2024/2025 NHL/WILD Offseason-Season-Postseason Thread

  • wormdunker
    Posts: 582
    #2295940

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>tswoboda wrote:</div>
    What’s the issue? That they’re not scoring and getting points?

    They’re not getting scored on, they’re not giving anything up 5v5, they’re playing in the o zone, and they’re the only physical presence on the team.

    They just didn’t do anything for 5 of the 7 games sofar, they were invisible… if they played every game like the Seattle game, nobody would bring their game up as needing to be better…some offense is absolutely required, but I don’t expect much… They are obviously paid more to provide some offense though, you can find guys anywhere who can forecheck for the league minimum…

    Again, its nitpicking an area needing improvement for a team without a regulation loss, but if you had to choose 3 guys on the Wild right now who need to be better than they have been, who would you pick outside of Foligno, Trenin and Freddy? Maybe Ohgren, but he’s a rookie playing 6 minutes a game…

    Marat and Lauko have been much more impactful game after game imo…

    You seem pretty close to it all, you should go ask Hedman, Mac and Lilleberg (ROCKED Numerous Times) if they felt those two had ZERO impact last night. Cernak got abused by Foligno and Trennin as well. All of these guys forced passes that they normally do not attempt, they spent time in the corenre getting pressed trying to fish am move pucks out of the zone. Zone exits against both Florida and TB were positively affected by the heavy shifts of the 3rd line. You concentrate on dollar’s and stats. They open the ice for others, they put doubt and fear into large men’s minds, the next line has freedom because the D dont know who is coming at them from behind. No stat or analytic measures fear and the benefit it has on the ice. I can tell you the locker room knows what they are doing and how it provides space on the ice for them. There is a reason the post game chain says HARD on it and why the guys that have gotten it thus far have gotten it.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17860
    #2295945

    You seem pretty close to it all, you should go ask Hedman, Mac and Lilleberg (ROCKED Numerous Times) if they felt those two had ZERO impact last night. Cernak got abused by Foligno and Trennin as well. All of these guys forced passes that they normally do not attempt, they spent time in the corenre getting pressed trying to fish am move pucks out of the zone. Zone exits against both Florida and TB were positively affected by the heavy shifts of the 3rd line. You concentrate on dollar’s and stats. They open the ice for others, they put doubt and fear into large men’s minds, the next line has freedom because the D dont know who is coming at them from behind. No stat or analytic measures fear and the benefit it has on the ice. I can tell you the locker room knows what they are doing and how it provides space on the ice for them. There is a reason the post game chain says HARD on it and why the guys that have gotten it thus far have gotten it.

    Don? Don Cherry is that you? You must have just finished watching Rockem Sockem Hockey Volume 78… They’ve been noticeable for 2 games (Seattle and Tampa) after that crickets…go read any non-fanboy review of their games or their 7 game season start and the 3rd line is mentioned as mostly a nothingburger sofar, especially Trenin… I wonder how “Hard Necklace” wins gets mentioned during contract negotiations?

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17860
    #2295948

    Anybody else notice Flower thought about shooting for the empty net at the end of the game last night and then quickly realized it was only a 1 goal game at the time…too funny…

    He wants a goal bad before retiring…

    wormdunker
    Posts: 582
    #2295949

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>wormdunker wrote:</div>
    You seem pretty close to it all, you should go ask Hedman, Mac and Lilleberg (ROCKED Numerous Times) if they felt those two had ZERO impact last night. Cernak got abused by Foligno and Trennin as well. All of these guys forced passes that they normally do not attempt, they spent time in the corenre getting pressed trying to fish am move pucks out of the zone. Zone exits against both Florida and TB were positively affected by the heavy shifts of the 3rd line. You concentrate on dollar’s and stats. They open the ice for others, they put doubt and fear into large men’s minds, the next line has freedom because the D dont know who is coming at them from behind. No stat or analytic measures fear and the benefit it has on the ice. I can tell you the locker room knows what they are doing and how it provides space on the ice for them. There is a reason the post game chain says HARD on it and why the guys that have gotten it thus far have gotten it.

    Don? Don Cherry is that you? You must have just finished watching Rockem Sockem Hockey Volume 78… They’ve been noticeable for 2 games (Seattle and Tampa) after that crickets…go read any non-fanboy review of their games or their 7 game season start and the 3rd line is mentioned as mostly a nothingburger sofar, especially Trenin… I wonder how “Hard Necklace” wins gets mentioned during contract negotiations?

    I don’t read any FAN BOY Reviews except yours. I do so because it is humorous but only for a couple posts then its laughable. Go sort your spreadsheet.

    wormdunker
    Posts: 582
    #2295950

    Anybody else notice Flower thought about shooting for the empty net at the end of the game last night and then quickly realized it was only a 1 goal game at the time…too funny…

    He wants a goal bad before retiring…

    As usual NOPE you were the only one. Better add it to column ZZ.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8517
    #2295951

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Ripjiggen wrote:</div>
    He had 12 turnovers going into the game. Yes leads the team but would expect that as he has the puck on his stick more than anyone else.

    2nd Bogo 8
    3rd Faber 7

    He had 73 in 75 games last year.

    what site is that from? I’d like to bookmark it

    You can find every KHL stat and scouting report but can’t find NHL giveaway numbers? Google it – you’ll see the leader board of all these terrible players leading the league (among forwards) in giveaways. Kirill should be embarrassed

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    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22809
    #2295953

    Joe is getting it from multiple barrels LOL

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17860
    #2295957

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
    Anybody else notice Flower thought about shooting for the empty net at the end of the game last night and then quickly realized it was only a 1 goal game at the time…too funny…

    He wants a goal bad before retiring…

    As usual NOPE you were the only one. Better add it to column ZZ.

