a runner he’s nowhere near as explosive imo. And Josh Jacobs while younger, has a lot more mileage on the tires too. And WR by Committee worked well last year, tbd on if that was a trend or mirage.

For the Bears people think bc CJ Stroud had some success in a terrible division last year, that is the norm that Caleb Williams will replicate. It’s not the norm, rookie QB’s having a playoff season in year one has to be about a once every other decade endeavor. Plus not sure who’s watching Hard Knocks, but they compared him to Jordan (yes, that one) in episode one, and people in and out of the organization continually refer to him as the savior. Those are reasonable expectations to put on a kid….

Barring injury of course.

BigWerm wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>buckybadger wrote:</div>
Packers: 9-8 (I think Love’s sample size was small, and he’s a GOOD but not great NFL QB…and will still make some bad decisions. I have some concerns about the OL. The defense is a wildcard as to what it amounts to with a brand new system.)

Agreed with your assessments Bucky. The one thing I’d add to the Packers, is that offense was driven by Aaron Jones last year, and while Josh Jacobs is more consistent of a runner he’s nowhere near as explosive imo. And Josh Jacobs while younger, has a lot more mileage on the tires too. And WR by Committee worked well last year, tbd on if that was a trend or mirage.

I have to respectfully disagree with you on Jones. Most of the year he was injured and did not play or was severely limited. He was on fire during the playoffs, and was certainly the difference maker. But he only scored 2 td’s all season and only 650 yds of rushing, with 300 yard of that the last 3 weeks of the season. I know this because he was on my fantasy team last year, and unfortunately by the time he started producing our fantasy season was over. Jones is a good back, and a better person IMO, but the late season surge of the Pack was due to all the young receivers, TE’s and Love gaining experience and getting to know each other. Jones is a good back, but he is not a bell cow back, and he always had to have his carries limited to be effective for the whole season.

A bell cow back is pretty much a thing of the past these days anyway.

I think Jones was the straw that stirred the drink, but I also feel that only started to happen once Love was a viable threat in the passing game. It’s not as if Jones suddenly became a one man wrecking crew running through constantly loaded boxes. He carried the team as a result of more favorable opportunities.

To compare Jacobs, at this stage of their careers going into the 2024 season I’d defintely rather have Jacobs. I think he has the potential to still tote 15+ carries a game when needed. Many Packers reporters stated that Jones wasn’t probably over 200# by the end of an NFL season and rarely do people get more durable as they age. He is a good fit for the Vikings as a veteran guy who can do everything, but I don’t see him carrying the load week in and week out alone.

I dont think he will need to either. We have a couple other backs that can fill in for him quite a bit so should be able to keep him rested. None of them are studs, but they are serviceable and not named Mattison who missed every hole in front of him.

The opening line for the Vikings-Giants game on Sunday favors the Vikings by 1.5 points.

That’s slightly surprising. The Giants must be pretty bad given that they’re the home team.

gimruis wrote:

The opening line for the Vikings-Giants game on Sunday favors the Vikings by 1.5 points.

That’s slightly surprising. The Giants must be pretty bad given that they’re the home team.

Well the Giants have a lame duck QB and probably GM/HC as well. But you never know in the NFL. I think the Vikes will be in most games this year with an improved defense from middle of the pack last year, and great weapons on offense. TBD on Darnold with KOC’s system and a good OL supporting him.

On paper Giants are pretty bad but remember it was these Vikings that made Danny Dimes a very rich man a few years ago. I think they win and cover. One nuance that many forget to mention is Darnold is very spry and has deceptive speed for a white boy. I would take the over on his rushing total whatever those are at too.

Early on last year the Vikings tried too hard to play just good enough not to lose. That rarely works in the NFL. They started out 0-3 and needed the lowly Panthers with an inexperienced QB to get that first W.

Losing to the Bucs and Charges at home in September 2023 was pretty shameful. They almost had the Chiefs and beat the 49ers (both in the SB) so they were certainly capable in early October if they had the right game plan.

But this is 2024 and everything starts over………..

They had way too many turnovers during the course of the entire season last year. They led the league in that category.

Not a whole you can do when you committ 2 or 3 untimely turnovers every game. Its the single biggest factor in the NFL that decides the outcomes of games.

gimruis wrote:

The point I was trying to make here is that the Lions have the highest odds and clearly the Vikings have the worst odds in this division.

As a song of old asks, “Do you believe in magic?”

I love it when these so called “odds makers” post their predictions only to have the teams ranked somewhere in the stratosphere fall completely on their faces while the teams they predicted to be eating mud run wild in the winning column. Football is a rough game and anything can happen to even the best which allows even the worst to come into the limelight.

Give me the Vikings 27-20 over the Giants.

Darnold will open some eyes.

Does anybody know if you download the Fox9 App will that allow you to stream the Vikings games on your phone? (I also have comcast cable tv) I swear I saw this mentioned on one of their commercials?

If it does, has anybody tested if it allows you to then project the phone screen to your TV?

You can stream off a link through NFL bite. And you can project to a big screen too.