2024/2025 NHL/WILD Offseason-Season-Postseason Thread

The sign that Gus was holding up was absolutely epic.https://x.com/mnwild/status/1885183768560099512

CaptainMusky wrote:

The sign that Gus was holding up was absolutely epic.

I saw that too, couldn’t figure out if it was real or fake…

I was trying to figure it out too. It seems like it would be and if it is they did an excellent job with it.

Dudes are gonna get paid….NHL/NHLPA put out their cap limit estimates for the next 3 years… Sign Rossi ASAP!!!!

What a game by the Wild and there’s another sporting event that you can’t script as well as it actually turned out. Fluery shows up one last time and just to put an exclamation point on it, net-minds a shutout.

Total class shown by Montreal. The last 10 minutes you could hear the crowd roar every time Fluery made a save. THEY wanted a shutout. Wow.

Rossi is a freaking stallion and he’s gonna get PAID.

Ohgren! Way to go. It was almost comical the way all of a sudden he was standing all alone in front of the net with the puck. About half the players in the league in the same situation would have shot that puck over the top of the net.

As somebody else said, Marat is looking awesome. Tha Shore / MK / Lauko line is really giving opponents fits, they’re just all over them.

I went to the previous two home games in person and now you look at the last two games on the road and it’s like a completely different team out there. It’s pretty bizarre.

pretty cool

Does Rossi expect the Boldy contract? That would be $8m x 7 years with new cap projection. Rossi (just using last 2 seasons) has significantly lower production than Boldy did at the time he signed, while Boldy was also 2 years younger. The Boldy contract is super team friendly though so not sure it’s fair to use that as a comp. Rossi is a center so I guess has that going for him, but otherwise no idea how he argues for more $$$ than Boldy

Boldy age 20-21: 46g-56a-102p in 128 games
Rossi age 22-23: 39g-47a-86p in 134 games

tswoboda wrote:

Does Rossi expect the Boldy contract? That would be $8m x 7 years with new cap projection. Rossi (just using last 2 seasons) has significantly lower production than Boldy did at the time he signed, while Boldy was also 2 years younger. The Boldy contract is super team friendly though so not sure it’s fair to use that as a comp. Rossi is a center so I guess has that going for him, but otherwise no idea how he argues for more $$$ than Boldy

Boldy age 20-21: 46g-56a-102p in 128 games
Rossi age 22-23: 39g-47a-86p in 134 games

Biggest difference I see is that Boldy has had exclusive PP1 membership the past 3 seasons, where Rossi has only filled in when injuries dictate it…honestly, looking at those cap projections for the next 3 years, it won’t matter if he’s 7x$7 or 7x$8, either way it’s going to be way under market value in a year or two… Any type of bridge deal is going to cost $10+ in 2 years IF he maintains the level of play he’s had this season…

That’s why GM’s get paid the big bucks (or get fired) they need to make that projection decision…sofar GMBG has been pretty damn good…

Yeah I just think the conversation from the team point of view will be “do you really think we can pay you more than Boldy”? And I mean that in cap%; not actually $AAV. Did Boldy start on PP1 his sophomore season, or get moved there when Kaprizov got hurt?

I think it’s interesting how Boldy is having such a down season and tough to watch so many nights, but still only 1 point behind Rossi… who is having the greatest season in the history of a young Wild player

tswoboda wrote:

Yeah I just think the conversation from the team point of view will be “do you really think we can pay you more than Boldy”? And I mean that in cap%; not actually $AAV. Did Boldy start on PP1 his sophomore season, or get moved there when Kaprizov got hurt?

I think it’s interesting how Boldy is having such a down season and tough to watch so many nights, but still only 1 point behind Rossi… who is having the greatest season in the history of a young Wild player

I think Boldy has been on PP1 since about 20 games into his rookie season? He’s had 26 & 25 PP points the previous 2 seasons, he has 13 sofar this season, Rossi had 6 last year and 10 sofar this season when he’s finally had a chunk of games on the PP1 unit when Zuccy got nutted and now sporadically with Kirill out (Foligno getting in as well? wtf)