    You must have been editing game tape looking for more times when Trenin “ROCKED” fools, maybe you can present him your own hand made “HARD” necklace next time you’re in line for autographs at Tria, just don’t push the little kids out the way too hard…

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17860
    #2295959

    You can find every KHL stat and scouting report but can’t find NHL giveaway numbers? Google it – you’ll see the leader board of all these terrible players leading the league (among forwards) in giveaways. Kirill should be embarrassed

    lol, Thank you Mr. Robot…

    wormdunker
    Posts: 582
    #2295967

    Crickets….not sure what the fanboy crap is about but waaaay off track. You must be thinking about your best friends and that time you asked flower to sign your underwear. The back.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17860
    #2295968

    Crickets….not sure what the fanboy crap is about but waaaay off track. You must be thinking about your best friends and that time you asked flower to sign your underwear. The back.

    You should just sit this one out…its ok…

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11592
    #2295970

    what site is that from? I’d like to bookmark it.

    Hockey reference.

    Also this post is giving me a good laugh today so thank you all.

    wormdunker
    Posts: 582
    #2295976

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>wormdunker wrote:</div>
    Crickets….not sure what the fanboy crap is about but waaaay off track. You must be thinking about your best friends and that time you asked flower to sign your underwear. The back.

    You should just sit this one out…its ok…

    Has your keyboard ever ran out of ink? Asking for a friend (the ido community)

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8517
    #2295980

    Also this post is giving me a good laugh today so thank you all.

    Extra spicy start to the season for the great hockey minds of ido toast

    lindyrig79
    Forest Lake / Lake Mille Lacs
    Posts: 5805
    #2296001

    It’s a beaut Clark!! toast

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11646
    #2296039

    Russo recently put out a story on Rossi and his pending contract. He’s convinced the Wild want to do a 2 year bridge deal vs anything long term…the reasoning is they want to see what Yurov looks like as an NHL center next year as they think he has a higher offensive ceiling…They have zero plans to move Marco to wing…but that could be a path for Yurov…

    A bridge deal would be monumentally stupid and it would send the message to Rossi that there is no future here. The only thing a bridge deal would do is provide a bridge to Rossi signing with another team as a free agent.

    Russo seems already convinced that Rossi is the odd center out and that he will be on the trading block. I just don’t get it. We’re always in this fantasy land where the guy we don’t have (Yurov) is the next big thing and even though he’s completely unproven at the NHL level and could take years to develop just as Rossi did, we already need to be rearranging the team and trading players to make room for him.

    Don’t we really want to know if Yurov really works out at the NHL level?

    Since when has having too many good centers ever been a Wild problem that needed to be solved?

    If Russo absolutely needs to be talking about trading a problem center, how about he looks for ways to get rid of Hartman?

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11592
    #2296040

    Agree with everything you said. I don’t hate a bridge deal however as you can not do max term contracts for everyone.

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11646
    #2296042

    Agree with everything you said. I don’t hate a bridge deal however as you can not do max term contracts for everyone.

    How about a 4-year deal then?

    That would be advantageous even if the wild did somehow decide they were going to trade Rossi because he would be more than just a rental to the acquiring team.

    To me it’s silly to spend this much time talking about the wrong problem at center. The problem isn’t what to do with Rossi the problem should be what to do with Hartman.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22809
    #2296043

    Philly has been suffocating on the fire check and gets out of their end easy we have been neither.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22809
    #2296044

    We need a live lookin on Joe right now

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11592
    #2296045

    Philly has been suffocating on the fire check and gets out of their end easy we have been neither.

    They have 6 shot through 2 periods.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11592
    #2296046

    How about a 4-year deal then?

    That would be advantageous even if the wild did somehow decide they were going to trade Rossi because he would be more than just a rental to the acquiring team.

    To me it’s silly to spend this much time talking about the wrong problem at center. The problem isn’t what to do with Rossi the problem should be what to do with Hartman.

    Don’t disagree.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17860
    #2296047

    Just turned the game on, Moose with 2, that’s great!

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22809
    #2296048

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>CaptainMusky wrote:</div>
    Philly has been suffocating on the fire check and gets out of their end easy we have been neither.

    They have 6 shot through 2 periods.

    no disputing that but the wild couldn’t get out of their end in the first if their lives depended on it. The wild also had 3 power plays included a 2 man advantage so there’s that.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17860
    #2296049

    Goaltending battle it appears…

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17860
    #2296050

    Gus’s trade value is now a conditional 7th round pick ;)

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8517
    #2296051

    Rough matinee for Gus, should be a mandatory goalie pull any time Nick Seeeler snipes. Really ugly stuff from Brodin today too

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22809
    #2296053

    The guys battled back but man it was sloppy everywhere. Hard to find silver linings in this one. Kaprizov had 3 assists and foligno scored twice I guess. Hard to some of those goals on Gus but he’d say he’d want them all back.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17420
    #2296059

    Atrocious goal tending on both sides.

    I watched the third period when I got home and it was very entertaining. Gus needs a break I think.

    basseyes
    Posts: 2513
    #2296062

    Rough matinee for Gus, should be a mandatory goalie pull any time Nick Seeeler snipes. Really ugly stuff from Brodin today too

    First game ever cringed multiple times watching Brodin. He’s so consistently good, hard to watch him have a bad game. Unless he was makimg a point to Boldy how special he looks falling down all on his own. It was a good impression of Boldy from Brodin if that’sthe case.

    What a bizarre game. Gus looked slow and tired, the whole team looked waunky. Zuccy trying to fight and Boldy plowing the guy over was kinda indicative of the game, just weird not wild. Even Faber looked human and bumbullie.

    Nice to see moose get a couple. Couple nice tips. A stinker game was coming. Hopefully they can flush that turd of a game down the crapper and forget about it.

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