2024/2025 NHL/WILD Offseason-Season-Postseason Thread

  • tswoboda
    Posts: 9675
    #2330657

    except the thinking with playing Buium is that he’s replacing Jon f’ing Merrill…it’s 10 minutesish of icetime a game, who can impact a game more in those 10 minutes? Merrill or Buium?

    You could argue the #6D’s role is to **not** impact the game. That’s why Faber was so good when he stepped in, and that low-event game doesn’t seem to be in Buium’s DNA.

    I’d argue a better spot for Buium is next to Spurgeon. Give them more sheltered minutes, Spurgeon is already playing like 16 minutes a night and not much PK, and the tough matchups go to Brodin/Faber. Faber is so much better when with Brodin, and every single player paired with Spurgeon over the last 10 years has been better with him. Middleton and Bogo as the muck it up, block shots, kill penalties, and high off the glass breakout bottom pair. Middsy could use some simplifying in his game right now.

    As the clear underdog, I think it’s worth taking the shot to inject some high end talent into a 7 game series. But I’ll understand whatever the coaches decide after seeing him in practice against NHLers this week. That will give the best idea if he’s currently capable of defending Jack Eichel on the rush, battling Tomas Hertl net-front, and avoiding Mark Stone grand larceny through the neutral zone.

    That age difference is a HUGE factor imo. Physically, at still just 19.25 years old, Zeev should continue to fill out his frame and get some man strength

    This to me is the biggest difference from Buium now compared to Makar in 2019, or Faber in 2023.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 20348
    #2330658

    I will be shocked if we win more than one game in the series. The excuses are over after this season, and it will be an interesting summer to see what happens. I expect BG has one more year to show progress or he will be on the hot seat rather quickly. Opening up a spot for our comrade Joe as the new GM.

    It’s worth pointing out that this Wild playoff team is the first in how many playoff teams to actually be healthy for game 1? Yes, the $15 million caphit still sucks as it would be 2 additional top 6 players on the roster that would likely have an impact, but they played the first 30+ games of the season as this team without that $15 million and were the top 1-2 teams in the entire NHL…

    We all can see the holes this roster still has and the prospects coming that can help fill those holes (and whatever unknown trades/UFA acquisitions that will happen) but this team SHOULD be alot harder of an out this post season if they do get bounced…if not, then there’s some justification in worrying if they have the right core of players…

    tswoboda
    Posts: 9675
    #2330661

    They’re fully healthy, no reason for this team not to compete in the playoffs this year. Absolutely zero excuses.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 20348
    #2330663

    Yes, the $15 million caphit still sucks as it would be 2 additional top 6 players on the roster that would likely have an impact, but they played the first 30+ games of the season as this team without that $15 million and were the top 1-2 teams in the entire NHL…

    “Yes, the $15 million caphit still sucks as it would be 2 additional top 6 players on the roster that would likely have an impact, but they played the first 30+ games of the season as this team without that $15 million and were the top 1-2 teams in the entire NHL”

    The caphit (while self inflicted) is a legitimate argument for fans to have, but they’ve proved for a large chunk of the season that they can overcome it…

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 20348
    #2330664

    I went back and watched old Makar UMass highlights…good lord…

    I do see alot of Makar in Buium’s game, but just not at that frantic Makar speed…

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 20348
    #2330665

    They’re fully healthy, no reason for this team not to compete in the playoffs this year. Absolutely zero excuses.

    “Yes, the $15 million caphit still sucks as it would be 2 additional top 6 players on the roster that would likely have an impact, but they played the first 30+ games of the season as this team without that $15 million and were the top 1-2 teams in the entire NHL”

    The caphit (while self inflicted) is a legitimate argument/excuse for fans to have, but they’ve proved for a large chunk of the season that they can overcome it…

    mojogunter
    Posts: 3474
    #2330667

    I don’t think I can stress enough what has been said here many times. The regular season and playoffs are a completely different animal, and to me the wild does not have a long playoff run roster. I will gladly admit if I am wrong. Heck I will even do them a favor by not going to any games, home or away. That may help. grin

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 20348
    #2330676

    You could argue the #6D’s role is to **not** impact the game. That’s why Faber was so good when he stepped in, and that low-event game doesn’t seem to be in Buium’s DNA.