I don’t think Rossi gets more % to Cap than Boldy because Boldy scores more goals and that’s weighed more heavily, I think Rossi would prefer to go the 6 year route in order to get the next contract starting at under 30 years old… i’d be fine with a 6 year x 7.5-8aav or if he wants to max out, 8 x $6.5-7 (I don’t know what the discount % is for adding more term years? There’s also factoring in how many UFA years your getting from him in the deal…) There’s also Ek’s 6.44% x8 contract he’ll need to think about, but that was after a 2 year bridge deal and Rossi has proven to be a better goal scorer his first few years…

The kid is humble, has shown he can stay healthy and he’s willing to work on the areas he needs to improve on, not sure what more you can ask from a young player…at worst he’s an solid point producing 2C at about what the market pays those type of players in a few years, but if he keeps improving he could be a 1C averaging 80+ points a season making $7-$8 aav, that’s a steal…

Knowing PP1 time = more point opportunities, will Rossi ever get on the PP1 unit? Assuming Kirill re-signs and Ek stays as the net front guy due to his size and in close stick skills, where does Rossi fit in a future Wild PP1? (especially one that absolutely needs a right hand shot)

Kaprizov – Ek – Boldy – Buium – Signed UFA like Boesser?/Yurov?/Rossi?

tswoboda wrote:

I think it’s interesting how Boldy is having such a down season and tough to watch so many nights, but still only 1 point behind Rossi… who is having the greatest season in the history of a young Wild player

I think the arguments have been he’s Jekyll and Hyde… He’ll get 3 points in a game and look like a rockstar, then disappear for 2-3 games and look completely lost, then score 4 goals in 3 games, then look lost again for 2 games, rinse repeat…He’s been a streaky scorer his entire career…so fans (and probably the Wild staff) are just frustrated he can’t keep the good streaks together longer and minimize the lost moments…some of his PP zone entry and cross-ice saucer pass attempts just make you shake your head at wtf was he thinking?

He’s still just a kid though, so hopefully he grows out of it…

With Boldy I totally get it, far from perfect and very inconsistent. Just pointing out how this season almost everything written in here about Boldy is negative and almost everything about Rossi is positive. For anyone casually following you’d swear Boldy is a total bum and Rossi is the best player on the team, yet there they are as almost equals on the scoresheet.

Agree I’d be happy to see Rossi stick around long term at those numbers. I’d also be happy to use him to land Elias Pettersson this summer.

JoeMX1825 wrote:

Rossi is a center so I guess has that going for him, but otherwise no idea how he argues for more $$$ than Boldy

Boldy age 20-21: 46g-56a-102p in 128 games
Rossi age 22-23: 39g-47a-86p in 134 games

Biggest difference I see is that Boldy has had exclusive PP1 membership the past 3 seasons, where Rossi has only filled in when injuries dictate it…honestly, looking at those cap projections for the next 3 years, it won’t matter if he’s 7x$7 or 7x$8, either way it’s going to be way under market value in a year or two… Any type of bridge deal is going to cost $10+ in 2 years IF he maintains the level of play he’s had this season…

I suspect Rossi’s argument as it relates to Boldy contact comparisons would be that was then, this is now.

Now:
Rossi 52 GP / 18 G / 27 A
Boldy 52 GP / 18 G / 26 A

Joe is right on. 7 or 8 won’t matter in a couple of years, either way it will seem like a deal.

tswoboda wrote:

With Boldy I totally get it, far from perfect and very inconsistent. Just pointing out how this season almost everything written in here about Boldy is negative and almost everything about Rossi is positive. For anyone casually following you’d swear Boldy is a total bum and Rossi is the best player on the team, yet there they are as almost equals on the scoresheet.

Agree I’d be happy to see Rossi stick around long term at those numbers. I’d also be happy to use him to land Elias Pettersson this summer.

I suspect the Boldy hatefest posts revolve around those bad game stretches? When he’s bad, its glaringly obvious because he touches the puck so often… I also think the frustration lies with everyone knowing what he’s capable of (like his 30 game goal stretch 2 years ago with Jojo) he can be one of the most dominant goal scorers in the league, so when he plays like an AHLer, its hard not post something, especially when Kirill is out and he assumes the Alpha 1 spot on the team…

I don’t think Pettersson gives you $5aav more value/production than what a Rossi at $7aav would…I also have no idea why Vancouver is dangling him at all, the problem is Miller, get rid of him and you’ll get the best version of Pettersson back….

I’m not sure 23 year old Rossi getting outscored by 21 year old Boldy is the argument you think it is. And since you edited to include both their current seasons I will too… Even though contracts aren’t based off 1 season, let’s see where they end the year at – I’ll put my money on Boldy

Also Boldy at age 20/21 most common linemates in order were:
Freddy G
Fiala
Ek
Mojo

Rossi at age 22/23 most common linemates in order:
Zuccy
Kaprizov
Mojo
Boldy

JoeMX1825 wrote:

I don’t think Pettersson gives you $5aav more value/production than what a Rossi at $7aav would…I also have no idea why Vancouver is dangling him at all, the problem is Miller, get rid of him and you’ll get the best version of Pettersson back….

Hard disagree here. Petey at his best is a superstar center

tswoboda wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
I don’t think Pettersson gives you $5aav more value/production than what a Rossi at $7aav would…I also have no idea why Vancouver is dangling him at all, the problem is Miller, get rid of him and you’ll get the best version of Pettersson back….

Hard disagree here. Petey at his best is a superstar center

2 seasons ago yes, his other 6 NHL seasons, he’s a slightly above average 1C…projected to hit a career low in points this season…I do think the Miller drama is weighing on him this year, but it was teaming up with Miller that got him the huge season 2 years ago…

So at his best he’s a superstar center??

tswoboda wrote:

let’s see where they end the year at – I’ll put my money on Boldy

but Boldy gets to play 1:30 of each Powerplay with a likely raging & healthy (fingers crossed) Kirill Kaprizov the last 2 months of the season…that can’t be overlooked when comparing their output…

Like I said, I give Boldy the Cap % advantage because he’s more of a goal scorer and they always get the higher number…I’m sure GMBG will do what’s best

JoeMX1825 wrote:

but Boldy gets to play 1:30 of each Powerplay with a likely raging & healthy (fingers crossed) Kirill Kaprizov the last 2 months of the season…that can’t be overlooked when comparing their output…

Not overlooked but maybe offset by a full season of Rossi getting 12:00 a night of 5v5 with Kaprizov while Boldy gets 12:00 a night with Mojo?

As has already been stated, Rossi is a center. If there’s any team that should be willing to pay or even overpay a little for a center like Rossi, it’s the Wild.

tswoboda wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
but Boldy gets to play 1:30 of each Powerplay with a likely raging & healthy (fingers crossed) Kirill Kaprizov the last 2 months of the season…that can’t be overlooked when comparing their output…

Not overlooked but maybe offset by a full season of Rossi getting 12:00 a night of 5v5 with Kaprizov while Boldy gets 12:00 a night with Mojo?

very true, but now Rossi is playing with Foligno & Hartman for a month+
You’d still prefer the PP time though…either way it’s been fun watching them leapfrog each other every few games…

TheFamousGrouse wrote:

As has already been stated, Rossi is a center. If there’s any team that should be willing to pay or even overpay a little for a center like Rossi, it’s the Wild.

I think we’ve established there’s likely no way we could overpay Rossi if his next deal’s % to Cap is close or even a little more than Boldy’s…it’s just the principle of do you pay him more %? Just like the Avs struggled with and ultimately decided not to with Rantanen over MacKinnon…

I don’t really see any way to avoid it with the cap going up so fast, even Draisaitl at $14aav will raise an eyebrow when Kirill signs for $15+ and McDavid signs for 17+, then god forbid Bedard signs his next deal based on the Chicago fanboy fantasy worship of him…There will always big bigger contracts, players just need to deal with it or sign for shorter terms like Austin Mathews has been doing and catch back up to the max every 3-5 years…

Lol, Brandon Saad leaves the Blues and $5 million to sign with Vegas for $1.5 million… That math only makes sense when its the Vegas Golden Knights…

This is pretty funny!

Seattle Kraken announced Yanni Gouard is out 5-7 weeks after he had surgery to repair a sports hernia today…

See Wild, why is that so hard to do?

SJ just traded granlund and Ceci for a first and third this year. They are going to be really really good in like 4-5 years if they play their cards right and stay healthy.

Also like the move for granlund heading to a playoff team with deep run potential.. just hate that it’s the stars.

Pretty lousy back check by Rossi on the shorty. Usually he hustles on those plays.

Charlie W wrote:

Pretty lousy back check by Rossi on the shorty. Usually he hustles on those plays.

meh, can say the exact same thing about Faber on the 4-4 goal… team is completely asleep tonight…

They are playing like they are at home.