    I’d argue a better spot for Buium is next to Spurgeon. Give them more sheltered minutes, Spurgeon is already playing like 16 minutes a night and not much PK, and the tough matchups go to Brodin/Faber. Faber is so much better when with Brodin, and every single player paired with Spurgeon over the last 10 years has been better with him. Middleton and Bogo as the muck it up, block shots, kill penalties, and high off the glass breakout bottom pair. Middsy could use some simplifying in his game right now.

    lol, first the argument was to not play him in the playoffs unless there’s an injury and now you want to thrust him in the top 4 where he’ll get line matched during road games? I guess he’ll need to learn to swim at some point, throw him in…I agree the 3rd pair shouldn’t impact the game, I meant him playing 3rd pair would mean he then plays the PP where he would likely have an impact…

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 20348
    #2330681

    The regular season and playoffs are a completely different animal, and to me the wild does not have a long playoff run roster.

    but that’s why we acquired Trenin and Brazeau )

    I hear ya, it takes time to find & fit the right pieces/players together and sometimes when you think you have the right players and it turns out you’re wrong, it can take 1-3 years of contract term duration to fix it…

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 25269
    #2330709

    They’re fully healthy, no reason for this team not to compete in the playoffs this year. Absolutely zero excuses.

    They’ll compete. Do I think they will get out of the first round? No.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 9675
    #2330712

    Dammit Musky, who pisssed in your cheerios this morning chased

    tswoboda
    Posts: 9675
    #2330724

    lol, first the argument was to not play him in the playoffs unless there’s an injury and now you want to thrust him in the top 4 where he’ll get line matched during road games? I guess he’ll need to learn to swim at some point, throw him in…I agree the 3rd pair shouldn’t impact the game, I meant him playing 3rd pair would mean he then plays the PP where he would likely have an impact…

    Yeah so instead of thinking I have have all the answers and that I’m smarter than the coaches, I just laid out different trains of thought on how or why to use or not use Buium for these playoffs. And have posted more than once that I have no idea if the will or should play him.

    To be fair, I can fully believe that you don’t comprehend the concept that I don’t have 110% unwavering confidence in my own personal opinions and then present those opinions as facts

    Ice Cap
    Posts: 2299
    #2330737

    Pucks that hit the post that don’t go in for goals become excuses. Happens to every team nearly every game and yes sometimes multiple times. I wonder if that stat is tracked, teams with the most pucks off the posts in a season? We should be saying the Wild would have won 10 to 2 instead of 6 to 2 if all the post pucks would have gone in. So the four off the posts didn’t go in but the one that mattered did. Ek could have been flattened after his first attempt was stopped and he never would have gotten a hack at the second one that went in. Or it could have been swept out of the crease. Or all four post pucks could have gone in. What if’s and maybe’s can go on forever. Not to forget I believe the Ducks had at least one off the post themselves.

    Fact is the Wild came within 20 seconds of losing to a non playoff team on home ice with a full roster including Kaprizov with a lot and maybe even the season on the line. I don’t think that’s an ideal way to enter the playoffs.

    lindyrig79
    Forest Lake / Lake Mille Lacs
    Posts: 6503
    #2330739

    I don’t think that’s an ideal way to enter the playoffs.

    It would have been worse to lose, but still make the playoffs.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 20348
    #2330770

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
    lol, first the argument was to not play him in the playoffs unless there’s an injury and now you want to thrust him in the top 4 where he’ll get line matched during road games? I guess he’ll need to learn to swim at some point, throw him in…I agree the 3rd pair shouldn’t impact the game, I meant him playing 3rd pair would mean he then plays the PP where he would likely have an impact…

    Yeah so instead of thinking I have have all the answers and that I’m smarter than the coaches, I just laid out different trains of thought on how or why to use or not use Buium for these playoffs. And have posted more than once that I have no idea if the will or should play him.

    To be fair, I can fully believe that you don’t comprehend the concept that I don’t have 110% unwavering confidence in my own personal opinions and then present those opinions as facts

    You’ll never get your own blog with that attitude!

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 20348
    #2330771

    Pucks that hit the post that don’t go in for goals become excuses. Happens to every team nearly every game and yes sometimes multiple times. I wonder if that stat is tracked, teams with the most pucks off the posts in a season? We should be saying the Wild would have won 10 to 2 instead of 6 to 2 if all the post pucks would have gone in. So the four off the posts didn’t go in but the one that mattered did. Ek could have been flattened after his first attempt was stopped and he never would have gotten a hack at the second one that went in. Or it could have been swept out of the crease. Or all four post pucks could have gone in. What if’s and maybe’s can go on forever. Not to forget I believe the Ducks had at least one off the post themselves.

    Fact is the Wild came within 20 seconds of losing to a non playoff team on home ice with a full roster including Kaprizov with a lot and maybe even the season on the line. I don’t think that’s an ideal way to enter the playoffs.

    yeah, you’re not wrong, I was just trying to point out that the Wild peppered the Ducks early, scored, pinged 4 posts and then gave up a fluky goal and it looked like the nerves started to kick in…bottom line its over and they are in the playoffs. They’ve been a better road team all year so maybe its better they struggled the back half of the season and didn’t finish in the top 4?

    Starting Friday ALL TEAMS have the same 0-0 record, its what they do moving forward that counts…as others have said, there’s really no excuses, they are completely healthy right now… we’ll see what team shows up on Sunday

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 19260
    #2330772

    KFAN said the Wolves are +160 to beat the Lakers and the Wild are +220 to beat the Knights.

    Just in case you were wondering the odds. hah

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 20348
    #2330778

    Not asking for any major injuries, but it looks like Vegas is playing some of their stars tonight (Eichel & Petrangelo) if they were to aggravate an old injury or strain something that would be great!

    tswoboda
    Posts: 9675
    #2330814

    Looks like the injury hex got put on Dallas instead. Maybe this was the year to see Dallas in the first round?

    Gim those are the definition of “just happy to be here” odds. You did not need to share that!

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 25269
    #2330822

    I slept it off last night and changed my tune. Wild in 7. This will be a repeat of 2003 where there are no expectations and they surprise the world and make it to the conference finals.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 20348
    #2330827

    ** POST YOUR COMPLETED NHL PLAYOFF RESULTS **

    R1:
    Wild over Knights in 6
    Jets over Blues in 5
    Avs over Dallas in 7
    Kings over the Oilers in 7
    Leafs over Sens in 5
    Panthers over Lightning in 7
    Capitals over Canadiens in 5
    Canes over Devils in 5
    R2:
    Wild over the Kings in 7
    Jets over the Avs in 7
    Panthers over Leafs in 6
    Canes over the Capitals in 6
    R3:
    Jets over the Wild in 6
    Panthers over the Canes in 7
    Cup:
    Panthers over the Jets in 6

    (I think the Wild will get rewarded by the hockey gods for surviving their injury plagued season and stay healthy, Kirill and Boldy show up, GusBus gets hot, Buium is an X factor, and we get all the puck luck and survive to the Conf finals)

    Ice Cap
    Posts: 2299
    #2330830

    R1 Wild over Knights in 7
    R2 Kings over Wild in 6 Fiala factor in play here. He has been heating up lately and he rarely if ever misses the score sheet against the Wild. Plus the Wild will have left all their emotion on the ice in Vegas. The air comes out of the balloon at that point.

    KP
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 1527
    #2330835

    R1:
    Wild over Knights in 7
    Jets over Blues in 6
    Avs over Dallas in 5
    Oilers over the Kings in 7
    Leafs over Sens in 5
    Panthers over Lightning in 5
    Capitals over Canadiens in 5
    Canes over Devils in 5
    R2:
    Wild over the Oilers in 7
    Jets over the Avs in 7
    Panthers over Leafs in 6
    Capitals over the Canes in 6
    R3:
    Jets over the Wild in 5
    Panthers over the Capitals in 7
    Cup:
    Jets over the Panthers in 7

    Mine is pretty much the same as Joe’s above but I think the Jets take the cup and end Canadas drought on a team from there winning the cup.

    For the Wild I think they either get beat by Vegas in 5 games or they take them to 7 and win it. Boldy is gonna have to be on for them to beat Vegas. If the Wild lose the first 2 games in Vegas I bet we see Buium’s debut in game 3 at home.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 9675
    #2330837

    As always, full homer for the playoffs. All sorts of upsets too. Let’s go Wild!
    R1
    Blues > Jets
    Avs > Stars
    Wild > Knights
    Oilers > Kings

    Leafs > Sens
    Tampa > Panthers
    Caps > Habs
    Canes > Devils

    R2
    Avs > Blues
    Wild > Oilers

    Tampa > Leafs
    Canes > Caps

    Conf Finals
    Wild > Avs
    Tampa > Canes

    Cup
    WILD > Tampa

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 19260
    #2330844

    An all Canada cup is my prediction. Jets over Leafs.

    Hellebuyck with the Conn Smyth

    tswoboda
    Posts: 9675
    #2330850

    I slept it off last night and changed my tune. Wild in 7. This will be a repeat of 2003 where there are no expectations and they surprise the world and make it to the conference finals.

    He’s back toast

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 25269
    #2330861

    He’s back

    SOrry, I have been in a grumpy mood ever since I got back from ice fishing LOW last weekend. I had nothing but problems and its been lingering over. LOL

    tswoboda
    Posts: 9675
    #2330865

    Oh boy Russo just dropped the lines… Buium-Bogo #3D pair

    Bium running the #1 PP

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